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Originally posted by St. Mike:

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In the Court of the Crimson King

Nice pick.

So epic.

Good picks!

Here's a couple I haven't seen mentioned yet...

Attilio Mineo - Man in Space with Sounds (1962)
Charles Mingus - Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (1963)
Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity (1964)
The Fugs - Virgin Fugs (1965)
Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band - Safe As Milk (1967) or Trout Mask Replica (1969)
The Deviants - Ptooff! (1967)
Holy Modal Rounders - Indian War Whoop (1967)
The Who - The Who Sell Out (1968)
Don Cherry - Mu
Nico - The Marble Index (1969)

I reinforce these recs too: Moondog, Silver Apples, Moby Grape

Here's a quick list from me. Nothing earth-shattering here, but the 60s is probably the decade I'm the least familiar with over the last 50 years.

1. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
2. Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home
3. The Beatles - Abbey Road
4. Miles Davis - In A Silent Way
5. The Kinks - The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society
6. Love - Forever Changes
7. Neil Young - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
8. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
9. The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed
10. Nick Drake - FIve Leaves Left

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Originally posted by odysseyandoracle:
I got burned out on a lot of the standard stuff in high school. But here are some favorites, in no particular order except for the first two.

1. I'm just going to cheat and say everything original The Zombies recorded. It's only a couple CDs, anyway.

I have O & O, what else should I get?

Been linstening to a shitload of music from the 60's over the last month, really enjoying stuff like The Beatles, The Zombies,Love etc.

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Originally posted by Turenne:
I have O & O, what else should I get?

Been linstening to a shitload of music from the 60's over the last month, really enjoying stuff like The Beatles, The Zombies,Love etc.

A slightly more complicated answer than it needs to be, but it's simple if you don't mind acting in less than legal ways!

1. I'm not sure what version of O&O you have, but there is one floating around that has a whopping 16 bonus tracks, much of it stuff recorded after O&O that was never given proper release. It's all phenomenal, mostly of the same quality as that album. I have no idea how one could purchase this (Ebay?) and I imagine it's pretty expensive, but it's out there on the internet. Note that this is not the same thing as the recent release with the mono and stereo mixes.

Just dug around on Amazon, and I believe that this might be what I'm referring to.

2. Other than that you need a compilation of their pre-O&O singles. For whatever reason there are several albums titled "The Singles A's & B's," but I recommend this one as it has zero overlap with O&O (and very little with the bonus tracks cited above) and almost all of the tracks are originals. This is probably hard to find in a store but again, it is available in the subterranean regions of the internet.

If you have trouble finding these (it's been a few years), let me know in the "other" thread and I'll up 'em there. They have such a warped release history, it's really about time someone released a proper complete discography given that it wouldn't be more than a few discs.

Besides that, you might be interested in some of Colin Blunstone's (singer) early solo material which I unfortunately no longer have. Then there is also the band Argent, but there I would definitely stick to just the first album, as it's the only one that sounds particularly Zombie-ish. Unfortunately it is still not even close to Zombies caliber.

it blows my mind how you can like an amazing band like the zombies and also like miley cyrus.

It's all one long song, isn't it?

The way I approach music works like this: it's always, 100% of the time better to like something than it is to not like it. Doesn't matter what it is, you have a lot to gain and nothing to lose by "getting" something. So I try my best with everything I hear to figure out and to listen to what's good about it, because there's good in almost everything. If people like something, there must be a reason, and most of the time that reason is not that they're deluded or deceived, especially if that artist has extended success (if Katy Perry gets another top 10 hit I'll eat my head).

Wait, people haven't heard of the 13th Floor Elevators?

I can't possibly do a top 10, but it would probably have some of the usual suspects (Sgt. Peppers, Pet Sounds, White Light/White Heat, Monster Movie, VU & Nico, Revolver, The Stooges, etc. and so forth.

Has anyone mentioned Zappa yet? I didn't read all the posts, but think he should be on here.

Oh, and Piper at the Gates, i hope someone mentioned that already, along with Blue Cheer, MC5, the Sonics, The Kinks, and on and on and on.

Oh, and Incredible String Band, Cream, Hendrix, Zeppelin (duh), the Who, Neil Young, the Zombies, Count Five, Electric Prunes.

odessey, in terms of current music, i disagree. if hannah montana wasnt on disney channel, she would have no fans. her fans like her persona, not the music.

A lot of people say things like that, but I'm not sure they think through what it means. Hannah Montana fans are buying her albums and listening to them, repeatedly - just look at last.fm, for the most part hardly the HM demographic. Are these people just fooling themselves, convincing themselves that they like it just because they like the show, or her persona, or whatever? They're kids, but so what? Do you really think that they're just being brainwashed into liking it by the Disney juggernaut? Were you that susceptible to marketing when you were a kid?

I remember what I liked when I was that young (Bush, Silverchair, etc.), and I remember why I liked it. If I go back and listen to them now I can point out exactly what I liked and why I liked it. I don't like it much now, but I don't think I was being fooled or that I didn't know any better back then. It's just that what I'm looking for from music has changed - expanded in some ways and contracted in others, hopefully more of the former than the latter. The point of this is that it's my sincere belief that most people genuinely enjoy the music they listen to, that they listen to it because it gives them what they want. If you can understand what they want then you can enjoy it too.

