Rob Schneider, probably the most obnoxious little actors out there has gotten his official beat down by a critic named Patrick Goldstein. Goldstein referred to Deuce as a "Third-Rate Actor." Rob, however, was so pissed that he publish ed an entire page in the Hollywood Reporter. check this out though guys. I REALLY need someone elses opinion. Rob used to give off the vibe of a man okay with his bad acting. Now I'm of the opinion he wasn't aware, and can't shake off the comments he MUST have seen coming on his crappy movies. Anyone?

I never liked him. Never seen any of his movies. Some people like him. He keeps making movies. And there are people willing to buy a ticket to watch his stuff. I don't mind low brow movies. But there is a limit.
Donna A.

Not funny, he's decent as a forgettable character in horribly forgettable Adam Sandler movies like Big Daddy, but he's nothing special either as a real or comedic actor.

We have to admit that critics spend most of their time writing about what’s wrong with movies… and more so about the people behind them (after all, somebody has to take the blame). I think we, as the general public, just think that a part of the job of being an actor is to take criticism in stride. Well, Rob Schneider chose not to take it lightly. He took offense to someone personally attacking him… and he retaliated.

I imagine anybody here would take offense if I personally attacked them in this forum… his grammar is horrendous… her point was convoluted… he uses too many ellipses… ;-)

I think it was a smart marketing move on Rob’s part. If he was really all that forgettable of an actor… we’re sure talking about him now. Yup, we’re just pawns in Rob’s grand plan… bravo, Mr. Schneider. Bravo.

I agree with you there. Everyone has the right to defend themselves.
Donna A.

I agree that Rob Schneider isn't a great actor, but I must admit I thought he was pretty funny in 50 First Dates. That said, I don't think anything very useful can come from this. If anything, I think it may generate some interest in the movie and the review alike. Personally, my favorite Schneider character was Rich in the Copy Room on SNL.

In response to Cody: I may not be a smart man, but I know when someone is attacking me. However, you did it with such wit, that I can't help but laugh it off.

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In response to Cody: I may not be a smart man, but I know when someone is attacking me. However, you did it with such wit, that I can't help but laugh it off.

Interesting… because I wasn’t intentionally attacking anyone in particular. I was, however, attacking the point you were making. That is entirely different.

To avoid any misunderstandings I’ll attack myself to prove my point…

Let’s say that I created a drawing. Then someone critiqued it. They could say, “I don’t like your drawing, Cody.” However, they could also say, “Cody, you are a terrible artist.” These two statements are completely different, but it is rare nowadays for critics to draw a clear line between the two targets. I can easily deal with someone not liking a piece of art that I created, but I think I would take offense if they attacked me personally.

Goldstein chose to attack Rob Schneider directly… not the performance he gave in his latest movie.

Oh dear, I'm sorry Cody. I'm just so used to being told how terrible my spelling and grammar is. To be quite frank, its not my strong side. Understanding points apparently isn't either. Now I gotcha though, and I DO agree with you. I just have to bring up a good ol' screechy comedian in this instance: Gilbert Godfreid (spelling?), this man puts up with such horrible attacks from critics. However,being called "the most annoying comedian ever" hasn't really bothered him and he takes it all in stride. I like that.

I personally agree with the critic, Schneider is a terrible actor. He has pretty much piggy-backed off of Adam Sandler as of late and lead in a couple terrible movies.

I think that Rob had the right to "Defend himself," but I doubt that it was needed, It really shows his intelligence, or lack there of. Rob is a millionare who doesn't have to listen or even care what some critic says about him. Who cares if someone says that you are a "Third Rate Actor?" He basically just added fuel to the fire that would have burned out on its own.

I just watched Rob Schneider on The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch. Rob Schneider is a comedian first. Love him or hate him, he is a comedian. Everybody knows the Richmeister from SNL.

Rob Schneider is quite an intelligent man. I was impressed by his outlook on comedy films. His films aren’t focused on what others might think… he and his friends write up stuff that makes them laugh. He figures that if he’s laughing… others might laugh too. This is opposed to the other spectrum of comedies in which lines are delivered with a specific target audience in mind. He doesn’t dispute the other way of comedic writing. He simply enjoys a good laugh and wants to share those particular scenarios with others.

