I'm a frequent defender of pop music around this board, and I like some of it quite a bit. But this...Jesus. This is everything that's bad about pop music, and everything that's right about what you guys like Mike and Filmore talk about. This is the most utterly crass, opportunist, and insincere album I've heard in a very, very long time. It's not even that the music is so bad, though it's not remarkable - it's Perry herself. Even a cipher like Britney Spears sounds like she believes in and enjoys what she's doing. This...this is a disaster. The inescapable "I Kissed a Girl" makes me want to vomit, the lyrics are embarrassing and incredibly offensive to anyone with a modicum of respect for human dignity, and it very unfortunately nicks the title from Jill Sobule's infinitely more charming 90s hit. Perry's voice itself is about as sexy as Neil Hamburger's.

Avoid at all costs, unlike you'd like to know the difference between a "good" pop star and a bad one. I have a bad taste in my mouth after listening to this album. I needed to get this message out here as quickly as possible; fortunately it looks like most of the critics agree with me.

I sit in raw angst dreading my first experience with this new Perry person. Thanks for the warning.
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To be fair to pop, I heard a Robyn track the other day on So You Think You Can Dance that was pretty dope. Cool instrumental anyway.

I think the single sounds really good production-wise, and I like the chorus a lot. I think the lyrics are the weakest aspect...and not just because they are trying too hard to be "controversial" with girls kissing girls and stuff. They are just kind of clunky and forced. I think her voice is fine for this kind of music, but I haven't heard the whole album.

Holy hell. This bitch actually made an EP called "UR So Gay", with the title track about her ex boyfriend who wore "guyshaddow" and took pics of himself in the mirror. It doesn't matter how you frame it, calling a straight man "gay" because he's emo is rampant homoph0bia. I can't wait till this chick is smoking crack.

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Originally posted by Filmore Mescalito Holmes:
Holy hell. This bitch actually made an EP called "UR So Gay", with the title track about her ex boyfriend who wore "guyshaddow" and took pics of himself in the mirror. It doesn't matter how you frame it, calling a straight man "gay" because he's emo is rampant homoph0bia. I can't wait till this chick is smoking crack.

Lmao, that sounds fuck awful.

Sorry, I just had to edit this post because I'm still laughing at that EP title.

I just imagine what someone's reaction would be when they pick it up off a shelf at their local JB (probably not knowing who the artist is) and start reading the title "You're so gay" to themselves, as if the EP is specifically insulting whoever reads the title.

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I get the impression that Katy Perry desperately wants to be the American Lily Allen. The problem is she is not nearly as clever or authentic, and her music is rather cookie cutter in comparison.

Wilsonna, if you like the production of "I Kissed a Girl" I highly recommend checking out the most recent album by the Veronicas, Hook Me Up. Same kind of idea, rocking electro pop (I guess that's the trend for white chicks lately), but the execution is much better.

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Originally posted by odysseyandoracle:
if you like the production of "I Kissed a Girl" I highly recommend checking out the most recent album by the Veronicas, Hook Me Up. Same kind of idea, rocking electro pop (I guess that's the trend for white chicks lately), but the execution is much better.

Where are you from O&O? Does the VA stand for Victoria, Australia?

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I can't wait till this chick is smoking crack.

Can't wait to see an addicted Filmore checking Katy Perry scandals on the web. :P

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Originally posted by Awe-inspiring Jamshed:
Where are you from O&O? Does the VA stand for Victoria, Australia?

Nah, Virginia, in the US. I can understand why you'd think that though, I don't think that disc is even out in America right now. But I have acquired it through the magic of piracy.

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Originally posted by Awe-inspiring Jamshed:
Where are you from O&O? Does the VA stand for Victoria, Australia?

Nah, Virginia, in the US. I can understand why you'd think that though, I don't think that disc is even out in America right now. But I have acquired it through the magic of piracy.

Yeah, I was pretty sure that The Veronicas were only heard of in Australia. It would kind of seem like a crime if they were internationally famous, when Delta Goodrem (another aussie female pop artist, but vastly better on many levels ) has been at it longer.

