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Originally posted by JGlass:
Actually, you're skipping one of the most important parts: the traditional structure.

When a song has A. traditional structure and B. an emphasis on hooks/melody then yeah, it is pop.

I'm waiting for you to post somewhere else so that I can see if you're purposefully being musically ignorant or if you're just ignorant.

This is like a dog chasing it's tail.

The "Pop" I'm referring to is the genre oriented toward mindless mass appeal and commercial success. The KEY word there being "commercial". I'm not suggesting the Sex Pistols did not have those two, but unlike KP, how many 10-12 year old girls has anyone EVER heard humming a Sex Pistols tune? And don't grab some obscure instance and hold that up as proof.

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Originally posted by St. Mike:

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Originally posted by Blankenfeld:
spoken like a true adult with a solid footing in the art of debate.

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Originally posted by Blankenfeld:

BTW - Nice "After passing out" & "Passed the fvck out." pictures on your Myspace page. After seeing these I'm think I'm done with this back-n-forth with a wanna be music journalist, still depending on mommy and daddy, proud of inebriation, multi-high school, still in college, C- mini essayist, yet to figure it out kid like yourself. I really hated to go to this place, but felt overwhelmed after seeing where all this misplaced angst was coming from.

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Originally Posted by Blankenfeld
#2 - Holy smokes! Sounds like the Mormon/Republican has some issues with homosexuality or the mere mention of it? (i.e. difficulty typing the letters G A Y?) Did you also want to suggest that perhaps gays register or perhaps get tattooed so we can use that to protect "...our next generation?" and keep them from being , "...taught hypocrisy"? BTW - it IS OK for of-legal-age, people to explore their sexuality, be it heterosexuality, bisexuality, or homosexuality.

Likewise.

At any point did you receive any blatant "Blow me", or "Troll" comments? Sure, Mormon/Republican but that's more likely than your examples...

Because digging through a myspace page to feed your inferiority complex whilst hiding behind anonymity is much more respectable, I'm sure.

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Originally posted by St. Mike:
Because digging through a myspace page to feed your inferiority complex whilst hiding behind anonymity is much more respectable, I'm sure.

And who are you?? A psychologist?

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Originally posted by Blankenfeld:

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Originally posted by St. Mike:
Because digging through a myspace page to feed your inferiority complex whilst hiding behind anonymity is much more respectable, I'm sure.

And who are you?? A psychologist?

I don't know, who are you?? Max Martin?

Okay so let me see, Blakenfield feels that Katy Perry's music is mindless pop music and when he says pop he's referring to strictly top 40 music that is popular. Because it's mindless pop music we should ignore the homophobia shown in her lyrics and also how it promotes girls kissing other girls for fun.

I'm not really feeling you Blakenfield, do you think we should ignore the sexist messages prevalent in popular rap music?

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Originally posted by Liberalkid:
Okay so let me see, Blakenfield feels that Katy Perry's music is mindless pop music and when he says pop he's referring to strictly top 40 music that is popular. Because it's mindless pop music we should ignore the homophobia shown in her lyrics and also how it promotes girls kissing other girls for fun.

I'm not really feeling you Blakenfield, do you think we should ignore the sexist messages prevalent in popular rap music?

- It's spelled "Blankenfeld"
- I'm saying don't read into it so much. Sure it might appears to you as homophobic and promoting deviant behavior. But if you don't like it, don't listen to it. And avoid trying to turn it into more than it is. Same goes for the sexist messages prevalent in popular rap music. Don't listen to it. But don't get all "Westboro Baptist Church" about it and preach about it's deep dark intentions when there are none.

Wait, after Eric made a great post, we are still arguing and have turned this into a foul, crude, pointless name-calling hissy fit?

It's time for a pow-wow. Let's see if we can start talking about the thread and move on from all of the BS.

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Originally posted by Blankenfeld:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by St. Mike:
Because digging through a myspace page to feed your inferiority complex whilst hiding behind anonymity is much more respectable, I'm sure.

"Know thine enemy."
Simply because I did some research in an effort to better understand the source of an increasingly nasty discourse only means I wanted to be prepared for whatever happened.
This "...hiding behind anonymity" is really a barb your throwing? At what point was I supposed to say, "Hi! I'm so-and-so..." And since you've gotten into this discussion, why don't you tell me who you are? (Not that I care.) Does it even matter? And I'm waiting for another "Blow me" jab. Or perhaps another "Troll" across my bow might make you feel better? Come on. I know you wanna......

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Originally posted by Liberalkid:
Okay so let me see, Blakenfield feels that Katy Perry's music is mindless pop music and when he says pop he's referring to strictly top 40 music that is popular. Because it's mindless pop music we should ignore the homophobia shown in her lyrics and also how it promotes girls kissing other girls for fun.

I'm not really feeling you Blakenfield, do you think we should ignore the sexist messages prevalent in popular rap music?

It's a good thing Skrewdriver never had a top 40 hit!

Up until the attacks on Blankenfeld, I thought this was a half decent discussion. I don't see anything trollish about his initial post. It's a valid point.

Mike, I think you ought to let JGlass fight his own battles. He's an adult now.

well, almost all replies should fit in the "define pop" thread because almost nobody's talking about Katy Perry. I would like to see a Girlicious thread and i would probably read in the last post of the fourth page: "Yeah, Miles Davis started it all but Michael Jackson had an awesome leather outfit..."

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Originally posted by eggtweedyegg:
well, almost all replies should fit in the "define pop" thread because almost nobody's talking about Katy Perry.

Agreed. The bizarre thing is that I'm not so sure anyone in the thread, even Blankenfeld, is saying Katy Perry is actually good.

Maybe I should just state that Katy Perry sucks and close the thread. 'Nuff said.

Oh, you are such a troll.

Before we close it, I think we can all agree that Katy Perry is pretty hot.

OK, thread closed.