Yeah, I just saw the trailer too. I don't know, I found it a tad dissapointing. It looks a little childish maybe, and the way they made Johnny Depp look with all that white makeup. Whatever, you can't judge a book by its cover. Tim Burton hasn't let me down yet. I'll just have to wait and see.
Posts: 451 | Location: Northern California | Registered: 16 August 2004
I am really excited about "Charlie" BUT (yeah there's always a "but") I dont know what to thik of the trailer. I look at the poster and I see this demented version of Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka as if he was in "A Clockwork Orange". This was the most exciting thing I saw with the ad campaign. The trailer, on the other hand, did away with the creepiness of the simple poster, and was just plain bubbly and crazy. And it was definately well done. The production design was top notch as it should be in the best of a Burton film. But, while watching it I had the feeling i was viewing Spongebob's version of "The Chocolate Factory" rather a version from the man who gave me such twisted classics as "Edward Scissorhands", "The Nightmare Before Christmas", and "Batman". I dont know what to think. I doubt it'll be a travesty like "Apes" but Im sure it wont be reminiscent of his golden age of filmmaking. Well, I guess it's silly to speculate. One thing for sure is that Johnny Depp will be fantastic!
I just saw the trailer - it looks awesome! I think Burton will do a great job with this classic. I heard some of the music too and I think it will be good, darker than the original.
Posts: 81 | Location: Boston, MA | Registered: 11 November 2004
I noticed as well that it had an eerie creepiness to the poster, I completely agree with Eccentric about that being gone in the preview. However, as far as I've seen the trailer has given Charlie a pale skin color. I think what was so great about Willy Wonka was that he was your average guy, that owned a big kids play ground. The trailer is giving him a childish look that is more reasonable for the factory owner, but I don't know how I like that.
I read that Burton is no fan of the original adaption of Willy Wonka and is making the Oompas much smaller (and probably not midgits, but normal, tiny people.) Interesting, it is, that Burton didn't like the original, its also kind of frightening. If I had to guess one of Burton's childhood favorites, I would've thought of the original Willy Wonka.
Apparently he's making an animated film like Nightmare Before Christmas! It's called The Corpse Bride and will come out this year I think. It'll have the voices of Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter (obviously). It looks awesome.
Oh God, I sooo want to see this film, I'm in France right now, and it's already out but I REFUSE to see it with those gay French voices, no way, nu huh. Oh well, I'll try to find a cinema where they see the original version, if not, ill just have to wait a month to see it (grrr).
Burton, in remaking "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory", has made THE best film of the year and a children's classic. Period. By adapting the book and not just blandly remaking the older film (see: Bad News Bears) Tim Burton has created something that can stand next to the original as a classic. Johnny Depp is amazingly good, but when is he not? The music is much better and there is obviously more creativity present in the numbers (and in just about EVERYTHING). I dare Hollywood to release something this good later this year. I simply loved this movie, not in the sense that I love "Pulp Fiction", "The Godfather", or "Do the Right Thing". It's a love similair to what I felt for the original film when I saw it as a child so long ago. This is the love that fuels my fascination for film. For a second there, I thought the barrage of remakes and comic book franchises put the fire in my heart out.
Burton started out strong("Beetlejuise", "Scissorhands", "Pee-Wee"), but his work over the last decade has been spotty at best. "Big Fish" was promising, and his "Willy Wonka" seems to work pretty well, but it's hard to forget things like "Planet of the Apes" or "Mars Attacks".
Well, I just saw Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in a little cinema in the South of France (it was the only cinema in Marseille where they showed it in English) and I have to say I was not disappointed. From the amazing opening titles, you know Tim Burton (and Danny Elfman for that matter) has got his touch back. I personnally love the original, mostly because of the unforgettable songs and Gene Wilder. But I must say this version blew me away and had a far better ending. The Oompa Loompas rock, Johnny Depp is, unsurprisingly, brilliant, and the whole thing looks wonderfully weird. It's definitely Tim Burton's best work in a while: forget Big Fish, this is the film to see! I was smiling from start to finish in front of a film that's way more fun than any film I've seen this year. Kids'll love it, adults too. Oh, and I like Mars Attacks. By the way, does the ending of Planet of the Apes make any sense? I'm not so sure...Still, Paul Giamatti, Tim Roth and Bonham Carter were good in it, weren't they? And the score was cool. Not to mention the make up effects. So it wasnt all bad then, I mean, when you think about it.
