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I totally agree about Keanu. I am very disappointed that he was cast as John Constantine from the Hellblazer series. The trailers look awesome except for Keanu chewing on his dialogue. Plus the character is supposed to be British and blonde, but now we get a dark haired, North American, Constantine. Bad actor, bad casting.


I agree that Keanu sucks but he isn't the worst ever! He was acceptable in The 1st Matrix The Gift and Devil's Advocate and he was funny in Parenthood and the Bill and Ted films. I think he should stick to comedies coz he is genuinely funny, whether it is intentionnally (Johnny Mnemonic) or not (Matrix 2 and 3).

And as for Constantine, you DON'T want Keanu to do an english accent, you really don't (see the accent disaster in Dracula!)
 
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I really don't like dwelling on the bad...but since you brought it up I may as well say that PAUL WALKER is terrible. Fast and the Furious also pulled that damned Vin Gasoline up to star status (unfortunately...) and while we are on buff dudes, The Rock sucks at acting too. If they want to deem themselves worthy, they must have at least one dramatic scene where I can see the big goons cry. I want to see snot and spittle dribbling down that big ugly face of Vin's... and Keanu won me over in Sweet November, the Matrix, Bill and Ted, and the Gift, proving that he can act any damn genre he gets put to.
 
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I agree with every actor that people have put so far, would also add Jim Carrey. Perhaps he's not the worst actor but everything he does irritates the hell out of me.


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I agree with every actor that people have put so far, would also add Jim Carrey. Perhaps he's not the worst actor but everything he does irritates the hell out of me.


You sound like my dad who describes Carrey as grating and one dimensional. In to which I always seem to respond


But---but---but--The Truman Show...or...or...Eternal S-S-Sunshine......he was amzingly good......God. Shut up...
 
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I think there's a few more Carrey performances you like, Sam (Man on the Moon, etc.)


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I think there's a few more Carrey performances you like, Sam (Man on the Moon, etc.)



God, Mark. You know me better than I know me. "Man on the Moon" owns my soul !
 
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Mad Leave Jim Carrey alone!!
His Almighty name shouldn't even be mentionned in the "Worst Actors" category!
Downer, you don't like his style of comedy but, I mean, can you do what he does? Have you seen the films mentionned above by the wise EccentricSam and Mark!
Jim is a brilliant comedian and a fine actor. He's way better than some big name actors like Brad Pitt or Keanu Reeves...to name a couple. Big Grin
 
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I'm sorry, it is a little funny seeing a character of Jim Carrey defending Jim Carrey.

I don't really have a "Worst Actor Every." But if put on the spot I would probably mention Vin Diesel, Ice Cube, and Ashton Kutcher. (I don't care if you like "Butterfly Effect" the man cannot act. Watch "Guess Who" and see what I mean, I walked out within the first twenty minutes of the film and go my money back.)
 
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I disagree with everyone saying Keanu Reeves is a bad actor. I think he is very underrated as an actor. I have seen many of his movies and he is great. especially in point break, speed, the gift, the devil's advocate, bill and ted movies, the matrix movies, tune in tommorow, something's gotta give, permanent record, parenthood,hardball, chain reaction, the night before and many others. And i also think he did an awesome job In Constantine. He was supposed to play a character with a dull, cynical, sarcastic personality. And he pulled it off very well. Very few actors would pull it off believable. Keanu always plays diverse characters and roles. never the same like Ashton Kutcher, Orlando Bloom, and Jim carrey. Personally i dont see why people always say he is a bad actor. I think the worst actors ever are Bill Paxton and George Stults( kevin,lucy's husband on 7th heaven). Now george stults has no emotion what so ever. he really sucks!!
 
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Look, I like Keanu too, but I wouldn't actually say he has diversity. Maybe diverse plots and stories, but he usually plays the same character in different instances. He was just as Neo in Much Ado About Nothing as he was in the Matrix! I'd have to say his standout performance has been Hardball, maybe not a good movie, but a well acted part. Right below that would be Sweet November, also not a very good movie but pretty well acted.
 
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I disagree with everyone saying Keanu Reeves is a bad actor. I think he is very underrated as an actor. I have seen many of his movies and he is great. especially in point break, speed, the gift, the devil's advocate, bill and ted movies, the matrix movies, tune in tommorow, something's gotta give, permanent record, parenthood,hardball, chain reaction, the night before and many others. And i also think he did an awesome job In Constantine. He was supposed to play a character with a dull, cynical, sarcastic personality. And he pulled it off very well. Very few actors would pull it off believable. Keanu always plays diverse characters and roles. never the same like Ashton Kutcher, Orlando Bloom, and Jim carrey. Personally i dont see why people always say he is a bad actor. I think the worst actors ever are Bill Paxton and George Stults( kevin,lucy's husband on 7th heaven). Now george stults has no emotion what so ever. he really sucks!!


