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Even though I've warmed to it, I still simply cannot understand how anybody could put Neon Bible in a top 10 for 2007. I'd say it was over-hyped.
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quote: Originally posted by stereo: And...(don't kill me) In Rainbows. I mean, really, a 90? It's certainly not a bad album, but is it really only one step behind Funeral? I'd think a lot of people around here might agree that Funeral is considerably better, but maybe not.
Yeah, 'funeral' is much better, imo. I doubt too many people would disagree with that. I think that the indie community, critics and all, have heaped so much praise onto 'in rainbows' because radiohead are the darlings of "indie" music. There's no doubt in my mind, that critics lavished just a tad bit too much love onto 'IR'. But they'll be seen as justified in doing so because, well, after all, it's radiohead. And 'ir' is good, so indie fanboys and critics just ran with it and lifted up so high. But there's no way that the album can keep up with all the rabid infatuation it gets. Eventually, it will come back down to earth.
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quote: Originally posted by Haunted Goathouse: Even though I've warmed to it, I still simply cannot understand how anybody could put Neon Bible in a top 10 for 2007. I'd say it was over-hyped.
It's probably top 5 for me. I'd say there's only one real glaring misstep on the album ("No Cars Go") and "Keep The Car Running" and "Intervention" are two of my favorite tracks released this year. The album also flows really well.
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| Posts: 5369 | Location: Michigan | Registered: 19 June 2005 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by hudson: quote: Originally posted by stereo: And...(don't kill me) In Rainbows. I mean, really, a 90? It's certainly not a bad album, but is it really only one step behind Funeral? I'd think a lot of people around here might agree that Funeral is considerably better, but maybe not.
Yeah, 'funeral' is much better, imo. I doubt too many people would disagree with that. I think that the indie community, critics and all, have heaped so much praise onto 'in rainbows' because radiohead are the darlings of "indie" music. There's no doubt in my mind, that critics lavished just a tad bit too much love onto 'IR'. But they'll be seen as justified in doing so because, well, after all, it's radiohead. And 'ir' is good, so indie fanboys and critics just ran with it and lifted up so high. But there's no way that the album can keep up with all the rabid infatuation it gets. Eventually, it will come back down to earth.
I agree entirely. If it was any other band, I don't think people would care that much. I also think it got a higher score because of the way it was released, but I don't know that. And Neon Bible is my #3. The only song I don't like is "My Body Is A Cage" and the rest of the album is fantastic. I actually think it's underhyped...
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| Posts: 256 | Location: Iowa City | Registered: 15 June 2006 |    |
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I bought 'neon bible' when it first came out. But I really didn't give a chance. 'funeral' was so wonderful that I didn't want to take the chance of getting let down by the band. So I listened to 'neon bible' once and shelved it. Hearing all the great feedback, i'll have to start listening to it again.
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quote: Originally posted by stereo: I'd think a lot of people around here might agree that Funeral is considerably better, but maybe not.
Nah, no way. quote: Originally posted by hudson: Yeah, 'funeral' is much better, imo. I doubt too many people would disagree with that.
I think a lot would, I do. Also, I find Arcade Fire’s Neon Bible to be a really great album. It’s sequenced well and every single song is great, even the dramatic “No Cars Go.”
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| Posts: 5907 | Location: Texas | Registered: 27 December 2005 |    |
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quote: stereo Know-It-All Posted 01 November 2007 06:13 PM Hide Post quote: Originally posted by hudson: quote: Originally posted by stereo: And...(don't kill me) In Rainbows. I mean, really, a 90? It's certainly not a bad album, but is it really only one step behind Funeral? I'd think a lot of people around here might agree that Funeral is considerably better, but maybe not.
Yeah, 'funeral' is much better, imo. I doubt too many people would disagree with that. I think that the indie community, critics and all, have heaped so much praise onto 'in rainbows' because radiohead are the darlings of "indie" music. There's no doubt in my mind, that critics lavished just a tad bit too much love onto 'IR'. But they'll be seen as justified in doing so because, well, after all, it's radiohead.
And 'ir' is good, so indie fanboys and critics just ran with it and lifted up so high. But there's no way that the album can keep up with all the rabid infatuation it gets. Eventually, it will come back down to earth.
I agree entirely. If it was any other band, I don't think people would care that much. I also think it got a higher score because of the way it was released, but I don't know that.
A few weeks ago, after one or two listens, I would have been right there with you and think I actually posted something along similar lines in that span... but after several more listens, completely disagree, if anything, the album is underpraised...It's not a blockbuster songs after blockbuster song type album...it's a Rubber Soul, a Forever Changes, or in more contemporary terms Boxer type experience and album with great songs that still manages to be even greater than the sum of its parts. I now stand behind it as the second best album in Radiohead's career, trumped only by Computer, and it has eclipsed Hissing Fauna as my #1 for 2007...and I don't give a s*** about how it was released...my opinion is based entirely upon the music.
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quote: Originally posted by Haunted Goathouse: Even though I've warmed to it, I still simply cannot understand how anybody could put Neon Bible in a top 10 for 2007. I'd say it was over-hyped.
I concur.
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| Posts: 2815 | Location: Drug induced coma. | Registered: 01 December 2006 |    |
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Neon Bible may have been overhyped when it came out (lord knows I was doing it) but I'm pretty sure now that everyone's forgotten about it except the people who appreciate how good it is it is no longer over-hyped. Funeral was better, though. 
