I personally like Mezzanine a lot more than Blue Lines. But a lot of that is because of Teardrop. I have Mezzanine at #43 on my list and Blue Lines not quite in the top 100. It's probably a bit too high, but eh.
The Understanding doesn't compare to Blue Lines or Mezzanine in terms of overall quality, but it does in the direction of the band's development.
One second listen I didn't like Wilderness as much, but I'm definetely picking up the Wolf Parade EP, assuming the stores I go to carry it (Which you can never be sure of with EPs).
I have seen 1-10 and 50-100 in SPIN's top 100 of the last 20 years. (That's what's already available on the website). It seems like a reasonably decent list. With any list anyone makes you're always going to find something you disagree with. But SPIN's list is more on the ball than I expected, all things considered. There aren't too many glaring ommissions, and only a few questionable inclusions. At least, this list is better than anything Rolling Stone would have come up with. (Although, I don't think I've seen any Sleater-Kinney albums yet. If there aren't any from 11-50, that's a big issue I have with it).
Posts: 1783 | Location: Around Boston. | Registered: 24 February 2005
Here's the full Spin list, for anyone interested (S-K is at 24 bob, so you can rest easy)
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100. Strokes - Is This It 99. Afghan Whigs - Gentlemen 98. Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time 97. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea 96. The Pogues - Rum Sodomy & The Lash 95. Elastica - s/t 94. Slint - Spiderland 93. Pearl Jam - Ten 92. Big Black - Atomizer 91. XTC - Skylarking 90. Sonic Youth - Sister 89. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell 88. Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup 87. Blur - Parklife 86. Meat Puppets - Up On The Sun 85. REM - Automatic For The People 84. Soundgarden - Superunknown 83. At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command 82. Jeff Buckley - Grace 81. Beck - Mellow Gold 80. D'Angelo - Voodoo 79. Moby - Everything Is Wrong 78. The Stone Roses - s/t 77. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 76. Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister 75. Le Tigre - s/t 74. Portishead - Dummy 73. Pulp - Different Class 72. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 71. The Jesus & Mary Chain - Psychocandy 70. Jay-Z - The Blueprint 69. DJ Shadow - Entroducing... 68. Tricky - Maxinquaye 67. Slayer - Reign In Blood 66. Outkast - Aquemini 65. Basement Jaxx - Remedy 64. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 63. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain 62. Missy Elliott - Supa Dupa Fly 61. Weezer - Pinkerton 60. De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead 59. Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West 58. Metallica - Master Of Puppets 57. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells 56. PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love 55. The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole 54. The Breeders - Last Splash 53. Rage Against The Machine - The Battle Of Los Angeles 52. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill 51. Nirvana - In Utero 50. New Order - Low Life 49. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of... 48. Radiohead - Kid A 47. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full 46. The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace 45. Kanye West - College Dropout 44. Green Day - Dookie 43. B.D.P. - Criminal Minded 42. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking 41. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream 40. Run D.M.C. - Raising Hell 39. Lucinda Williams - s/t 38. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory 37. Guided By Voices - Bee Thousand 36. Pixies - Doolittle 35. Dr. Dre - The Chronic 34. Elliott Smith - Either/Or 33. Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted 32. The Replacements - Tim 31. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me 30. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die 29. Fugazi - 13 Songs 28. Oasis - Definitely Maybe 27. The Cure - The Head On The Door 26. Bjork - Post 25. Nine Ince Nails - The Downward Spiral 24. Sleater Kinney - Dig Me Out 23. Outkast - Stankonia 22. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless 21. Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet 20. Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang (36 Chambers) 19. Hole - Live Through This 18. Guns N Roses - Appetite For Destruction 17. Nas - Illmatic 16. Beck - Odelay 15. Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville 14. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation 13. Husker Du - New Day Rising 12. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique 11. U2 - Achtung Baby 10. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton 9. PJ Harvey - Rid Of Me 8. Prince - Sign O The Times 7. De La Soul - 3 Ft. High And Rising 6. Pixies - Surfer Rosa 5. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead 4. Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted 3. Nirvana - Nevermind 2. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation... 1. Radiohead - OK Computer
That's a far better list than I expected from a crap mag like SPIN. For a while, in the early 90's, SPIN was great. So was Alternative Press. Then both of 'em went down the crapper...SPIN stopped covering good bands and AP went nu-metal and emo. I haven't picked up an issue of either in years.
Posts: 3875 | Location: ATL, GA | Registered: 25 May 2004
Originally posted by HellaHellaHella: where do you learn what has leaked?
I have a membership at a torrent site that's one of the first places leaks appear, and I post at a few other boards that have members that also get ahold of leaks and promos.
Originally posted by HellaHellaHella: where do you learn what has leaked?
I have a membership at a torrent site that's one of the first places leaks appear, and I post at a few other boards that have members that also get ahold of leaks and promos.
You are so cool.
Posts: 1103 | Location: Seattle | Registered: 25 May 2004
He asked. There's nothing "cool" about it. I don't think I'm allowed to link to the torrent site, since you can get music illegally there if you have a membership, but it's not some big secret. I asked someone for an invite and I got one. The other boards I post at are the arcade fire fansite and a chicago radio show forum. There, now you're cool too.