Also there is a suburb in Melbourne called Richmond, so put the 2 together...

I also find it a bit fascist that she came out with "UR So Gay", essentially a vicious emo-bashing song with blatant homophobic overtones, at the same time as Mexico is having emo protests and riots as a result of gang beatings, where homophobic males take out their aggression on easy to spot metrosexuals (*Link to Time article*). Way to fan the flames of hatred while making lesbianism seem like nothing more than a fad. This broad is pure class.

Holy sh!t I cannot stomach how pretentious the majority of you come off in your comments about this album. Pop music is typically not meant to be read into so deeply and analyzed as if it were some 1960's Bob Dylan song. Posters with comments like, "...the lyrics are embarrassing and incredibly offensive to anyone with a modicum of respect for human dignity..." and "...calling a straight man "gay" because he's emo is rampant homophobia..." need to lighten the f__k up. I'm sure KP doesn't take nearly as much stock in her lyrics as it appears you all do. If you wanna get all analytical why don't you lather yourselves up with some Marilyn Manson's or better yet, some Trey Parker/Matt Stone lyrics.

Um...She pretends to have actually wrote the lyrics, so I would hope that she takes them seriously. Music is supposed to be one spilling their soul over, even in more light-hearted songs, so the fact that her lyrics are so indicative of watered down pop music made in a boardroom by ceos and are only followed current taboos, norms, etc. is essentially just another way of programming children into thinking that bicuriosity should be a fad.

Katy Perry is the music's taint.

Additionally, the writers of South Park are far more creative and original than Katy Perry's manager could ever hope the universal ceos to be. They produce a very funny social satire, which isn't something we could say for 'KP.'

Manson started off as a complete joke with faux christian death metal. How he gained so much fame is beyond me.

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Originally posted by Blankenfeld:
Pop music is typically not meant to be read into so deeply and analyzed as if it were some 1960's Bob Dylan song.

Bob Dylan didn't put out popular music made for mass consumption? Hmm... Good example.

Hmmm. Read a little deeper and break down the sentence meaning a little more JGlass. Where in my reference did I imply Bob Dylan made music for mass consumption? It was the example antithesis of what everyone is assuming KP's pop music should be. Very good try though. I'll hand you that.

"...so I would hope that she takes them seriously. Music is supposed to be one spilling their soul over, even in more light-hearted songs..."

Once again, where is it written that, "...Music is supposed to be one spilling their soul..."? Does this apply to ALL music? I seriously doubt R.E.M. would agree that concept would apply to 'It's The End Of The World As We Know It'

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"...programming children...."

Spoken like a true Mormon/Republican. Lighten up!

At least we agree on Trey Parker and Matt Stone but once again, I'd put money on it KP is simply trying to produce a catchy collection vs creating social satire or too-be-taken seriously social commentary. You're assuming she is and I just think you're off the mark on that.

I also agree on your comment about MManson, but once again, my point is that pop music is most often about entertaining people and not about some deep social commentary; which can also be said about MManson's music. His priority was making music that would make him rich and famous vs making some deep social commentary. Sadly, it worked.

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Originally posted by Blankenfeld:
Hmmm. Read a little deeper and break down the sentence meaning a little more JGlass. Where in my reference did I imply Bob Dylan made music for mass consumption? It was the example antithesis of what everyone is assuming KP's pop music should be. Very good try though. I'll hand you that.

Irony, thy name is Blankenfeld.

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Originally posted by Blankenfeld:
Hmmm. Read a little deeper and break down the sentence meaning a little more JGlass. Where in my reference did I imply Bob Dylan made music for mass consumption?

You didn't imply that... I was stating that he did. How much do you know about Dylan? Because I happen to know that during his "protest period" he would just open the newspaper to the front page and write about whatever he saw.. not because it hit him deeply, but because it was what the general public wanted.

He did exactly what Katy Perry does.. except she's talking about kissing girls and emo kids and he could actually write a memorable song.

Nice try though, Blankenfeld.