This movie made me laugh. Who read this script and said, "Wow this movie is going to kick ass!" I hope this was a good learning experience for all who worked on this steaming pile of poo.
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Originally posted by jakal40: This movie made me laugh. Who read this script and said, "Wow this movie is going to kick ass!" I hope this was a good learning experience for all who worked on this steaming pile of poo.
haha, I was thinking the same thing for "the Wedding Crashers"
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Posts: 156 | Location: Boston | Registered: 13 June 2005
Oh come on, Fantastic Four wasn't so bad. Sure, it's not as good as Spider-Man, but it was still ok. Although the scene with the firetruck on the bridge was pretty contrived; it was as if the writers said, "let's write a scene where The Thing collides head-on with a big truck". I guess I've just got a thing for Jessica Alba right now. I'm probably one of the only people who actually saw (and kind of liked) Into the Blue, so that may be tainting my opinion of The Fantastic Four. One of complaints for the film though is I wish they'd done more with Mr. Fantastic. As a fan of the comic book, I always thought he was the coolest character and would have liked to see more stuff with him on screen.
Posts: 6 | Location: Seattle | Registered: 14 August 2004
After this movie, an argument can be made that "comic book franchise" movies have reached the point of diminishing returns. Enough with the comic book bullshit.
Originally posted by Chilliwack: After this movie, an argument can be made that "comic book franchise" movies have reached the point of diminishing returns. Enough with the comic book bullshit.
I disagree. I finally saw "Batman Begins" and was thoroughly impressed by what a superhero movie could be in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing. Christopher Nolan destroyed all the cheese that Joel Shumacher piled onto "Batman & Robin" (The nadir of George Clooney's career...and I'm including "Return of the Killer Tomatoes"). It goes to show that you don't have to spend $50 million on special effects to make a great movie in this genre. I'm hoping we see more of this: Minimalist Super Hero Action Movies.
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Posts: 5353 | Location: Michigan | Registered: 19 June 2005
I hated Batman Begins. What puzzles me about the emergence of the Comic Book Movie Franchise is the elevation of pulpy, B-movie material into supposed "high art." Any film that features people running around in costumes (which sometimes feature pointy-eared masks) needn't take itself too seriously; conversely, they shouldn't be getting "good reviews" because they aren't "good films." Entertaining to some perhaps, but not "good" in any storytelling sense.
The thing that perplexes me most about these films, apart from their recent forays into more "realistic" and "gritty" fare, is how incredibly boring some of them are. X-Men was completely ridiculous; playing out like some sort of psychological drama featuring beefcake buffoons in leather suits--much like Batman Begins. In my opinion, there has only been one Comic Book Franchise Movie that has been any good and that's Donner's Superman.
Originally posted by Chilliwack: I hated Batman Begins. What puzzles me about the emergence of the Comic Book Movie Franchise is the elevation of pulpy, B-movie material into supposed "high art." Any film that features people running around in costumes (which sometimes feature pointy-eared masks) needn't take itself too seriously; conversely, they shouldn't be getting "good reviews" because they aren't "good films." Entertaining to some perhaps, but not "good" in any storytelling sense.
The thing that perplexes me most about these films, apart from their recent forays into more "realistic" and "gritty" fare, is how incredibly boring some of them are. X-Men was completely ridiculous; playing out like some sort of psychological drama featuring beefcake buffoons in leather suits--much like Batman Begins. In my opinion, there has only been one Comic Book Franchise Movie that has been any good and that's Donner's Superman.
So, your point is that comics aren't a legitimate art form, so any film adaptation of a comic book shouldn't strive to be a legitimate piece of art either?
That's B.S. If a movie about hobbits and wizards can be taken seriously enough to win numerous academy awards, including Best Picture, There's no reason why a comic book movie couldn't.
EDIT: Also, I should note that I'm not campaining for Batman Begins to win Best Picture or anything, but I think it was on the right track more than any other comic book superhero movie in recent times.
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Posts: 5353 | Location: Michigan | Registered: 19 June 2005
So, your point is that comics aren't a legitimate art form, so any film adaptation of a comic book shouldn't strive to be a legitimate piece of art either?
That's B.S. If a movie about hobbits and wizards can be taken seriously enough to win numerous academy awards, including Best Picture, There's no reason why a comic book movie couldn't.
I'm not saying that comic's aren't art, I'm saying that they shouldn't be elevated to "high art;" possibly to the point of pretentiousness. Of course comics are legitimate art, but let's not stand on ceremony: they are a [relatively] new, distinctly American novelty "art."
I wouldn't hold your breath about a Comic Book Franchise Movie ever being given the Best Picture Oscar, either; unless the current The Dumbing Down of Society trend continues.
Originally posted by Chilliwack: I'm not saying that comic's aren't art, I'm saying that they shouldn't be elevated to "high art;" possibly to the point of pretentiousness. Of course comics are legitimate art, but let's not stand on ceremony: they are a [relatively] new, distinctly American novelty "art."
I wouldn't hold your breath about a Comic Book Franchise Movie ever being given the Best Picture Oscar, either; unless the current The Dumbing Down of Society trend continues.
I guess I don't see much of distinction between the comic book genre and Sci-Fi and Fantasy films which have been nominated for Academy Awards.
Regardless of the source material, anything could be made into a Best Picture calibur film in the hands of the right screenwriter and director.
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Posts: 5353 | Location: Michigan | Registered: 19 June 2005
I saw this on dvd today. Guess I should say something positive about it, okay: Jessica Alba was gorgeous as Sue Storm and right when I wondered when Stan Lee would show up, there he was as Willie Lumpkin. Too bad there wasn't a plot or screenplay or a few better actors and a better musical score.
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Originally posted by Chilliwack: I'm not saying that comic's aren't art, I'm saying that they shouldn't be elevated to "high art;" possibly to the point of pretentiousness. Of course comics are legitimate art, but let's not stand on ceremony: they are a [relatively] new, distinctly American novelty "art."
I wouldn't hold your breath about a Comic Book Franchise Movie ever being given the Best Picture Oscar, either; unless the current The Dumbing Down of Society trend continues.
"...new, distinctly American novelty 'art'." What do you think of abstract "art". I'm not talking Picasso, I'm talking about giant sized pencils, or humongous shuttlecocks considered art. Or what about lumps of clay barley molded into anything? Do you cosider these "masterpieces" art? Comics are a fantastic example of art. The artwork leaps off of the page with each turn & alot of the stories are provocative & accclaimed! Checkout Alan Moore's 'Watchmen'(which will soon become a movie)or J. Michael Strazinski's 'Rising Stars'. These stories are VERY thought provoking. To finally be recognized enough to be made into high budget movies is the greatest compliment to comic fans.
P.S. I know I probably spelled J. Michael's last name wrong, I just don't feel like running downstairs & grabbing one of his comics just to see how to spell it.
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