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bad news for whomever claimed the New Apples in Stereo would be good. P4K has a video of their new song here:

Possibly lamest song of the year??

Check it out for yourself, but it is a right stinker. Honestly, it sounds like a bunch of 15 year olds tried ecstasy for the first time and came up with this. It sounds like something I saw on Sesame Street when I was a kid.

Well, it would certainly appeal to 8-year-olds. Maybe they're trying to capitalize on the untapped market between The Biggles and Dance Party Volume Nine. Or maybe Schneider is trying out for that Biggles-guy's job.

If anything, this song sounds more like they're on 'ludes. It sounds like an Apples song, but they're slowed down so they don't sound so much like the Dickies.

It kind of reminds me of those songs about science they had on Bill Nye the Science Guy. This song will soon be played in elementary schools across the country in order to teach the principles of physics!

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It kind of reminds me of those songs about science they had on Bill Nye the Science Guy. This song will soon be played in elementary schools across the country in order to teach the principles of physics!

Will it ever replace They Might Be Giants' "Particle Man"? Doubtful.

I thought they already used They Might Be Giant's "Particle Man" for that. They used TMBG's "Mammal" to teach biology too.

TMBG also beat Sufjan Stevens to the punch by announcing a project, years ago, of 50 songs for 50 states. I'm guessing you could have taught geography from that. I don't think it ever came to be, though.

i didn't realize how big the shins had gotten until i heard their new single three times in a span of an hour at the gym. the station followed the song up with the usual dish of the killers and nickelback. although i'm not a big fan of the latest offering, it was nice to hear a shins song on local radio.

I think that either Wolf Parade or Thee More Shallows really hit it big this year. Krug has already proven to be a more than capable song writer and Thee More Shallows is Death Cab For Cutie, with much more emotion and creativity.

I really hope Thee More Shallows get some more attention. Being signed to Anticon should help them some. I can't wait to hear this new one.

Andy Bird, fair dinkum!

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I really hope Thee More Shallows get some more attention. Being signed to Anticon should help them some. I can't wait to hear this new one.

Anticon is a really good label. And that new Bracken disc is off-the-hook for realz.

I think/hope Modest mOuse will be huge this year...yet one more step closer to greatness,

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Maybe i'm opening up a whole new can of worms here and i'm certain to get some stick but i think think Radiohead are already up there with The Beatles and Dylan if not better.
They're maybe not as influential (yet, only time will tell) but musically i don't think Dylan pushed back boundries as much as Radiohead have. Radiohead have, with just about every album, created music that was incomparably emotive and at the same time sounded like nothing before it. You couldn't say that about all The Beatles output, especially the early "pop" stuff.
Also, OK Computer is a genuine contender for the title of "greatest album ever". Yes, possably greater then anything The Beatles have ever done.

There, i've said it and i'm bent over waiting for my beating............

And here I was thinking that Kid A trumped Ok Computer. If Httt was supposed to be Ok Computer 2 then we are due for a Kid A 2 right?

I will be happy as long as the new album is, a) liquified, disorientating rock that sounds like nothing else and b) projects and maintains a pure, organic dark emotion that I have found no where else.

That aside, when comparing Radiohead to the Beatles it seems important to mention a few things. Like Bob dylan, The beatles pretty much pumped out one album a year plus a few other albums like movie sound tracks. The main part of their career really only spanned 10 or so years, if you finish with Abbey Road. The bends was released in 1995, 12 years later Radiohead are set to release album 7.

Furthermore Beatles musical evolution imo is contained in a few tracks on each album. For example on revolver you have boundary pushing tracks like elenor rigby and love you to, but the other half still contain silly love songs (which are really great songs no doubt). Did the Beatles make concept albums? I feel Radiohead are marked a little harder, they can't simply produce album with 5 forward thinking, experimental tracks and fill the rest up with more polished "The Bends style" tracks. (Perhaps in those days all the tracks on a Beatles album were groundbreaking and I'm missing the context)

Hence on my list I would put Ok Computer and Kid A above any beatles album.

Just going OT a little to adhere to the Radiohead preservation act.

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Maybe i'm opening up a whole new can of worms here and i'm certain to get some stick but i think think Radiohead are already up there with The Beatles and Dylan if not better.
They're maybe not as influential (yet, only time will tell) but musically i don't think Dylan pushed back boundries as much as Radiohead have. Radiohead have, with just about every album, created music that was incomparably emotive and at the same time sounded like nothing before it. You couldn't say that about all The Beatles output, especially the early "pop" stuff.
Also, OK Computer is a genuine contender for the title of "greatest album ever". Yes, possably greater then anything The Beatles have ever done.

I don't think you are far off. One could make a very persuasive argument that Radiohead has already cememted it's status as one of the top ten rock n' roll bands of all time. Obviously, The Beatles and Dylan already belong to this club.