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| Posts: 2262 | Location: ATL-abouts. | Registered: 24 October 2006 |    |
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Looking at the Best of 2007 Metacritic scores, critics like these a WHOLE lot more than I do: *** The Field - From Here We Go Sublime (90): It's OK, but too repetitive and dull to my ears. Nowhere near the best of the year IMO. 3 listens and I was done. (But electronica is not my genre either...) *** Arcade Fire - Neon Bible (87): Pretty good, with several very strong songs, but a bit inconsistent. 70-75 in my book, maybe enough to just crack my top 25, but not the cream of this year's crop. *** Panda Bear - Person Pitch (86): I'm not the Animal Collective fan that many people are and this solo effort is just boring, goofy wallpaper. *** Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam (78): As always, Pitchfork wants to blow these geeks, but I could care less. With the exception of a few really good songs (like "Banshee Beat" from "Feels" and "Who Could Win a Rabbit" from "Sung Tongs"), I have never heard what so many others hear in these dorks who are just too cutesy for their own good.
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quote: Originally posted by stereo: [QUOTE]Originally posted by hudson: [QUOTE]Originally posted by stereo: And...(don't kill me) In Rainbows. I mean, really, a 90?
When I first heard In Rainbows, I was very unimpressed and disappointed. But it's been a real grower since the 2nd or 3rd listen. It might make my top 10 or 20 before all is said and done, but a 90 is over rating it quite a bit, methinks. 90 for "OK Computer," maybe even "Kid A" and "The Bends" but not this one, as good as it is sounding.
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quote: Originally posted by JGlass: quote: Originally posted by Haunted Goathouse: Even though I've warmed to it, I still simply cannot understand how anybody could put Neon Bible in a top 10 for 2007. I'd say it was over-hyped.
I concur.
Ditto.
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OK, listening to The Field From Here We Go Sublime again just to see if I'm missing something. I'm not. I actively hate it. If this is a 90 so are my morning bathroom noises.
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quote: Originally posted by outis: OK, listening to The Field From Here We Go Sublime again just to see if I'm missing something. I'm not. I actively hate it. If this is a 90 so are my morning bathroom noises.
lol. Yeah. I really tried to understand why this album received such praise. That was part of my problem. I was trying to hard to understand the album instead of just playing it and letting it be. I like it better that way. It's actually a decent album. Kanye's Graduation is overhyped, big time.
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| Posts: 3776 | Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha | Registered: 18 October 2004 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by outis: quote: Originally posted by stereo: [QUOTE]Originally posted by hudson: [QUOTE]Originally posted by stereo: And...(don't kill me) In Rainbows. I mean, really, a 90?
When I first heard In Rainbows, I was very unimpressed and disappointed. But it's been a real grower since the 2nd or 3rd listen. It might make my top 10 or 20 before all is said and done, but a 90 is over rating it quite a bit, methinks. 90 for "OK Computer," maybe even "Kid A" and "The Bends" but not this one, as good as it is sounding.
Yeah I had in rainbows at an uncertain number 1, but after about 35 listens it really clicked. It takes a while for the overall emotion to envelope every track. For me it goes ok computer/ kid a > In rainbows/ the bends/ amnesiac > hail to the thief > pablo honey. Now I know nothing else will touch it this year. I would say this time it is neither over or under hyped, it's just right. As to whether I would choose out of funeral or in rainbows, that's a tough one.
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| Posts: 261 | Location: Sydney, Australia | Registered: 07 September 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by outis: Looking at the Best of 2007 Metacritic scores, critics like these a WHOLE lot more than I do: *** The Field - From Here We Go Sublime (90): It's OK, but too repetitive and dull to my ears. Nowhere near the best of the year IMO. 3 listens and I was done. (But electronica is not my genre either...) *** Arcade Fire - Neon Bible (87): Pretty good, with several very strong songs, but a bit inconsistent. 70-75 in my book, maybe enough to just crack my top 25, but not the cream of this year's crop. *** Panda Bear - Person Pitch (86): I'm not the Animal Collective fan that many people are and this solo effort is just boring, goofy wallpaper. *** Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam (78): As always, Pitchfork wants to blow these geeks, but I could care less. With the exception of a few really good songs (like "Banshee Beat" from "Feels" and "Who Could Win a Rabbit" from "Sung Tongs"), I have never heard what so many others hear in these dorks who are just too cutesy for their own good.
I actually love all of those... I'll agree that The Field's rating is rather high, though. I really like it, I think it's the best electronic album this year, but I think a 85 would be more appropriate. The Arcade Fire deserves that 87, I'll stand by that album. I still listen to it pretty regularly...especially the title track and "Intervention". And I just love Animal Collective, both of those are extremely enjoyable to me. I like Strawberry Jam more than Person Pitch, however. I'd like to see their scores switch. But they're both great. Albums I think are overrated: In Rainbows: already discussed enough Sound of Silver: I just can't get into it. I love "Someone Great" and "Get Innocuous!" is good, but I don't love it. I am apparently missing out. Fort Nightly: Good but not that good. There are good songs on it, but as an album, I didn't think it was all that exciting. Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga: Pretty much same as the last two...I've never understood why people love Spoon so much.
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| Posts: 256 | Location: Iowa City | Registered: 15 June 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by outis: quote: Originally posted by JGlass: quote: Originally posted by Haunted Goathouse: Even though I've warmed to it, I still simply cannot understand how anybody could put Neon Bible in a top 10 for 2007. I'd say it was over-hyped.
I concur.
Ditto.
Double ditto. As for In Rainbows being overhyped? I only know that it is much better than HTTT
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| Posts: 626 | Location: kentucky | Registered: 02 October 2007 |    |
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