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Anyone else enjoy Seth Green's Leave Chris Crocker Alone!? Britney Spears definitely knows how to pick producers to gear her sound to what is in. Just like JT. Granted I hate mainstream music but we aren't going to stop people from falling into the "spell" that big major record labels keep producing. People just want to know what's "cool" and if Britney is playing on the radio/TV then that's considered "cool".
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| Posts: 226 | Location: Toronto, Ontario | Registered: 16 September 2007 |    |
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Its just sad, it is a true statement on the current condition of the music industry. A record can be sold not on the merit of its music but rather on how much tabloid covers the artist (if you can even call her that) is on. The reason people have bought this album is curiosity and nothing more, there is no depth to her music. Spears is a dinosaur and a hold over from the 90's who unlike many of her contemporaries is unable to evolve with the times and change her image as well as her musical style to show any maturity or creativity. Those people who bought her music years ago have grown up, so why cant she? Many pop artist have been able to change and evolve with the times and still stay relevant and popular while showing great depth, but it seems that spears (or should i say the people who control her or tell her what to do) wish not to take a risk and stick to the same formula she used when she was 17 (Low browl radio friendly sexuality that boarders more on cheap back alley prostitution then it does on true sex appeal, easy to digest none complicated dance beats, and simple verse chorus verse song structure, all in a simple 4 minute or less radio format) The use of auto tuner on this record is sickening, it just goes to show how many in the music industry use the studio not as a tool to enhance the artist and the music but as a crutch to support them and hide their all to evident flaws. This is all to visible in her inability to perform her own music on stage (let alone fake it) Since when was it more important to dance then sing in the context of popular music? Is her music that shallow that people go to the shows to see crappy dancing (if she was a good dancer she wouldn’t need choreographers to tell her every single move to make on stage) rather then listen to the music. She is nothing but a little doll that record executives hope to wind up and play so they can try to save their failing industry. Its not a comeback album its just another Britney Spears album, meaning its got two or tree so called "hit singles" and a bunch of filler. The Music industry is changing but its obvious Britney Spears is too much in her own world to see that change. Just look at the cover, its so cheesy and sloppy. Its as if she is making a personal statement saying that she doesn’t really have to take her music serious or anything, she is "britney bich," and therefore we should buy it solely because its Britney Spears. Though because of the music she makes and the market she sells it to (the mainstream) that just won’t suffice for making good music. In today’s current realm of mainstream popular music you can’t just sit around for a few years and do nothing and then expect to be just as big as you used to be, it just doesn’t happen. People have too short of an attention span. And it shows, Spears album couldn’t even sell the expected 350 thousand albums it was expected to. The truth is Britney Spears is passé. Mainstream musical acts usually have to be the most aware of musical change because their careers and the popularity of their music all depend on what’s hip at the time, so they have to stay culturally aware and hip to the times. They have no true fan base all they have is what the general public thinks is in vogue and therefore they have to stay up with the trends. Its obvious Britney Spears is unaware of this because she believes that solely because of her name she can be a giant musical act. But the music industry is shallow and when you are so self absorbed that you are unable to see the times changing, you're going to get left behind. The 90's are over and so is this farce that has been sold to us as something resembling talent. Spears needs to stick to what she is good at, being tabloid fader.
Davie Buk Boyd
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Wow, this dude is really passionate... about the wrong things. It would've been nice if he'd stayed a while and shared what he though isn't crap. (I mean, I agree obviously, but this just seems like a huge waste of time. That was a huge post)
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| Posts: 2826 | Location: Drug induced coma. | Registered: 01 December 2006 |    |
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Britney has the best of everthing; it's pretty much the case when it comes to her producers too. Danja, Timbaland's protege, did a lot of work on her latest album... and I think Blackout is a pretty good comeback album on Britney's part. Of course most of the credit should be given to her producers, but since Britney has an 'executive producer' credit on this record I'll just give it to her =D Anyhow, I can't imagine someone like 'Christina Aguilera' moaning out "Gimme gimme more..." to the same effect as Britney Spears, no matter how synthesized the voice will turn out to be.
Sleeping is giving in...so lift those heavy eyelids!
