Why do you feel the need to be "loyal" to a band that no longer is "loyal" to their fans.

Metallica was the first band I ever loved really, but these guys stopped caring about what they were doing and decided to make their music the marketing. Honestly, the more I listen to Metallica, the less I enjoy them, even some of the older stuff feels extremely dated now.

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Originally posted by Duncan Black:
St Anger was a massive let down for me. What are the appealing factors in that record?

Hopefully, the next album can’t get any worse?

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Originally posted by Duncan Black:
I'm a guitarist myself and when you play something like the riff from 'Master of Puppets' in the same way as Metallica (all down strokes), it actually hurts. They really pound the guitars.

Bloody oath. I can’t play Master of Puppets using downstrokes only for very long. I think Kirk has had issues with RSI in the past; it wouldn’t surprise me if both James and Kirk’s wrists are all fucked up.

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Originally posted by Duncan Black:
On St Anger there wasn't the same brutality. It was much more lazy. From the comments on the DVD they said they were trying to recapture the sound of a band forming in a garage and the premise fell short of the mark. This was simply due to the fact that they obviously weren't a band meeting for the first time. If you've got all the latest recording equipment and a shit hot producer - why not use those things? Trying to sound 'lo-fi' seemed a bit futile.

I think some of the riffs on St. Anger are catchy. I honestly believe that there is always a place for any riff and that any riff can be turned or incorporated into a good, well written song, if the artist is willing to put some time and effort into it. When I listen to St. Anger, all I hear is a whole lot of squandered opportunity, for example: Potentially catchy riffs overly played out that go nowhere. Second guitarist playing the same played out riffs, instead of adding guitar harmonies. Complete lack of soloing. Etc.

I don’t buy into “INSERT BAND is dead”. People who say shit like that are fanboys of a different era or genre. Until Metallica are literally dead or physically incapable of writing/performing, nothing is absolute. I wouldn’t stake my life either way, maybe they will make another great album, and maybe they won’t.

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Originally posted by El J'Shed:
I don’t buy into “INSERT BAND is dead”. People who say shit like that are fanboys of a different era or genre. Until Metallica are literally dead or physically incapable of writing/performing, nothing is absolute. I wouldn’t stake my life either way, maybe they will make another great album, and maybe they won’t.

Maybe my comments on that issue did resemble Obi Wan Kenobi!

'Metallica were seduced by the dark side of the force. When they gave in and became Darth Vader, the band that was Metallica died. So what I told you was true - from a certain point of view'

In truth, I am waiting for Rick Rubin to sprinkle some magic come-back dust on the band. If Rick can't save them, no-one can! He is the Luke Skywalker to their Darth Vader.

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Originally posted by Duncan Black:
'Metallica were seduced by the dark side of the force. When they gave in and became Darth Vader, the band that was Metallica died. So what I told you was true - from a certain point of view'

Touché, Duncan

Star Wars... Is there anything it can’t do?

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Originally posted by El J'Shed:
Touché, Duncan

Star Wars... Is there anything it can’t do?

It can't drink 4 cans of 'monster-get-pissed-fast' lager. I've tried having a night in with the DVD and it failed all the drinking games.

Hetfield and co have the edge on Star Wars in that respect.

Seriously, what the hell happened with that snare sound?!

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Originally posted by Love Machine:
Seriously, what the hell happened with that snare sound?

That is a good question. At least the snare does not detour from the fact that the songs are good.

Sorry to rake up this volatile subject, but I was thinking about this album today (God knows why). Maybe I'm the only person who sees some sort of cruel irony in the fact that James Hetfield sings the lines -

St Anger 'round my neck
He never gets respect

A metaphor for an albatross and a prediction of what the general public would make of the album. In years to come, those lyrics will sum up the whole bloody record!