Hmm...I'll never understand why a list would have White Blood Cells but not Elephant. Pitchfork does the same with it's 00-04 list.
Maybe White Stripes are just in the midst of hype backlash at the moment, I don't know. But since WBC and Elephant have essentially *exactly the same sound*, except Elephant is better...
I could see including them both, I could see excluding them boht, or I could see having Elephant but not White Blood Cells. I can't understand for the life of me having White Blood Cells and not Elephant. You'd think anti-hype backlash would affect WBC just as much as Elephant, but for some reason it hurts Elephant but not WBC.
Posts: 1783 | Location: Around Boston. | Registered: 24 February 2005
I completely agree on the whole 'where's elephant?' issue. Elephant is infinitely better than WBC. It flows better and there is no song as show-stopping as Ball and Biscuit, Seven Nation Army or Black Math on WBC.
I think a reason is that when WBC came out there was so much hype and excitment around the band and after elephant it had settled down a little.
Posts: 68 | Location: Littleton, CO | Registered: 05 July 2005
I think you guys are missing the point about the White Stripes vis a vis Spin. They wanted to put the earlier, COOLER album on the list (the earlier the cooler, duh!) It's as simple as that. The same thing with many of the other choices.
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Posts: 12927 | Location: Behind the Orange Curtain | Registered: 14 May 2004
Originally posted by Bobthespirit: That's true, mark. I feel the same about Doolittle and Surfer Rosa, and don't get why Surfer Rosa is higher.
But..it's earlier, and rougher. And that would explain it.
I actually get that. I've always liked Surfer Rosa the most out of the Pixies discs. Maybe because it was the record (and tour) that got me into them, but I really like all of the songs on it. Not that I dislike the songs on Doolittle (and several of my favorite songs are on Doolittle) but I think Rosa's the superior record. The "earlier, rougher" part may be at play, although I'm not normally a big fan of rough take stuff.
Posts: 3875 | Location: ATL, GA | Registered: 25 May 2004
I was gonna say something about how much I think Surfer Rosa sucks, but I fear this thread has gone so far off-topic that it will never return if I add another side trip.
So...I love the new Mountain Goats record. It may be their best yet. When I make my new year-best list I think it will be at #2. "...and then I'm awake and I'm guarding my face / hoping you don't break my stereo / because it's the one think I couldn't live without / and so I think about that and then I sort of black out / held under these smothering waves / by your strong and thick-veined hand / but one of these days I'm gonna wriggle up on dry land." How great.
I'm also think that the multiple instruments employed enhance the songs. I mean, one song has nothing but strings and voice and another has a mandolin. A freakin' mandolin! On a Mountain Goats record! This is the best thing I've heard in a while.
I just got Black Sheep Boy (Okkervil River) in the mail yesterday, and listened to it for the first time in a few weeks. It has probably catapulted it's way onto my top 5. Cognitive dissonance? Maybe, but it's a really good record. The only problem I have with it is the same problem I have with Sufjan's Illinoise: weak songs at the tail end. By the way, has anyone seen Okkervil's "For Real" video? It takes a good 8-10 minutes to load (at least on my computer), but it's worth the wait. It's so surreal, yet moving, just like the fantastic artwork on the CD sleeve and cover.
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Posts: 4136 | Location: NE Indiana | Registered: 14 April 2005
I just listened to Love Kraft. Maybe it's just my current state of mind and the fact that this is a first listen, but I seem to get the impression that every song is a rather good pop song, but none really stand out as 'great'.
Then again, that seems to happen on my first listen with Super Furry albums for no apparent reason. The first time I heard Rings Around the World I couldn't stand it, and then it ended up my #6 album of 2002.
Posts: 1783 | Location: Around Boston. | Registered: 24 February 2005
Love Kraft didn't click with me until the 2nd or 3rd time through. And I really liked the For Real video (which loaded almost immediately, no wait time).
01. Antony And The Johnsons - I Am A Bird Now 02. Millionaire - Paradisiac 03. Rufus Wainwright - Want Two 04. Sufjan Stevens - Illinoise 05. Röyksopp - The Understanding 06. dEUS - Pocket Revolution 07. Chemical Brothers - Push The Button 08. Eels - Blinking Lights And Other Revelations 09. Queens Of The Stone Age - Lullabies To Paralyze 10. Coldplay - X&Y 11. Stephen Malkmus - Face The Truth 12. The White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan 13. Admiral Freebee - Songs 14. U2 - How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb 15. Vitalic - Ok Cowboy 16. Sioen - Easy Your Mind 17. Timo Maas - Pictures 18. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Clap Your Hands Say Yeah 19. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods 20. Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock 'n' Roll
If anybody of you don't know a certain album/artist, you should at least give it a try...
Radiohead's Hail to the thief should be number uno on that list and kid a, ok computer, yankee hotel foxtrot should be top 5, queen is dead is a.o.k. wtf man spin just tries to be cool like bts
When I get around to updating (probably not until after my move to Atlanta), I'll certainly be adding the Devin Davis, Son Volt, and Supahip records to my Top 20.
I'll also likely add Mando Diao and the live Gomez and Roger Clyne records as faves, although I rarely keep live records on my lists.
Posts: 3875 | Location: ATL, GA | Registered: 25 May 2004