C'mon everybody has some rappers that hey dont like or even hate but they seem to be popular for some reason?Lets hear about them?I will start it out!

Blueprint...would anyone really buy the soul postion album if it wasnot produced by RJD2?

Maybe i am wrong but i hate his delivery and his content?I saw him in the freestyle battle a couple years back at scribble jam?He sucked ass!

I really wanted to like him...but i would rather hear the soul position album in instrumental version?

he has had a few solo solo albums.

And his greenhouse effect thing...which was dull!

Anyways lets hear some more?I would love to hear why you dislike any rapper?Indie or mainstream?

Deltron? Cannibal Ox? Dr Octogon? Aesop Rock?

Del is really hit or miss and all the hippies here at Wesleyan love him... I just get sick after two songs of the same sh*t. I only like "3030" and it's 2'' too long. I'm not just picking stuff off your list to piss you off, either. Aesop rock etc... has interesting flow but I saw them live. I get sick of unfocused verbal diarhhea, it seems like they rap just to fill space and have nothing to actually say. I enjoy doc oc but it scares me, all that hospital shit is a little too weird.

J5 is definitely overrated, along with 50 cent, lloyd Banks and Pharcyde (the first album is amazing, but Plain Rap Plain Sucks)

definitely the beatnuts

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Originally posted by Hattoori_Hanzo:
Deltron? Cannibal Ox? Dr Octogon? Aesop Rock?

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Does that mean u think these artists are overrated?

I agree with your other choices...but can ox over rated?Doc Oc...man...that is a great album...a classic even.Both cold vein and octaganolygist...or however you spell that title are in my favortites of all time.

Your other choices are good though...j5...and all them g unit guys are weak...and make me sick to mystomach when i hear them.

I think Blueprint's guest spot on Deadringer was honestly great. A lot of times I've criticized rappers for not having enough personality. Blueprint at his best is textbook rapper personality. Actually, a little too textbook. I think he does deserve some respect for his Soul Position work. The album was neither "equal to more of the sum of its parts" or less. It's just two skilled performers pulling off a hip hop album well. I wasn't excited about the album, but I liked it.

I totally agree with the Hanzo about Del, J5, and 50 Cent. Except, is 50 Cent respected outside of the MTV world?

J5, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, and the Roots make up most of the Boring Hip Hop subgenre. It encompasses Conscious Hip Hop, Political Hip Hop, Positive Hip Hop, and Intelligent Hip Hop. It's as entertaining as hearing a lecture over a crummy beat.

Also, I'd like to add Slug and Sage Francis.

It turns my stomach to think that if the underground hip hop movement has an artist designated as its "key artist" in the history books, it will be Slug. I never really thought of Slug as a charismatic, innovative, or even particularly tight rapper. I think his rising popularity isn't so bad, since he's better than any rapper on MTV not named... Actually, I don't particularly like any of the rappers on MTV, although I do like some of the producers.

Now, Dose One and Sage Francis are both "poetry rappers". I like Dose One but I don't care for Sage Francis. I don't like Sage's pretensiousness, but Dose is ten times as pretensious as Sage. I almost was going to say that I don't like pretensiousness period, but it's more correct to say that I don't like Sage's pretensiousness. It's even more correct to say that I want to be entertained rather than recited to.

Maybe on Dose's home planet they consider Dose to be pretensious and Sage to be the mad visionary.

ok..i dont know how to use these qute things very well...but here goes?

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I think Blueprint's guest spot on Deadringer was honestly great. A lot of times I've criticized rappers for not having enough personality. Blueprint at his best is textbook rapper personality

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I totally agree...i just dont find anything exciting about him...he is a decent regular rapper.He is not very important becasue he raps about alot of the same things.Checkout his blueprint presents album...i dont know...i guess i would rather see a collabo between rj and...anyone esle next time.Not a bad album though...just normal.

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Now, Dose One and Sage Francis are both "poetry rappers". I like Dose One but I don't care for Sage Francis. I don't like Sage's pretensiousness, but Dose is ten times as pretensious as Sage. I almost was going to say that I don't like pretensiousness period but it's more correct to say that I don't like _Sage's_ pretensiousness.

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Have u listened to the non-prophets album...i am sure you have.But i think it is one of his less outlandish lyrical albums.But still gret in its own terms.I think sage is like the dennis millerof rap...kid of confusing but maily just wants people to think he is smart and intelligent?Which i think he is...and i love him as an arist.I think he will be looked back at in the future as an importnat voice an the independant rap "movement"

I didnt quote it...but i dont think slug will be that popular in the greater future.He is way too emo for me...and he is whimpy about it.Like sage i would consider very emotional rapper...but he is so aggresive about it!I really hope that in 20 years buck 65 will be reaping the benefits of a long and rewarding career.He is easily my favorite rapper....and i cant wait to see what he pulls out next...maybe a traditional hip-hop throwback album...whoknows?