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Jedi
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quote: Originally posted by himynameisraymond: Britney has the best of everthing; it's pretty much the case when it comes to her producers too. Danja, Timbaland's protege, did a lot of work on her latest album... and I think Blackout is a pretty good comeback album on Britney's part. Of course most of the credit should be given to her producers, but since Britney has an 'executive producer' credit on this record I'll just give it to her =D
Anyhow, I can't imagine someone like 'Christina Aguilera' moaning out "Gimme gimme more..." to the same effect as Britney Spears, no matter how synthesized the voice will turn out to be.
No. ---------------------------------- Employee of the month awards are the opiate of the masses. For the potheadsGang Starr
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| Posts: 3808 | Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha | Registered: 18 October 2004 |    |
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I hate to say it, but I think Britney is being dealt a real sh!tty hand here. I mean, she has a couple kids, goes a little extra crazy, and all of a sudden it's so trendy to lay down some Spears jokes at every party about what a crazy slut she is (and stupidly heavy on the sexism). I've got news for you, she's always sucked, she's always been a crazy, dumb-a$$ b!tch, and she's always been a slut. Just because she had a couple kids doesn't mean she's changed in the slightest, only now she's down so she's easy to kick. She's become the new Michael Jackson. It's pretty pathetic. ________________________________________________________ "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson tinymixtapes.com / The Skinny / PopMatters
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| Posts: 1172 | Location: Vansterdam, Canada | Registered: 28 November 2004 |    |
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Jedi
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I don't really care about an artist's personal life, they can be a mass murderer for all I care (that would be interesting, actually), all I have concern for is the quality of the music produced. I have made jokes, but nothing about what she does with her life, it's all about the music for me. ---------------------------------- Employee of the month awards are the opiate of the masses. For the potheadsGang Starr
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| Posts: 3808 | Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha | Registered: 18 October 2004 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by /\/\1X3: I don't really care about an artist's personal life, they can be a mass murderer for all I care (that would be interesting, actually), all I have concern for is the quality of the music produced.
Yeah, I feel the exact same way about movie stars. Who cares who's gay or who's hookin' up or what country their adopted children came from? Honestly. What do any of these things have to do with why I listen to their music or watch their flicks? This whole Britney Spears thang is really annoying, though. I mean, they were actually talking about her shape in her last performance. The woman had 2 kids! My wife had 2 kids and the woman is still trying to slim down 2 years later! With the way they kept showing the footage of her when she nearly dropped her baby, they made it look like she woulda did that if she weren't surrounded by photogs flashing pictures, obstructing her way to her car and calling out her name! How unsettling would that be for any one of us? Then folks wonder why the girl went and shaved her head! Don't get me wrong. I don't listen to her music. I'm not a fan, but I do think it's unfair that people constantly put the girl down. If anyone in the world were put under a microscope, we would see all sorts of stupid, idiotic, ridiculous, shameful, embarrassing, awful acts. Stars are people too. They just happen to make waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more money than we do. That's all. They aren't role models and shouldn't be looked at as such. If a child needs a hero, they should be lookin' to mom & dad or a kind police officer or even a fireman, but not someone who sings for a living or who just plays pretend (or a children's game, i.e. sports "heroes") for copious amounts of cash. "I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!"
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| Posts: 2584 | Location: Springfield, Oh! Hi ya, Maude! | Registered: 01 January 2007 |    |
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^^^ It's just too easy to kick someone when they're down. I say it's well past due time to start the Rhianna bashing. She sure laughed at Sarah Silverman's jokes, but in 5 years, she'll be in the exact same place. Soak it in, you no talent hack. ________________________________________________________ "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson tinymixtapes.com / The Skinny / PopMatters
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| Posts: 1172 | Location: Vansterdam, Canada | Registered: 28 November 2004 |    |
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Jedi
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quote: Originally posted by Filmore Mescalito Holmes: ^^^ It's just too easy to kick someone when they're down. I say it's well past due time to start the Rhianna bashing. She sure laughed at Sarah Silverman's jokes, but in 5 years, she'll be in the exact same place. Soak it in, you no talent hack.