Hmm.... Well, I guess I somewhat understand how you could think he was a good actor but he is definitely not underated. It is the precise thing that he is so very popular to the public that would make me want to put him in this category.
 
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I realise in my last post It sounded like I hated poor Keanu.
I really like Keanu! His films are always worth seeing because they're often original and stylish. The Bill and Ted films are most excellent, Devil's Advocate contains a surprisingly ok performance from Keanu. And the MAtrix, Constantine, Johnny Mnemonic are all pretty cool.
It's just his acting that's wooden. But he's charismatic so it often doesn't matter.
 
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When i said Keanu is underrated as an actor I meant as in his acting skills not in his popularity. In Much Ado about nothing that is a very different character than Neo. In much ado he is an angry and mellacious character. Neo's character is just trying to understand and fine answers, totally different. Neo is a much nicer, calmer character.
 
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I really don't want to argue about the validity of Reeves acting abilities. But I have noticed that you created a thread and called him one of the "Sexiest actors ever," therefore, I can only conclude that you have a particular amount of bias in your statement. I won't really say much to disprove you because, after all, this is a subjective thread and there is no right or wrong.

I LOVE "The Matrix" series but still don't think Keanu is a good actor. He may have been in a couple decent flicks but, overall, he is unable to portray any emotion at all.

This brings me to another idea entirely though. Why is beauty and popularity synonymous? In general, these ideals degrade the industry and and bring about "Pop culture" which is a plague upon smart films. It doesn't seem to be about the movies anymore, but who is in them and how they look. Nevermind the plot, acting, or anything of actual relevance, I want to go to a movie just to stare at a person I will never meet for two hours.
 
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So I was pointing out that the way he talks is always the same monotone sort of voice. With little or no expression. He gives the impression that he's the same person. Other actors -- better actors, can be different people every time.
 
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Downer, you don't like his style of comedy but, I mean, can you do what he does? Have you seen the films mentionned above by the wise EccentricSam and Mark!
Jim is a brilliant comedian and a fine actor. He's way better than some big name actors like Brad Pitt or Keanu Reeves...to name a couple. Big Grin
Firstly, I have seen a fair few of his movies, well parts of them that I could bare to sit through! The Truman Show was awful and wasn't he in that piece of crap, the Majestic? He is repetitive in his actions in basically all of his movies.
Secondly, Brad Pitt is not a bad actor, have you seen True Romance (I know his part in this was small, but he was excellent in it), 12 Monkeys or Fight Club?
Plus, I don't think that either Keanu Reeves or Brad Pitt are the best actors. For me, good actors are those that can change between roles and not feel the need to bring in 'wit' where it is not required. Carrey nearly always tries to be funny. Go watch something with Christopher Walken, Gary Oldman or Johnny Depp, then tell me that Carrey is better than them.


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My mission: prove downer wrong. Okay, first off, when you said something about good actors being able to change between roles, I believe you meant DIVERSITY, and if you don't see the diversity in "Ace Ventura" any different from ESOTSM, then you have a problem. The Majestic wasn't CRAP, it just wasn't that good, and it had nothing to do with Jim Carrey's acting, it was just the story.

Also, even if he isn't diverse, there are many good "character actors" that do one thing THE BEST, and that would be Carrey. Maybe you don't appreciate his special talent at being a rubberface or applying "wit" when it needs not be there -which I find ironic with Jim Carreys filmography including "Dumb and Dumber"- but at least don't go around calling him the worst actor ever. A man that can pull off Andy Kaufman and then the Grinch deserves a muthafunkin standing ovation.
 
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I think this Jim Carrey thing has gone on far too long. Overrated? Possibly. But he is certainly not bad, you may not like his humor but many people do. He has saved a couple stinkers, most recently "A Series of Unfortunate Events," and he has made other movies excellent, "The Mask," "Dumb and Dumber," "Liar Liar." Frankly, he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in this thread.

I think that what makes a "Good Actor" is a person in "Good movies" that plays a particular role for that movie very well. There are many overrated actors, but very few bad ones.
 
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Absolutely The Worst Part ever was Richard Crenna as John Rambo's superior in Rambo: The First Blood.

Just watch and listen to His dialog with Town Sheriff in woods...oh the comedy Smiler
 
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Hayden Christensen is a fair enough choice. He was truly abominable in Attack of the Clones, though I think he had improved a fair bit by the time Revenge of the Sith was filmed.

I might go with Keanu Reeves. Constantine was a bad enough movie without Reeves making it all the more tedious by mumbling and squinting his way through every scene.
 
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