The sad truth is...

(deep breath)

...I have a secret stash of morally bankrupt metal albums!

I can't hide it any longer. Shout At the Devil is an impossibly fun record. I also own at least 5 albums by WASP, amongst many other trashy releases. I view these albums like low budget horror films with lots of gore and bad acting. Thoroughly unpleasant, but lots of fun.

However, the award for sleaziest, dumbest and most tasteless album has to go to -

Zodiac Mindwarp & The Love Reaction -
'Tattooed Beat Messiah'

Total genius and wins my vote for the sleaziest album of all time. If you don't own it - find it, buy it, get drunk to it, jump around to it and throw up to it (presumably when everyone else is out of the house). It's the perfect soundtrack to an evening spent drinking toilet duck. Hugely entertaining stuff.

However, as I have openly confessed a few of my metallic sins, I now throw the gauntlet to you -

What are your guilty pleasures of Metal?

Are there any brave Winger fans out there? Maybe you love the polished tones of Def Leppard.

Confess and be absolved!

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Good topic, again.

My sins are but few within the realm of metal. I had forgot all about WASP. Confession below.

WASP - it was yellow and had Mean Man on it I think.

Def Lep - Hysteria
Dio - Out Come the Wolves
Bang Tango. yeah............

Well, TBH, that last one is too painful to allow me to continue digging any further. There wouldn't be too many more anyways.

If it was a yellow WASP album, that would almost certainly be The Last Command - not one of WASP's better efforts, but worthy of attention for the track Blind in Texas.

However the inclusion of Mean Man, suggests it was the album Headless Children - a misguided if thoroughly entertaining work. It was quite an underrated release and featured a passionate, if inferior cover version of The Who's The Real Me . Sadly however, it also marked the beginning of Mr Lawless' descent into 'serious political material', which would later vomit up a dreadful concept album called The Crimson Idol (at least I think that is the title).

WASP have since tried to re-capture their glory days and it has to be said that Blackie Lawless is now more offensive for his beer gut and fashion-defying spandex trousers than throwing raw meat at the audience.

Interesting trivia - Blackie Lawless used to have an exploding codpiece with a chainsaw blade attached to the front. One night it backfired with hilarious consequences.

Well done for owning up to Def Leppard. I have tried REALLY hard to hate that album, but there's something about it that is impossibly likeable.

Uh-oh.... I have to admit liking pretty much every Motley Crue album, plus Poison thrown in as well (don`t shoot! *L*) Pyromania and Hysteria were favs of mine growing up. White Lion, still have a tape or two floating around. Uh...I actually bought Slash`s Snakepit`s album....*cough*....Kix, had a Kix album as a kid...still have Twisted Sister on vinyl...and not a good album either (cant remember the name right now, though)....yeah, enough confessions for me right now *L*)

Every Motley Crue album?!! Surely not the ones with John Whatshisname? on vocals as well? (was his second name Corabi or something?)

Pyromania was a pretty solid release and representative of the lighter end of the NWOBHM - a less guilty pleasure. You could even say Twisted Sister have been fun at times. Dee Snider certainly won some respect in his battle with the PMRC.

However I am unfamiliar with Kix. I remember reading the name and deciding to avoid them. I could be wrong. If there's a youtube link feel free to post it...

...unless you think I'll have to have my buttocks surgically unclenched after watching it.

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Originally posted by Duncan Black:
Every Motley Crue album?!! Surely not the ones with John Whatshisname? on vocals as well? (was his second name Corabi or something?)

Pyromania was a pretty solid release and representative of the lighter end of the NWOBHM - a less guilty pleasure. You could even say Twisted Sister have been fun at times. Dee Snider certainly won some respect in his battle with the PMRC.

However I am unfamiliar with Kix. I remember reading the name and deciding to avoid them. I could be wrong. If there's a youtube link feel free to post it...

...unless you think I'll have to have my buttocks surgically unclenched after watching it.

John Corabi, man...he got fucked over by the band and the label, but I always thought he was a decent singer. Vince Neil's a fat waster anyway *L*...uh...Kix...you really, really don't want that....but now you've piqued my curiosity about whether they're on YouTube or not...damn you....

BAHAHAHAHAHA THEY ARE!!!!!
Kix! *L*
I'm sorry!

These guys aren't metal, nor do I feel guilty about LOVING them, but Alien Ant Farm fucking rule. Ya, the guys who did "Smooth Criminal." Listen to these tracks and try to tell me they're not an awesome alt rock band:

"Courage"
"Attitude"
"Death Day"
"Summer"
"Flesh and Bone"

DO IT!

ha ha ha, KIX - I knew a dude at school that liked KIX. He also liked all other manner of hair bands.

Shout at the Devil is a pretty great recording, as also *cough* Too Fast for Love. It was that whole smokin in the boys room that lost me with them, that and the fact they were looking more like chicks and playing wussy music. IMHO.

Ahhh, I did have a Skid Row disk, a couple - the first and the the one after with monkey business on it. I went to see them live and they were doing that second album tour, the opening act was Pantera - Vulgar Display had *just* come out and they still had the cowboys from hell banner up when they played!

At no time would I think that putting anything that explodes over the codsack. Who was that for? the gals?....or the...guy???

I'm not sure if it served any purpose at all, other than to offend people (mission accomplished).

