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m.leland
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Posted 08 January 2007 10:55 AM Hide Post
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Radiohead will be everywhere this year.

i really wouldn't doubt that.

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Originally posted by m.leland:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Radiohead will be everywhere this year.

I think Radiohead's due for a clunker. After the mediocre reception Thom Yorke's solo album got, I think we're in for a U2-style fall from grace. People will like it, but no one will go ga-ga over it.

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Originally posted by ericg75:
I think Radiohead's due for a clunker. After the mediocre reception Thom Yorke's solo album got, I think we're in for a U2-style fall from grace. People will like it, but no one will go ga-ga over it.

I disagree. Have you heard the new songs they've been playing live? I like some of them better than most of Kid A or Ok Computer.

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I think Radiohead's due for a clunker. After the mediocre reception Thom Yorke's solo album got, I think we're in for a U2-style fall from grace. People will like it, but no one will go ga-ga over it.

Gah, I really hope not. But unfortunately I think their last two have shown some general slipping. Admittedly, it's pretty much impossible to not fall off from OK Computer and Kid A. However, sometimes I think Radiohead has simply set the bar too high for themselves to ever reach again. For them to come back with something as monumental as those two albums... well, that would essentially seal a place for them in music history with The Beatles and Dylan I think.

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Originally posted by LinnTate:
Speaking of, I was previewing Modest Mouse's "Dashboard" last week. I don't know if its the presence of Johnny Marr, but it sounds a lot like 1982 to my ears. I expect it will go over well with our audience, but I'm also expecting a big backlash from a lot of traditional fans and general indie-folk screaming "sell-out!"

Oh, they most definitely are. While some people are indeed enjoying the song, I see far more people bemoaning the death of their favorite band because of one single. (These same people hoped, of course, that Good News was just a "phase" for Modest Mouse and they'd soon go back to churning out Lonesome Crowded West-clones.)

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Originally posted by Chamberk:
Oh, they most definitely are. While some people are indeed enjoying the song, I see far more people bemoaning the death of their favorite band because of one single. (These same people hoped, of course, that Good News was just a "phase" for Modest Mouse and they'd soon go back to churning out Lonesome Crowded West-clones.)

People have been bemoaning the death of Modest Mouse since they moved to a major label and started recording their albums in an actual studio. "Dashboard", while not a great MM tune, isn't all that shocking. Frankly, I'd me more shocked if they decided to go all lo-fi again.

God, I hope Radiohead is everywhere this year. They are the best band on the planet. This next album will be mindnumbingly gorgeous, undoubtedly.

This was a completely unbiased statement, by the way ;-)

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Originally posted by ericg75:

I think Radiohead's due for a clunker. After the mediocre reception Thom Yorke's solo album got, I think we're in for a U2-style fall from grace. People will like it, but no one will go ga-ga over it.

That's a bold statement around these parts...

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Originally posted by Il Mago:

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Originally posted by ericg75:

I think Radiohead's due for a clunker. After the mediocre reception Thom Yorke's solo album got, I think we're in for a U2-style fall from grace. People will like it, but no one will go ga-ga over it.

That's a bold statement around these parts...

I like to stir the pot. We can't have unanimous love for Radiohead around here. We need balance. But, you should know, the moment is coming sooner or later. Maybe not this next album, but soon. Radiohead will make a crappy album.

I don't know if anyone will HATE the new Radiohead (unless they're trying to be contrary) but I'm sure they'll get a little backlash regardless of what they do. If they make an OK Computer style record, it won't be experimental enough. If they make an experimental record, it won't be rock enough. Pitchfork will love it beyond words, of course, but I'm sure SOMEONE will find reason to hate it. Maybe Andrew Earles at Magnet.

Personally, I thought Thom's solo record was a dull dud, and I'm not a Hail to the Thief fan, either, so I hope to get a new Radiohead record that really revs me up, but my optimism is guarded.

Perhaps I am young and naive, but I am not as jaded about the critics as most of you are. I expect the new Radiohead album to be judged qualitatively, and not based on some need to maintain the critical status quo of rejecting artists that have long-lived adulation.

Pitchfork has had no signs or tiring of Radiohead, and if anything the new Thom Yorke record points toward the opposite. P4k has generally looked quite unfavorably to "solo project" bands, especially when it comes to some of their favorites - thing about the Travistan fiasco, with the former Dismemberment Plan singer. The Eraser if anything shows that Radiohead IS NOT Thom Yorke, and that the rest of the band is just as contributive as Thom Yorke, with incredibly skilled instrumentation.

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Originally posted by BContrat:
The Eraser if anything shows that Radiohead IS NOT Thom Yorke, and that the rest of the band is just as contributive as Thom Yorke, with incredibly skilled instrumentation.

I agree with that statement. I think Johnny Greenwood is the genius in that band. Yorke is just a Morrissey to his Johnny Marr.

Oh yeah!! I know you've seen this.

But let's give each and every genius their due. There aren't really that many, so when they can team up, .

