I set up this discussion because I want to see what people think about this year's awards. In my opinion, this could be the worst year the show has ever seen. Not necessarily due to the nominations (Kanye West and Amy Winehouse shall dominate), but as to how they took away more than ten categories and added some overall horrible ones. Plus, some categories received more nods than others. With all of that and more to criticize, here are the nominees in case anyone is interested:

Video of the Year
1. Amy Winehouse: "Rehab"
2. Beyoncé: "Irreplaceable"
3. Justice: "D.A.N.C.E."
4. Justin Timberlake: "What Goes Around ... "
5. Kanye West: "Stronger"
6. Rihanna (featuring Jay-Z): "Umbrella"

Male Artist of the Year

1. Akon: "Don't Matter," "I Wanna Love You" (featuring Snoop Dogg), "Smack That" (featuring Eminem)
2. Kanye West: "Can't Tell Me Nothing," "Stronger," "Classic (Better Than I've Ever Been" — DJ Premier remix, featuring Nas, KRS-One and Rakim)
3. Justin Timberlake: "Let Me Talk To You/ My Love," "SexyBack" (featuring Timbaland), "What Goes Around ... "
4. T.I.: "Big Things Poppin' (Do It)," "You Know What It Is" (featuring Wyclef Jean), "What You Know"
5. Robin Thicke: "Can U Believe," "Lost Without U," "Wanna Love You Girl" (remix, featuring Busta Rhymes and Pharrell)


Female Artist of the Year
1. Amy Winehouse: "Rehab," "You Know I'm No Good"
2. Beyoncé: "Irreplaceable," "Beautiful Liar" (featuring Shakira)
3. Fergie: "Big Girls Don't Cry (Personal)," "Glamorous" (featuring Ludacris), "Fergalicious" (featuring Will.I.Am)
4. Nelly Furtado: "Maneater," "Say It Right"
5. Rihanna: "Umbrella" (featuring Jay-Z)

Best New Artist
1. Amy Winehouse: "Rehab," "You Know I'm No Good"
2. Carrie Underwood: "Before He Cheats"
3. Gym Class Heroes: "Clothes Off," "Cupid's Chokehold/ Breakfast in America"
4. Lily Allen: "Alfie," "Smile," "LDN"
5. Peter Bjorn and John: "Young Folks"

Best Group
1. Fall Out Boy: "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race," "Thnks Fr Th Mmrs"
2. Gym Class Heroes: "Clothes Off," "Cupid's Chokehold/ Breakfast in America"
3. Linkin Park: "What I've Done"
4. Maroon 5: "Makes Me Wonder"
5. White Stripes: "Icky Thump"

Most Earthshattering Collaboration
1. Akon (featuring Eminem): "Smack That"
2. Beyoncé and Shakira: "Beautiful Liar"
3. Justin Timberlake (featuring Timbaland): "SexyBack"
4. Gwen Stefani (featuring Akon): "The Sweet Escape"
5. U2 (featuring Green Day): "The Saints Are Coming"


Quadruple Threat of the Year
1. Beyoncé
2. Bono
3. Jay-Z
4. Justin Timberlake
5. Kanye West


Monster Single of the Year
1. Avril Lavigne: "Girlfriend"
2. Daughtry: "Home"
3. Fall Out Boy: "Thnks Fr Th Mmrs"
4. Lil Mama: "Lip Gloss (No Music)"
5. T-Pain (featuring Yung Joc): "Buy U a Drank (Shawty Snappin')"
6. Timbaland (featuring Keri Hilson, D.O.E. and Sebastian): "The Way I Are"
7. MIMS: "This Is Why I'm Hot"
8. Plain White T's: "Hey There, Delilah"
9. Rihanna (featuring Jay-Z): "Umbrella"
10. Shop Boyz: "Party Like A Rock Star"


Best Director
1. Beyoncé and Shakira: "Beautiful Liar" (director: Jake Nava)
2. Christina Aguilera: "Candyman" (directors: Mathew Rolston and Christina Aguilera)
3. Justin Timberlake: "What Goes Around ..." (director: Samuel Bayer)
4. Kanye West: "Stronger" (director: Hype Williams)
5. Linkin Park: "What I've Done" (director: Joseph Hahn)
6. Rihanna (featuring Jay-Z): "Umbrella" (director: Chris Applebaum)