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Originally posted by Buck "Sweetie" McGuck:
Talib Kweli, Mos Def, and the Roots make up most of the Boring Hip Hop subgenre. It encompasses Conscious Hip Hop, Political Hip Hop, Positive Hip Hop, and Intelligent Hip Hop. It's as entertaining as hearing a lecture over a crummy beat.

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The roots' Phrenology is excellent, as is BlackStar... however I understand u might get sick of the socio-political stuff (it worked for Public Enemy and KRS-One), I still think the beats on those albums are excellently produced. I never get sick of either album and at least they have something to say.

I'm gonna have to put my vote under Jay Z!!!

Maybe 100 times in the Black Album he says he's the best rapper there is and I just don't think he's the best but he isn't bad though!!!

Also I don't like Nelly!! He's pretty anoying!!

Nelly, DMX, Ja Rule, silk the shokker, suck fat ones

nelly is a joke...

what about master p...and his little son romeo...what a boring tandem.

I have never been impressed with any thing the down south movement has put out...it is fun and good to dance to...but who is really going to buy it?

A 4 bar loop and some wack verses about fat asses and weed doesnt make it good.

What about all that chopped up stuff...and screwed up...how weak is that...if i want something to listen to while getting high on cough syrup i tsurely wont be some record slowed down to some insane tempo.It made me sleepy the one time i was forced to hear it before.

In my opinion, its dizzee rascal. Why the hype? I bought the album, and it certainly wasn't 9/10 good. Original maybe, but not good to lisen to. I can't help but laugh at the accent tho :P.

laugh at the accent??

i am sure your accent being from sydney i so cool?

Dizzee's album is genius and will be a classic for years to come.There is a reason it gets critical acclaim for everyone..and wins mercury prizes...it is good.

Have a great day!

It is all the critical acclaim and mercury prizes that have me surprised!
Why is it so good?
The lyrical flow isn't brilliant, and the beats are too disjointed for my tastes. I must admit though; it is a breath of fresh air.

I dunno Imprezu, that Lil' Flip album isn't so bad... I really like that song "game over"

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Originally posted by Hattoori_Hanzo:
I dunno Imprezu, that Lil' Flip album isn't so bad... I really like that song "game over"

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I used to like lil flip the self titled "freestyle king" when he put out leprauchon his first album wich is kind of hard to find originals anymore.

I really dont hate the down south...i have a few solid records in my collection ie.scarface,eightball and ugk...i even liked some of that 3-6 mafia in the beggining when the dirty south sound was really coming up.

One album that was put out on rap-a-lot wich is prodiminately putting out the dirty south sound...was
devin the dude-just tryin to live....but i really would not consider that music like the no-limits and the lil johns would put out.It had production by both dr.dre and dj premier not alot of people could boast that kind of talent on production these days.

doobie ashtray is one of the best get high songs ever...it puts you in a very very nice mood!LoL!!

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Originally posted by Imprezu21:
nelly is a joke...

what about master p...and his little son romeo...what a boring tandem.

I have never been impressed with any thing the down south movement has put out...it is fun and good to dance to...but who is really going to buy it?

A 4 bar loop and some wack verses about fat asses and weed doesnt make it good.

What about all that chopped up stuff...and screwed up...how weak is that...if i want something to listen to while getting high on cough syrup i tsurely wont be some record slowed down to some insane tempo.It made me sleepy the one time i was forced to hear it before.

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If I may direct your attention to David Banner's "Mississippi" album. Also, Bubba Sparxxx's "Deliverence". Each of these are superb Dirty South releases.

This thread must be over my head. I thought that OutKast were Kings of the Dirty South.

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If I may direct your attention to David Banner's "Mississippi" album. Also, Bubba Sparxxx's "Deliverence". Each of these are superb Dirty South releases.

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I liked david banner when he was a partof crooked lettaz alot more than i do as a solo artist.He is ok.

Would we even be hearing about or listening to bubba sparx if it wasnt for timbaland...not that timbaland is some super genious producer...at times i find his production style tired and over used...and of course at other times it is great.I actually think he is overated as a producer he is not in the same leagus as many of the other "super" producers...i amy be starting a new topic here.


I am much more a fan of dirty south rap from like 96'/97'-99'/00' at the latest...all this newer stuff really really sucks a big fat one.Extremely redundant drums and they are even starting to reach on samples/synths...anyways...wnough ranting for today!

Good evening.

i just mentioned this in another thread, but aesop rock is pretty overrated.

and dizzee is awesome.

Aesop Rock overrated? I wasn't bowled over with Bazooka Tooth at all (poor production value, lyrics got a little too stoned-out, even for this MF Doom fan), but have you listened to Labor Days? That album is incredible!

exactly...i think aesop need to leave the production to the experts...maybe get back with blockhead.

But he is sure not overrated...


dizzee is the truth...i got halfthe tracks from his new album...sick