The chainsaw blade was obviously designed to strike fear into the hearts of young women. I suppose Blackie put fireworks in it to suggest that his manhood was an explosion of hot-sex. Unfortunately for Mr Lawless, this was an all too real proposition. I would have loved to have seen him talking to the doctor afterwards -

'Oh dear Mr Lawless we have been a silly boy haven't we? - Just remove the plastic chainsaw and plonk your charred genitals on the table. Nurse! Fetch me some ointment and a threatening looking surgical implement. Try to relax - this won't hurt a bit...'

I wonder if it wasn't in fact a warning saying - 'hey, I've got siphillis and after you get it on with me it's gonna feel like razors when you pee'

Checked out a couple of your tunes Duncan, pretty good stuff. I do alot of recording at home alone, lately I'm in a creative slump - nothing sounds good. Going to have to sit down and practice alot more than what I have the past couple of years. Mulling over if I should go and take a couple lessons, never have done that so it might not bne bad, I feel like my playing just isn't where I'd like it to be. Here's some stuff I recorded last year - wickerman

I'm no singer, but was tired of doing instrumentals, so I started trying to sing. Trying is the key word.

I checked out your stuff. Maybe you're a little too hard on yourself! From your description I was expecting something very amatuerish, but you've got something going on there.

The harmonic squeels are particularly good. Very 'Zack Wylde' in a good way!

Could Megadeth be listed as a guilty pleasure?

I really like them, but I am fully aware that most other people think they sound dreadful.

I met Dave Mustaine once and he was a horrid person. I didn't buy or listen to any of his records for 5 or 6 years after that. Then I found Peace Sells in a bargain bin and couldn't resist some forbidden nostalgia...

Owing to the bands' massive record sales, I feel I am in good company.

Thanks for the kind words, there's still lots of room for improvement. Some newer stuff is sounding fairly good, I'll share when I get to a point worth sharing.

Megadeth is NOT a guilty pleasure - it's a mandated requirement. Of course we have to break this up like Metallica - everything up until Cryptic Writings is really good, CR and beyond is not very good IMHO - there are exceptions though. I've heard many stories about how Dave is an arse. To date my fav song is Good Mourning / Black Friday.

A guilty pleasure would be digging the old Anthrax / Public Enemy - 'I'm the Man' .........

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Originally posted by Plan 9:
Thanks for the kind words, there's still lots of room for improvement. Some newer stuff is sounding fairly good, I'll share when I get to a point worth sharing.

Megadeth is NOT a guilty pleasure - it's a mandated requirement. Of course we have to break this up like Metallica - everything up until Cryptic Writings is really good, CR and beyond is not very good IMHO - there are exceptions though. I've heard many stories about how Dave is an arse. To date my fav song is Good Mourning / Black Friday.

A guilty pleasure would be digging the old Anthrax / Public Enemy - 'I'm the Man' .........

Wasn't that anthrax record called Bring the Noise? I have I'm the Man too, but Public Enemy only appeared on the re-recording (or at least Chuck D did).

I digress - that's a fucking GREAT record. No embarrassment there!

Totally agree on Good Mourning/Black Friday. The riffs are pure adrenaline. Dave really spits the vocals out with true bile - 'I hack up my victims like pieces of meat'.

If he wasn't such a horrid person, that record wouldn't sound so good. The only bit I'd edit out is the What the Fuck is this? line (cringe), but other than that it's classic Megadeth.

I'd argue that Peace Sells is the best album, but I'm a grumpy old git who was around when that stuff was unpopular.

I thought the song was Bring the Noise and the EP was I'm the Man. Oh you know what - the original did not have that - it was when Attack of the Killer B's came out that it went big in N.A.

Man, EP's were sure the thing back then, you know - in between albums an EP was such a cool thing to get. That's been replaced with feat. nowadays.

Peace Sells is a damn good disk, it's a toss up for me between that, RiP and Youthanasia.

I got another, RATT. Man I loved me some Ratt back in the day.

"you take the midnight subway train
you're calling all the shots
you're struck by lightning
(whoosh sound)
you're in love"

I never got to grips with Ratt. There was just something about them that seemed... unwell.

I think I'd discovered death metal by then, so Ratt would have been world's away from my interests at that point. If I am missing something feel free to point it out.

I digress - I recently found another guilty metal pleasure, although it's not a band or an album. Did anyone enjoy the film Trick or Treat? It's a horror movie about a dead metal singer who is resurrected through a backwards message on a record and features cameo roles from Ozzy Osbourne and Gene Simmons. As far as I'm concerned it's one of the great underrated movies of the 80s and wipes the floor with overhyped mainstream films like The Lost Boys. For my sins, I even bought the soundtrack album (with backwards messages), although it hasn't aged very well at all.

Trick or Treat...I kinda remember that movie. Don't recall too much about that. Sure I saw it though. Remember 'Shocker'?

The early Ratt was good, stuff like 'I'm Insane' and 'Wanted Man'...even 'Round and Round' were good tunes IMO. They were the heaviest I was into back in say...84-85 before I heard Ride the Lightning and became a hooligan troublemaker.

I do indeed recall Shocker. It wasn't one of Wes Craven's better efforts, but the subject matter made a perfect backing for a thrash metal soundtrack.

I still have Megadeth's cover of No More Mr Nice Guy on cassette single. The shame!