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Originally posted by Jglass:
I must say that the "indie scene" never receives enough hype.

Explain yourself please. I see mountains of hype for Animal Collective, The Shins, Modest Mouse and other kinda "mainstream indie" acts. Are you using a truer definition of indie?

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Originally posted by Dork:

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Originally posted by Jglass:
I must say that the "indie scene" never receives enough hype.

Explain yourself please. I see mountains of hype for Animal Collective, The Shins, Modest Mouse and other kinda "mainstream indie" acts. Are you using a truer definition of indie?

Well, both.. true indie bands really don't get much hype outside of their scene and the hip.

But also, general "indie" still doesn't get as much hype as deserved. I'd say the Shins and Modest Mouse have probably gotten their due, but AC? I've never really thought of them as "kinda mainstream".

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Originally posted by Jglass:
Well, both.. true indie bands really don't get much hype outside of their scene and the hip.

But also, general "indie" still doesn't get as much hype as deserved. I'd say the Shins and Modest Mouse have probably gotten their due, but AC? I've never really thought of them as "kinda mainstream".

True indie bands obviously don't get the hype they deserve, or they'd be "mainstream" indie. Catch-22.

I see massive amounts of hype for Animal Collective on the sites I visit. *shrugs* That's all I can go by.

See Dork, this is where you fall off. Regardless of sales or how much something is talked about online, you have to admit that a lot of stuff is only popular online. A lot of the sales are through amazon or the bands website and all the hype is via the "Internets." Even though I doubt there is anybody here who isn't familiar with Arcade Fire, I'm usually hardpressed to find a single person in 'real life' to talk to about them.

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Originally posted by Mike:
See Dork, this is where you fall off. Regardless of sales or how much something is talked about online, you have to admit that a lot of stuff is only popular online. A lot of the sales are through amazon or the bands website and all the hype is via the "Internets." Even though I doubt there is anybody here who isn't familiar with Arcade Fire, I'm usually hardpressed to find a single person in 'real life' to talk to about them.

So? I don't even know that many people in "real life" who could tell me who Radiohead is.

That's the point.

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Originally posted by Mike:
That's the point.

You would argue that Radiohead is not popular? They just broke records for download sales.

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Originally posted by Dork:

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Originally posted by Mike:
That's the point.

You would argue that Radiohead is not popular? They just broke records for download sales.

Yeah on the internet! I know a lot of people that have no idea Radiohead released anything this year!

I don't think Radiohead is that popular among non-music geeks. I don't think the average Joe is aware that they had any success after "Creep".

Seriously. Maybe it's where I live, but it seems like most people's idea of a hot indie band is the Plain White T's.

where i live if you say indie they think you are talking about race cars.

Why would you look for music hype outside circles where music is discussed? I am puzzled. It's like going into a gym looking for a game of Magic: The Gathering.

I'd say many more average Joes and Janes have at least heard of Radiohead than Arcade Fire. But the fact remains that many of the people who've heard of these bands, and even some who might own a CD of their's, don't know them intimately, or know much of any context surrounding their careers. Radiohead is well known, but so are the Rolling Stones and I really only know a few Stones songs well, and don't know all that much of their history. Having heard of a band (even numerous times) or having heard a few of their songs at a few disparate points in life, does not make someone anywhere close to knowledgeable.

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Originally posted by Dork:
Why would you look for music hype outside circles where music is discussed? I am puzzled. It's like going into a gym looking for a game of Magic: The Gathering.

For a while there people did play that game at the gym. It was everywhere for a spell there.

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Originally posted by goathouse:

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Originally posted by Dork:
Why would you look for music hype outside circles where music is discussed? I am puzzled. It's like going into a gym looking for a game of Magic: The Gathering.

For a while there people did play that game at the gym. It was everywhere for a spell there.

Wait, I was under the impression that people who used to (or do currently) play Magic: The Gathering never left their parents' basement.

For me it was like Green Eggs & Ham except with Magic.

I totally agree with the Sound of Silver feelings. There were the definite hits (North American Scum, Someone Great, All My Friends, Watch the Tapes) and the rest were ass. For me, The National's Boxer totally kicked my ass. Battles' Mirrored was pretty good imo, as was Caribou's Andorra. New Young Pony Club really got the under appreciated hammer, I loved their record.

The biggest disappointments were definitely Art Brut, Bloc Party and Interpol. I didn't mind Arcade Fire's latest, I just didn't think it flowed well, with the exception of Black Waves/Bad Vibrations and Ocean of Noise where they HAD to flow (lol).

Btw, In Rainbows kicks ass.

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Originally posted by mymindsblank:
where i live if you say indie they think you are talking about race cars.

This is true here as well. No one knows Radiohead here either. In fact, a few weeks back I was at somebody's house playing this game with 7 other 20-somethings. It was one of those games where you had to somehow get the other members of your team to guess what is on some card. Anyways, the other team threw out the card that said Radiohead because they figured it was impossibly hard. Because, you know, who the hell are Radiohead.

I think that was my point. Although Radiohead may have had so many downloads in the first day, that is among people who are 'in the know' as far as music. Anyone who just listens to whatever MTV or BET or CMT or FUSE tells them is good, probably doesn't even have the slightest clue who Radiohead is. Someone should start a thread about this.

I have to agree. Here are some totally overhyped:

1)Animal Collective: These guys border on being noise. Don't get it at all.

2)Arcade Fire: Lord knows I've tried, but I just don't enjoy them in the least. They seem to just be wasting my time every time a track goes on.

3)Panda Bear: "Take Pills" may be the least sensical song of the year.

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Originally posted by RavingLunatic:
No one knows Radiohead here either. In fact, a few weeks back I was at somebody's house playing this game with 7 other 20-somethings. It was one of those games where you had to somehow get the other members of your team to guess what is on some card. Anyways, the other team threw out the card that said Radiohead because they figured it was impossibly hard. Because, you know, who the hell are Radiohead.

That's awesome.

I was playing a similar game with some friends, one of which was this older guy. And he had the word "Monitor", and rather than just pointing to the computer monitor across the room he started talking about the first Ironclad that fought the Meramec in the Civil war. No one had any idea what he was talking about. Coincidentally I had just been listening to Bishop Allen in the car before I drove up. Specifically the song "The Monitor".

Sometimes Indie rock can make you look like a genius.