You have all missed one of the most terrible performances of all time. I can't recall her name, but does anyone remember the girl who played 'Newt' in Aliens?
'They come at night...mostly'
She was CATASTROPHIC!
She was possibly topped by the other 'way too awful' child actress in 28 Days Later.
That's OK. I'm not trying to dispute you at all, but I thought he was pretty good in River's Edge, Hardball, and A Walk in the Clouds, and he was hilarious in the Bill & Ted movies and in I Love You to Death.
"Naked Woman, Naked Man Where did you get that nice sun tan?"
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Originally posted by mark f: That's OK. I'm not trying to dispute you at all, but I thought he was pretty good in River's Edge, Hardball, and A Walk in the Clouds, and he was hilarious in the Bill & Ted movies and in I Love You to Death.
I agree, mark. I still believe his best role is as Ted Theodore Logan. Another movie I liked him in was Parenthood as Todd.
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She gave a surprisingly good performace in the underrated "Roger Dodger", but Elizabeth Berkeley's spectacularly awful role in "Showgirls" (one of the most spectacularly awful movies ever made), I believe, will truly go down in cinema history as the worst acting debut EVER.
Your selections make me want to give him another try. I had not considered these roles. I still may be one of those with whom he just doesn't resonate; but, who knows? I love to be challenged for often roles I had not considered are mentioned and make me want to watch the movie. I wan't a big "Bill and Ted" fan, but the others I just didn't see because I prejudged his talent. Usually that is a bad mistake. I hope this proves to be one.
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Originally posted by mark f: That's OK. I'm not trying to dispute you at all, but I thought he was pretty good in River's Edge, Hardball, and A Walk in the Clouds, and he was hilarious in the Bill & Ted movies and in I Love You to Death.
Boy, you got to carry that weight a long time!
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Do you really think that he was that good in Speed? The Devil's Advocate? I am asking for your opinion more than making a statement. I am interested in his depth and whether I want to check out his next movie.
Boy, you got to carry that weight a long time!
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Appears to me that you're avoiding here. Your first post refers to "Keanu Reeves in ANY role. Never has one so "one-dimensional" achieved such success (emphasis added)" as worst actor and I pointed out Sweet November (2001) as one role that I liked which was my "opinion." I suggest you watch it and see for yourself. His depth as an actor is available in contrasting this performance with others. I don't see why you didn't give mark f a hard time when he offered his opinion or fact as to movies he suggested that he liked with Keanu Reeves.
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Originally posted by tabuno: Appears to me that you're avoiding here. Your first post refers to "Keanu Reeves in ANY role. Never has one so "one-dimensional" achieved such success (emphasis added)" as worst actor and I pointed out Sweet November (2001) as one role that I liked which was my "opinion." I suggest you watch it and see for yourself. His depth as an actor is available in contrasting this performance with others. I don't see why you didn't give mark f a hard time when he offered his opinion or fact as to movies he suggested that he liked with Keanu Reeves.
Point well taken. It is my nature to stick with my original assessment, unless you can show me why its wrong. I live in an area that does not offer many of the films mentioned. Therefore, I can only judge him based on "what I have seen." I want to know what films are available on dvd that display the asserted depth. However, as of right now, unless I see something different in the films offered, I still think he is one dimensional. He does not use inflection of voice with any versatility, nor does he use facial expression to convey emotion. (based on what I've seen) If there is more to him than that, I want to see it! Back to your point, and it is a good one: he is really going to have display skills that surprise me. I have had people write me that he was in good movies. Well, there are weak actors in great movies. Sometimes the storyline is so good it would take a dunce to mess it up. So, are these movies good, or is Reeves good? I guess I'll find out. Thanks for calling my hand.
Boy, you got to carry that weight a long time!
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Rev. Rikard is a respectable poster who can actually discuss this stuff. I understand your opinion of Keanu Reeves and it is sometimes difficult to separate the actor from the box office hits he has been in. Does the popularity of the movie make the actor and shed any light on talent and ability? Or is Keanu just fortunate? Lucky?
Yul Brynner had a brief time in the spotlight but was unable to shed his film persona.
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Robert Taylor, part of MGM's stable of stars, was an absolutely awful actor. Wooden.
Richard Egan, a minor leading man in the fifties & sixties who was in a lot of Westerns. Absolutely wooden with absolutely no range. He was in POLLYANNA in a supporting role and was awful. Stiff.
Gregory Peck, despite CAPE FEAR & TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, was another cigar store indian. Awful. Stiff, wooden, no range.
Walter Pidgeon. Another graduate of the cigar store indian school of acting. Wooden. Stiff. Awful.
Gregory Peck??? No range? Spellbound, Duel in the Sun, The Yearling, Yellow Sky, Twelve O'Clock High, The Gunfighter, Roman Holiday, The Big Country, The Guns of Navarone, Captain Newman, M.D., Mirage, Arabesque, etc. That seems to cover just about every range of emotion I can think of, but hey, it's only an opinion.
Now, Richard Egan on the other hand...
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Originally posted by mark f: Gregory Peck??? No range? Spellbound, Duel in the Sun, The Yearling, Yellow Sky, Twelve O'Clock High, The Gunfighter, Roman Holiday, The Big Country, The Guns of Navarone, Captain Newman, M.D., Mirage, Arabesque, etc. That seems to cover just about every range of emotion I can think of, but hey, it's only an opinion.
Now, Richard Egan on the other hand...
Gregory Peck always played Gregory Peck. No range. And most of those films you mention don't hold up. Like you said it is all subjective, but ROMAN HOLIDAY dates very badly, SPELLBOUND isn't top-shelf Hitchcock and CAPTAIN NEWMAN I don't think is a very good film.
Another actor, who I like despite his Peck-like limitations, is Errol Flynn. He couldn't act a lick, but was a movie star and a personality who could fill up the screen.
I don't intend to offer up a sacrificial actor's name while we're dealing with Gregory Peck, but the same reasoning might go along with Kevin Costner, an actor that I actually admire and consider to be solid actor who has portrayed some gritty, complicated, multi-dimensional characters and yet, I wonder how others view him considering what has been said about Gregory Peck.
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Originally posted by tabuno: I don't intend to offer up a sacrificial actor's name while we're dealing with Gregory Peck, but the same reasoning might go along with Kevin Costner, an actor that I actually admire and consider to be solid actor who has portrayed some gritty, complicated, multi-dimensional characters and yet, I wonder how others view him considering what has been said about Gregory Peck.
I think Kevin Costner is actually a good actor, it's just that he choice of material is absolutely awful. He's a guy who needs a hit desperately.