Best Editing in a Video
1. Beyoncé and Shakira: "Beautiful Liar" (editor: Jarett Figl)
2. Gnarls Barkley: "Smiley Faces" (editor: Ken Mowe)
3. Justin Timberlake: "What Goes Around ..." (editor: Hollee Singer)
4. Kanye West: "Stronger" (editors: Peter Johnson and Corey Weisz)
5. Linkin Park: "What I've Done" (editor: Igor Kovalik)

Best Choreography in a Video
1. Beyoncé and Shakira: "Beautiful Liar" (choreographer: Frank Gatson)
2. Chris Brown: "Wall To Wall" (choreographers: Rich & Tone and Flii Styles)
3. Ciara: "Like A Boy" (choreographer: Jamaica Craft)
4. Eve: "Tambourine" (choreographer: Tahesha Scott)
5. Justin Timberlake (featuring Timbaland): "SexyBack" (choreographer: Marty Kuldeka)

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Originally posted by That Guy!:
Best New Artist...5. Peter Bjorn and John: "Young Folks"

Wow, to think that a group who is already into their third album is just now a "new artist" is disturbing.

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Originally posted by FragileKidA:

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Originally posted by That Guy!:
Best New Artist...5. Peter Bjorn and John: "Young Folks"

Wow, to think that a group who is already into their third album is just now a "new artist" is disturbing.

It's not as bad as Fountains of Wayne getting a Best New Artist Grammy nomination, after they'd had a string of minor radio hits before "Stacy's Mom." At least Peter, Bjorn and John only broke into America with this album.

Man, now I remember why I don't watch MTV anymore.

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Originally posted by ericg75:
Man, now I remember why I don't watch MTV anymore.

Yeah. Same here. Is anyone other than me surprised at the lack of traditional categories and/or the addition of ridiculous ones? "Monster Single of the Year"? Anyways, some other things that shocked me:

1. Amy Winehouse - knew she'd get a BNA nod, but a VOTY nod? I've never seen the full video for "Rehab", but I've heard her videos could be much better
2. Avril Lavigne - only nominated for Monster Single of the Year. personally, I think this category was set up to ensure that a lot of the crappy videos MTV viewers adore will at least get nominated so their viewers are so happy Yeah I hate it
3. Kanye West - the song hasn't even become a hit yet and I think it was released after the cut-off date. I still love the song, though
4. Peter Bjorn and John - Glad they got in because I love the video and song for "Young Folks"
5. Justice - never heard of the song and I want to say I've heard of the artist somewhere before...
6. Kelly Clarkson - no love. After two years in a row winning Best Female Video (a possibly defunct category now ), she didn't even get nominated for Best Editing or anything like that

The VMAs are going to be very odd this year. I saw what looked like an auditorium during the telecast of the nomination announcement. If that's where the VMAs are going to be held, then it'll probably be the smallest venue ever for a VMA ceremony. Also, there's a rumor that Britney Spears is supposed to perform... and Timbaland was questioned about. He said he was in control and didn't really give an answer. This leads me to believe that she will... this should be very interesting

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Originally posted by ericg75:
Man, now I remember why I don't watch MTV anymore.

MTV is still around? How about that.

I'm not sure the point of the VMAs anymore. It looks as if they are dropping most of the "video categories". MTV isn't even about music anymore.

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Originally posted by JJJ567:
I'm not sure the point of the VMAs anymore. It looks as if they are dropping most of the "video categories". MTV isn't even about music anymore.

When did they start sucking? It must've been by the early to mid nineties, maybe earlier.

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Originally posted by musicfanatic:

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Originally posted by JJJ567:
I'm not sure the point of the VMAs anymore. It looks as if they are dropping most of the "video categories". MTV isn't even about music anymore.

When did they start sucking? It must've been by the early to mid nineties, maybe earlier.

When did the Real World start? That is when MTV jumped the shark. It figured out it could put up mindless reality shows and keep the kids from channel surfing as much.