The other problem with this line of arguing is that, as I've pointed out in other threads, far more of these marketing creations fail than succeed. Seriously, how many child/teen actors do you think Disney employs as regulars? It's gotta be at least a few dozen. It seems like every single one of them has an album. It's ridiculous. And yes, Disney does promote the hell out of them, and this has been going on for long before Miley Cyrus came around. Not to mention musical careers by celebrities like Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan or Eddie Murphy that turned out to be flops - and these people were already famous beforehand!

Here's my take on it: Miley Cyrus can genuinely sing (or, if you want to get fussy, the voice that is presented as hers is pretty good). I know the whole kind of throaty thing doesn't work for everyone, but as far as I'm concerned she sounds like a 15 year old Stevie Nicks. Stevie Nicks is one of my favorite vocalists, so that's not a bad thing for me. I think that she will be around for a long time, and I hope she becomes a great singer as she matures - not all kids who can sing do.

The albums have sold and Hannah Montana as music and not just TV has become huge on the strength of some really great singles - seriously, I don't know anyone who isn't willing to admit when pressed that "See You Again" just kicks ass (bolstering my theory that songs that incorporate stuttering are universally good, but that's another story). There's no doubt that there's filler, but when it's good it's really really good. As long as they keep that up, she isn't going to turn out to be a trend or just limited to a certain demographic.

This has turned out to be a long and very off-topic post. But it's an interesting topic for me, what makes people like the music they like.

i am a "kid", im 15. little girls (75% of mileys fans) like hannah montana because shes popular. no other reason. thats cool idf you enjoy the music man, i just dont see how its possible (ive listened to a few of her song, they are god awful).

Thanks for A's & B's Singles O&O.

Listening to a lot of stuff from the 60's right now and have gotten a lot of the obvious stuff -Beatles, Hendrix, Zombies, Love, Miles Davis, Dylan, Zappa, Beach Boys etc. Anyone want to suggest what I should go for next from that decade, particurly stuff similar to The Beatles and The Zombies?

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Thanks for A's & B's Singles O&O.

Listening to a lot of stuff from the 60's right now and have gotten a lot of the obvious stuff -Beatles, Hendrix, Zombies, Love, Miles Davis, Dylan, Zappa, Beach Boys etc. Anyone want to suggest what I should go for next from that decade, particurly stuff similar to The Beatles and The Zombies?

No prob. Definitely, definitely check out The Left Banke. They were sort of like the poor man's Zombies, which is not at all a bad thing to be. You might also want to check out Serge Gainsbourg's 60s material, along with some other French pop stuff that I'm not terribly knowledgeable about; Francoise Hardy maybe?

There is a very nice album in this same vein by a female singer-songwriter of the time that you might like, but all details of it completely escape me at the moment. It's one of those "forgotten albums" that have been revived in the last few years...first song might have been called "Sunday Morning" or something like that. This is going to kill me, can anyone help me out here?

Ah, found it! Margo Guryan, Take a Picture. Really cool stuff, one of those cases with one album before completely vanishing into the ether.

Much appreciated O & O, got the Margo Guryan album, sounds nice if a little twee.

Anyone/anything else?

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Good picks!

Here's a couple I haven't seen mentioned yet...

Attilio Mineo - Man in Space with Sounds (1962)
Charles Mingus - Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (1963)
Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity (1964)
The Fugs - Virgin Fugs (1965)
Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band - Safe As Milk (1967) or Trout Mask Replica (1969)
The Deviants - Ptooff! (1967)
Holy Modal Rounders - Indian War Whoop (1967)
The Who - The Who Sell Out (1968)
Don Cherry - Mu
Nico - The Marble Index (1969)

I reinforce these recs too: Moondog, Silver Apples, Moby Grape

I would agree with all of those, surprising I haven't seen Beefheart or Charles Mingus more often.

A few more albums I don't imagine have been mentioned too many times yet:

Gal Costa- Gal
Os Mutantes- Os Mutantes
Joe Meek- I Hear a New World
Red Krayola- Parable of Arable Land
Cecil Taylor- Unit Structures
Leonard Cohen- Songs of Leonard Cohen
Frank Zappa- Uncle Meat
Tim Buckley- Happy Sad
Tim Buckley- Blue Afternoon
Dr. John- Gris Gris
John Fahey- Transfiguration of Blind Joe Death
Cro-Magnon- Orgasm
United States of America- S/t
The Sonics- Here are the Sonics
Amon Duul II- Phallus Dei
Van Dyke Parks- Song Cycle
Caetano Veloso- Caetano Veloso
Fairport Convention= Liege and Lief
Terry Riley- Rainbow in Curved Air
The Pentangle- Basket of Light

What's Pentangle like?

For some reason I expect it to be like Fairport Convention...

Yeah, they're pretty much from the same scene. English progressive folk I suppose. Not incredibly original, but very good nonetheless.

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What's Pentangle like?

For some reason I expect it to be like Fairport Convention...

Sort of, sort of not. Most people who like one will like the other, but they don't really sound all that much alike. Briefly, Pentangle is mostly acoustic and closer to the original tunes, but also a jazzy rhythm section.

I like to imagine it as sort of a spectrum, with Pentangle being on one end, Steeleye Span (what a great and underrated band! but not useful for the purposes of this thread) on the other, and Fairport Convention somewhere in between.

Speaking of which, if Anne Briggs had released a proper album in the 60s I'd throw her into this discussion too. Very much worth checking out for fans of the above bands.

Well there you go.

I'll have to check out Anne Briggs and Steeleye Span though, I haven't heard of them.