I'm with Edward on Mars Attacks. A lot of people had issues with the movie, but its a pretty cut and dry idea, the MOVIE is the joke, not so much the tiny details being funny. That made it all the more hilarious for some of us, but I can see why one might not enjoy it.
My idea is that Mars Attacks! should have been much better. The opening scenes with the cattle were trippy, and the opening titles were cool, but when the movie came back, it was sloppy and slapdash. However, I want to make it clear that I thought the movie still had a relatively high level of wit, and that when the "Ack Ack" Aliens showed, it turned the flick into a great horror film. The Alien in the White House and Slim Whitman/Tom Jones are also worth several thumbs up! Good fortune to you if you have any Mars Attacks! trading cards.
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Posts: 12874 | Location: Behind the Orange Curtain | Registered: 14 May 2004
Mars Attacks! is all about fun and every time I watch it I know I'm very entertained from start to finish. But I can see, sort of, why people were a bit disappointed by it. Lets just say it's not Burton's best but it's not his worst either. It's a film that's always tongue-in-cheek and shouldn't be taken too seriously.
Hey, did anyone hear Paul Reubens is putting the finishing touches on a new Pee-Wee script? Wonder if Tim will direct.... I wanted to further discuss Paul Reubens and I'm debating starting a new topic on him. Mostly, will you guys forgive him? And secondly, is he guilty of the charges?
In my opinion, I think both of the cases (indecent exposure and posession of kiddie porn) were media exploits and didn't have a grain of truth between them. And will I forgive Paul Ruebens? Of course! The mans a genius, and I love Pee-Wee.
Aaaah Pee-Wee. Yeah, I heard about Paul working on a new Pee-Wee script, if Burton directs it it could be a hilarious come back. If he doesn't, it might not be that good. Remember he didn't direct Pee-Wee Big Top and the film was nowhere as good as Big Adventure (if still good fun). I opened a topic on Paul Reubens a while ago and truthully I have no idea what the crap happened to it, maybe it's still there, lurking in the shadows of the Metacritic boards... As for forgiving Paul, yeah, definitely. The indecent exposure thing was a stupid thing to do but it's not like he was hurting anyone was it? Do you remember that police picture they took of him when he was arrested? God, he was unrecognisable! As for the other thing, he was cleared of the charges and it was a mistake by the police I think. Paul Reubens is definitely a genius, as you've said, and it's a shame he didn't appear in more stuff after Pee-Wee. (You should check out Mystery Men, if you haven't seen it yet). "I know you are but what am I??"
The Corpse Bride coming out in October has all the hallmarks of his earlier stop-action movies such as "James and the Giant Peach" (1996) and "The Nightmare Before Christmas" (1993) that he produced yet with more of storyline reminiscent of Edward Scissorhands (1990) and even Beetlejuice (1988). The trailers capture that same darkness zaniness and humor with Beetlejuice images of after death comic gore. The emphasis on a love story is more along the lines of Edward Scissorhands, though the odd character in this case is the bride not the man as with Scissorhands. How the relationship will unfold will be a challenge.
Posts: 913 | Location: Utah, United States | Registered: 22 July 2005
The trailers for The Corpse Bride look very promising indeed. And we haven't even heard Danny Elfman's music that will feature in it! I'm personally really excited about this movie as The Nightmare Before Christmas is my favourite animated film. Of course, I know it probably won't be quite as good as the latter but I have faith in Tim Burton and I believe we will be witnessing another brilliant creation from the Movie Magician in October.