Ok, here goes, let the backlash begin:

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Originally posted by ericg75:
I think Radiohead's due for a clunker. After the mediocre reception Thom Yorke's solo album got, I think we're in for a U2-style fall from grace. People will like it, but no one will go ga-ga over it.

I don't know, all of their stuff is actually pretty good, far better than anything The Hold Steady have ever done.

But I wouldn't go as far as saying the following statement:

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Originally posted by joji:
Have you heard the new songs they've been playing live? I like some of them better than most of Kid A or Ok Computer.

Don't forget that one is the best album of the ‘90s and the other is the best of the ‘00s. And also the fact that most of the stuff they do live—before recording it—will sound much different, to the point of dissimilarity, once it is done.

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Originally posted by less_success:
For them to come back with something as monumental as those two albums... well, that would essentially seal a place for them in music history with The Beatles and Dylan I think.

Very good point. They have already made at least three masterpieces and after a string of consistently good albums if they were to make another masterpiece, at this point in their careers, they would unquestionably be up there with the great giants.

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Originally posted by in limbo:
God, I hope Radiohead is everywhere this year. They are the best band on the planet.

Very, very true.

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Originally posted by ericg75:
I like to stir the pot. We can't have unanimous love for Radiohead around here. We need balance. But, you should know, the moment is coming sooner or later. Maybe not this next album, but soon. Radiohead will make a crappy album.

Yes, stirring the pot is nice. It would be no fun if everyone loved Radiohead around here. I hate to agree with you on this, so I won't, but I seriously hope that they never make something that is anything less than good. I know you may think they already have but I sure hope they don't and haven’t.

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Originally posted by ericg75:

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Originally posted by BContrat:
The Eraser if anything shows that Radiohead IS NOT Thom Yorke, and that the rest of the band is just as contributive as Thom Yorke, with incredibly skilled instrumentation.

I agree with that statement. I think Johnny Greenwood is the genius in that band. Yorke is just a Morrissey to his Johnny Marr.

Although I agree with BC in that Radiohead is a true band where everyone is important, i don't agree with you eric in that Johnny Greenwood is the lone genius. They are all musically capable and, I will just say it, are all geniuses. Thom Yorke always states that he will write most of the music, record it with just vocals and piano, send copies to each of the band mates and then when they begin recording they each give their input and change up the music. Who knows how different "Paranoid Android," "2+2=5," "Optimistic" or anything else really sounded before they recorded it.

Hey, Kid A, you sound like your taking your and my bro Eric to task, while all he was doin' was offering an alternative way for all the "alternative critics" to fall in line like little dominoes. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to like the new album (I like all of 'em), but you see, that's why MC is ahead of the hipness curve. We discuss things the others are too afraid to touch because they're afraid it might tip their hand.

Well Mark, I didn't mean any bad in my post towards eric or anyone else. He knows he is my bro , and I was just messing with him. What part in what I said were you referring to where I was "taking him to task?"

Well, it's not really a big deal because everything so far is smooth and friendly. It's just that he's "stirring the pot." It doesn't mean anything until others stir the pot, and you already KNOW that others have dissed Amnesiac and Hail to the Thief, so it's not like THAT'S news. Just remember that occasionally a few deep breaths and a glance away works better than responding to EVERY POST. Then again, you might want to get in first about everything you believe will become important. That's fine. Just put everything in perspective; that's all. Plus we have some sarcastics around here, including me, so remember to have a sense of humor, even if you don't like sarcasm. This place may teach y'all to love it.

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Plus we have some sarcastics around here, including me, so remember to have a sense of humor, even if you don't like sarcasm. This place may teach y'all to love it

I actually have trouble in every day conversation getting people to understand that I'm just kidding around. Even some of my friends can't tell from time to time. I try to be as sincere as possible in written exchanges, because it can be so easily misunderstood. Of course, it's not a stretch that a bunch of halfwits like you guys would miss a good joke

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Originally posted by FragileKidA:

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Originally posted by ericg75:
I like to stir the pot. We can't have unanimous love for Radiohead around here. We need balance. But, you should know, the moment is coming sooner or later. Maybe not this next album, but soon. Radiohead will make a crappy album.

Yes, stirring the pot is nice. It would be no fun if everyone loved Radiohead around here. I hate to agree with you on this, so I won't, but I seriously hope that they never make something that is anything less than good. I know you may think they already have but I sure hope they don't and haven’t.

Don't get me wrong, I like Radiohead. OK Computer is among my all time favorite albums, and the others aren't anything to scoff at. I just get the feeling their best days might be behind them. They may turn in another good album, or even two, but I'm just saying the day is coming when they're going to make something lousy (besides Pablo Honey). It's okay though. It happens to every band. Even Bob Dylan relased some stinkers. There was a time that I never thought R.E.M. would make a bad album.

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Originally posted by FragileKidA:
Well Mark, I didn't mean any bad in my post towards eric or anyone else. He knows he is my bro , and I was just messing with him. What part in what I said were you referring to where I was "taking him to task?"

No offense taken. I'll be civil until you start calling me "a random nobody toiling away in obscurity"