I don't think they'll ever supplant the Beatles...one can make an argument that the Beatles only did their ground breaking on four or five tracks an album...I'd agree with that, but counter that with Radiohead only groundbreaks in one direction per album. The songs of O. K. Computer or Kid A or Amnesiac are for the most part, each of a piece...Compare that to Eleanor Rigby, Tomorrow Never Knows, Love to You on Revolver...those three songs alone opened as many new doors in their day as those three Radiohead albums have in ours.

So better than the Beatles, only on two levels...pure chops and lack of schmaltz. Any other way you slice it, the Beatles have to get a slight but definitive nod.

Dylan is another story. Critics love to write about lyrics, because it's easier than writing about music, and as a lyricists, he's virtually unrivaled (Ray Davies, Chuck Berry, Springsteen, Velvets era Lou Reed the only artist I think who could even realistically challenge) so he'll always get the nod from most in the print profession, and his historical impact on his generation was so strong that you'll get very few old timers to concede...but personally, I think Radiohead is straight up his superior, and it's not that close of a contest...the music, not the words, is ninety percent of the message, and Dylan is quite frankly, a phenomenal songwriter with a just a notch above pedestrian sense of adventure when it comes to arrangements.

In his defense, this is where he comes from, he grew up obsessed with American Folk Artists like Woodie Guthrie, not Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Aphex Twin, and the Velvet Underground, and he still nonetheless managed to pull off several historically critical innovations...including fronting the charge to electrify folk.

But that said, Radiohead still gets the nod...there are more staggeringly exciting musical ideas in just any three or four songs off OK Computer than Dylan has conjurred up in his entire forty year career.

Dylan and Radiohead are too different to be compared. They're both great, but let's not forget that Dylan had an enormous influence on modern music. His best lyrics are amazing, but he gave us more than lyrics. He's written many, many classic songs that will still be covered 100 years from now.

For me, I prefer The Bends over O.K. Computer. Yes, Radiohead is more musically adventurous than Dylan, but you have to remember what the musical landscape was like before Dylan (and The Beatles) emerged. When Like a Rolling Stone hit the radio it sounded unlike anything I'd ever heard. It sounded so radically different back then that at first I didn't like it.

Dylan gets the nod for this old dude, but The Bends is one of the ten records I want with me when my sailboat hits the rocks of a deserted tropical island.

After watching the Grammy's last week, I'd like to know who will be HUGE in 2007, cuz I cannot handle another show like that. I feel that I'm being realistic with my expecations, but assuming Wilco and Radiohead's albums are as good as the live shows promise, then if at least one of them aren't up for best album this year I will be disappointed. Radiohead already has the Grammy seal of approval, while Wilco has slowly built up enough cred to get into the top category. In addition, while I didn't really care who won Best Alternative Album last year, I fully anticipate liking all 5 contenders next year.

As for the current debate, like I mentioned in another thread, Radiohead and the Beatles are the only two bands I've listened too so much that I don't listen to them hardly at all anymore. I guess that means they're my all-time favorites . The only Dylan I listen to now are his 3 latest albums (all gems). Comparing their influence? Woah, that's way over my head!!

Hmm, Radiohead certainly have been a huge influence on modern musicians, and their experimentation in the studio and individually - Thom yorkes debut - The eraser was very interesting. Johnny Greenwood remix some trojan record tracks... Radiohead and the beatles have a lot in common, they both like experimenting and trying out new stuff whilst be very competent musicians.

Dylan wrote the greatest folk songs of the century, and continues to do so, he's not reall y comparable in the same way, but his lyrics and "going electric" have inspired great music with great energy and intelligence.

Bringing the thread back to its original topic - steady on - Mark Anthony-Abel is going to be one to watch over the next year. Many industry insiders have been turning up at his gigs and their seems to be a great buzz around him. He's an exceptional songwriter and singer, and his talent is set grow..

just my two pennies worth...

Re: Modest Mouse

Their new album is like 50 times better than Good News, but I don't think there's a "Float On" mega-single there. But in 20 years, we'll be talking about the Big 3 Modest Mouse albums, and the third will be We Were Dead Before

Husky Rescue

They released the followup to Country Falls this year, earning themselves an interview in Future Music along the way.

Well, there i was expecting a pile of vitriol and abuse for my "Radiohead are greater then the Beatles & Dylan" views. Pleasantly surprised by your constructive and civil posts though! PrairieFire, Illiniq, droid56, inthecompanyofus all make valad points (some i would struggle to argue with!). I'd like to reply to each post but i'd be here all day!

Oh, BTW hate to say i told you so but judging by the critical and commercial success of Neon bible i have to say that i was correct about Arcade Fire.