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Originally posted by Maximum Jack:

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Originally posted by Borachon:
I wouldn't force myself to believe I enjoyed an album more just because it had been influential.

Neither would I, I think the White Album blows, that doesn't mean I don't think it is monumentally more important and better than most of my favorite albums.

I wasn't suggesting you only liked albums because you thought you should, but I don't understand why you think an album is "better" than one of your favourites, just because it's important or influential.

For example Trout Mask Replica is always being touted as a masterpiece by contemporary artists, but I think it's pretentious, unlistenable, nonsense. It most definitely is not better than any of my favourite albums, no matter how influential it may have been.

I would agree with you, but each person will have their own individual lists about which ones are on which side of the Crap Line. It's not ALL black and white. At least I don't think so.

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Originally posted by Borachon:
It most definitely is not better than any of my favourite albums, no matter how influential it may have been.

That's really the point of contention then. I think, if you (or a group of people) are compiling a list of the greatest anythings and putting said list in an order, then there has to be some sort of criteria used to put the list in that order. We've already agreed that taste is subjective, therefore there has to be something a little more tangible the listmakers can use in order to compare the items. I happen to think, when it comes to albums, the most important factor is influence. You apparently do not. We'll agree to disagree.

I don’t really mind if people like the Undertones' debut more than other debuts. I like it a lot as well but I was just saying that since there seemed to be a lot of Monkey bashing, I wanted to chime in that I personally love their music.

By the way, I think The Beatles (White Album) blows as well, then again The Beatles as a band, blow.

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Originally posted by FragileKidA:

By the way, I think The Beatles (White Album) blows as well, then again The Beatles as a band, blow.

I think you're mistaken. None of them play woodwinds or brass instruments. There are two guitars and a bass, and some drums. No actual blowing going on.