I doubt this statment simply because I have no idea who Rhianna is. This means she will probably just be one of those millions of stars that came around for a while and then disapeared. The interested thing is how sometimes stars become so popular that they are only popular because they are popular. Paris Hilton is front page news, for no other reason than the fact that she is a person that is front page news. I think people aren't objective in critisizing Britney Spears music because "Britney Spears" and her "music" are no longer connected entities. They are two completely different machines that do not need the other to continue. She could never make another album again, and people will talk about her until she dies at 80 and it's breaking news on CNN.com.
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| Posts: 1954 | Location: Peter's Creek, Alaska | Registered: 08 August 2007 |    |
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So this album is really good. You know, if you can stomach top 40 music. It's a weird, unsettling record and surely contains the best use of autotune to subvert the norms of pop. Sounds like someone's been listening to the Knife. There are pieces on Popmatters and Pitchfork's Poptimist column that sum up my overall feelings on the album much more eloquently than I could. Suffice to say I never expected Britney Spears to come out with such a strange, interesting pop album.
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Jedi
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quote: Suffice to say I never expected Britney Spears to come out with such a strange, interesting pop album.
Britney has probably done nothing on this record except singing (if you think that she can still sing...) She's just a stupid fat-ass puppet.
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| Posts: 1484 | Location: Quebec, Canada | Registered: 16 November 2005 |    |
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Jedi
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Wikipedia has eight different producers listed Nate Hills, Avant, Bloodshy, Sean Garrett, Kara DioGuardi, Freescha, Farid "Fredwreck" Nassar, The Clutch, The Neptunes, so I truly doubt Spears did much of the heavy lifting. ---------------------------------- Employee of the month awards are the opiate of the masses. For the potheadsGang Starr
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| Posts: 3808 | Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha | Registered: 18 October 2004 |    |
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Jedi
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quote: Originally posted by Tweedy's party time lounge: quote: Suffice to say I never expected Britney Spears to come out with such a strange, interesting pop album.
Britney has probably done nothing on this record except singing (if you think that she can still sing...) She's just a stupid fat-ass puppet.
Brutal but true. Anyone can afford Mellodyne these days. But don't worry if she does or doesn't pull a Mariah Carey and bounce back, you prime middle class worker demographic, there's fifteen more of her coming out next week, and every week to satisfy the desires we tell you to have that, in turn, help keep you imprisoned in the life you chose when you were 19. Mwahahahahaha!!!!! ________________________________________________________ "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson tinymixtapes.com / The Skinny / PopMatters
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| Posts: 1172 | Location: Vansterdam, Canada | Registered: 28 November 2004 |    |
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Jedi
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quote: Farid "Fredwreck" Nassar
Even terrorists are in this plot!
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| Posts: 1484 | Location: Quebec, Canada | Registered: 16 November 2005 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Tweedy's party time lounge: quote: Suffice to say I never expected Britney Spears to come out with such a strange, interesting pop album.
Britney has probably done nothing on this record except singing (if you think that she can still sing...) She's just a stupid fat-ass puppet.
Ok, sure... she did nothing much on this album. But it was still released under her brand(tm). A brand(tm) I didn't think would put something like this out.
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Jedi
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quote: I seem to recall "Toxic" blowing people's minds when it came out too.
Probably the most decent Spears song i heard. It's still not interesting, but it's not mediocre. Enough bla bla about Britney.......
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| Posts: 1484 | Location: Quebec, Canada | Registered: 16 November 2005 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by atibon: So this album is really good. You know, if you can stomach top 40 music. It's a weird, unsettling record and surely contains the best use of autotune to subvert the norms of pop. Sounds like someone's been listening to the Knife. There are pieces on Popmatters and Pitchfork's Poptimist column that sum up my overall feelings on the album much more eloquently than I could. Suffice to say I never expected Britney Spears to come out with such a strange, interesting pop album.
^^^I agree. It's actually a pretty interesting album...though I have to say it isn't because of Britney by any means. I've listened to all of her albums, and this one is the only one I could stand enough to buy. I generally don't listen to Top40, but this one is really underrated. If she or the record label would promote it, I'm sure it would sell.
riiiight.
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