Rob also made some interesting points regarding being in Adam Sandler’s movies. He said that Adam always gives him some ethnic character that delivers his lines when he’s getting angry… and I have to agree. It’s true. You can blame Sandler for Schneider’s repetitive characters, if you want, but I’m sure Sandler is just making up characters that he thinks are funny… like what Rob Schneider does.

And as for piggy-backing off of Sandler movies… well, the two were good friends even before SNL. All I have to say is… what are friends for? ;-)

Anyway, Goldstein obviously doesn’t like Rob Schneider… and that’s okay, but calling Rob Schneider a third-rate actor isn’t very clever. Those kinds of comments sound like a critic who got too tired to write an intelligent commentary on what he felt was wrong with Hollywood.

I think Goldstein’s comments and Schneider’s retaliation only increases people’s preexisting feelings. If you hated Rob before, you’d say “That guy is so annoying. Why can’t he take criticism like a man? I hate him.” Or you might be a fan of Rob and say “Yeah, man! Way to go Rob! Don’t take shit from anyone! Yeah!”

This incident doesn’t change anything. It’s only giving more press to Schneider and Goldstein; both good and bad… and in Hollywood, apparently, any press is good press. ;-)

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Well, if 'Deuce Bigelow', 'The Animal' and 'The Hot Chick' are what Rob Schneider finds funny, then his sense of humor is one that is not only virtually identical to the lowest of lowest common denomonators, it's one you wouldn't expect to find in a man who's old enough to have gone through puberty.

I'd almost respect him more if he were just a sellout. And the most telling thing about what Hollywood thinks of Rob Schneider is that the best actress he could find to co-star with him in 'The Animal' was Colleen Haskell, known for...being naive on the original Survivor, and that's about it.

If Schneider's sense of humor is represented by his movies, then his sense of humor is comprised of predictable physical comedy and dick jokes.

My reaction when I saw the first add for Deuce Bigelow 2 is like "My god...Hollywood will make a sequel to ANYTHING! Except the things that really need sequels!" This critic seems to echo that sentiment. And if Schneider responded to every critic who ever thrashed one of his movies, he'd be a professional writer.

SNL has always created celebrities, but it used to be people who *deserved* to be celebrities. Yesterday's Chris Rock, Phil Hartman, Dan Ackroyd, and Bill Murray have been replaced by the likes of Jimmy Fallon and Will Ferrell. Rob Schneider was ahead of his time, in that sense. He's just another comedian who got a lucky break by getting on the SNL cast and coasted on those merits for the rest of his career.

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SNL has always created celebrities, but it used to be people who *deserved* to be celebrities. Yesterday's Chris Rock, Phil Hartman, Dan Ackroyd, and Bill Murray have been replaced by the likes of Jimmy Fallon and Will Ferrell.

I'm not sticking up for Rob Schneider, but Will Ferrell deserves to be a star. The man is hilarious in anything. Of recent SNL alums, Ferrell is the only person I see having long term Bill Murray kind of success.

On the other hand, I wouldn't say Dan Ackroyd has had a standout career. Of the few movies he's been in that I can remotely stand, it's usually other actors carrying the movie.

Will Farrel is a great comedian, but I'm not sure he has the range Bill Murray does, so his options may become limited later if he ever wants to pursue other types of movies other than what can be called "stupid comedies", not that there's anything wrong with "stupid comedies".

Rob Schneider is occasionally kind of funny, but it's always about the lowest form of humor you can possibly get. I think its pretty dumb that hes in like every single adam sandler movie. Adam sandler and his crew (there are a few more of em that nobody knows the names of) arent nearly as funny as the wilson bros./will ferrell/vince vaughn/ben stiller crew.

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SNL has always created celebrities, but it used to be people who *deserved* to be celebrities. Yesterday's Chris Rock, Phil Hartman, Dan Ackroyd, and Bill Murray have been replaced by the likes of Jimmy Fallon and Will Ferrell.

If Jimmy Fallon is considered a celebrity, the term is being used very loosely. The last two movies he was in were Fever Pitch and Taxi, and I double dog dare someone to name one memorable film he's been in.

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