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Originally posted by Maximum Jack:
Bob, I think you're right. That quote has Ish all over it.


They appear to be different people. At least they registered from different computers with different email addresses and have different birthdays.

Big Brother?

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Originally posted by MajorNougat:

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Originally posted by Chamberk:
Love Velvet Underground & Nico, think White Light/White Heat is overrated trash.

I acknowledge that WL/WH can be tough sometimes. I can do without "The Gift", and "Sister Ray" is 17 minutes long. However, there are few songs in the history of music I would want to hear live more than "Sister Ray".

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Originally posted by Jglass:
But "Velvet Underground & Nico" is the one that gets all the acclaim!(?)

All of their studio albums are highly acclaimed.

At different points in my life each of the first four albums has been my "favorite" VU album. When I first discovered the Velvet Underground (late 80s, just after REM put out Dead Letter Office), I was smitten with VU&N. Later when I was at the height of my Sonic Youth phase (early 90s), WL/WH was my favorite. Still later when I discovered that Lou Reed was one hell of a pop song writer it was Loaded that was at the top of the pile. Now in my older, wiser years I've settled on The Velvet Underground as my fave-- it might be the calming effect it has on me.

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Originally posted by MajorNougat:

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Originally posted by Jglass:
But "Velvet Underground & Nico" is the one that gets all the acclaim!(?)

All of their studio albums are highly acclaimed.

Indeed. If The VU and Nico gets any more acclaim, it's because it was first. But I've seen just as many lists over the years with WL/WH, The Velvet Underground, and Loaded on them. The only VU album that doesn't get any attention is the now out-of-print album they made after Lou Reed quit the band (I think it was basically Doug Yule and some yahoos).

Personally, I like their third, self-titled album the best.

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Originally posted by Jglass:

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Originally posted by Chamberk:
Love Velvet Underground & Nico, think White Light/White Heat is overrated trash.

Personal opinion, of course.

But "Velvet Underground & Nico" is the one that gets all the acclaim!(?)

Not from internet music fans! Instead they say things like "Velvet Underground & Nico isn't that good!" Like people in this topic have been doing... see?

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Originally posted by ericg75:
Personally, I like their third, self-titled album the best.

Copy cat.

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Originally posted by Maximum Jack:

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Originally posted by ericg75:
Personally, I like their third, self-titled album the best.

Copy cat.

When forced to choose, I generally go with this one as well.

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Originally posted by MajorNougat:

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Originally posted by Maximum Jack:

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Originally posted by ericg75:
Personally, I like their third, self-titled album the best.

Copy cat.

When forced to choose, I generally go with this one as well.

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Originally posted by Chamberk:
Not from internet music fans! Instead they say things like "Velvet Underground & Nico isn't that good!" Like people in this topic have been doing... see?

Sorry if we actually listen to the records and make up our own minds. I didn't think that was frowned upon around here

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Originally posted by Chamberk:

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Originally posted by Jglass:

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Originally posted by Chamberk:
Love Velvet Underground & Nico, think White Light/White Heat is overrated trash.

Personal opinion, of course.

But "Velvet Underground & Nico" is the one that gets all the acclaim!(?)

Not from internet music fans! Instead they say things like "Velvet Underground & Nico isn't that good!" Like people in this topic have been doing... see?

I love Velvet Underground & Nico too! Though I wouldn't go as far as to say that White Light/White Heat is overrated trash, I do feel that VU & Nico is a stronger album.

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Originally posted by Nhazghaal:
Aw, I like Nico on the first one! Actually, I do kind of hate her. But she's a strange kind of comic relief. Take "All Tomorrow's Parties" where she sings so commandingly, it's like she's oblivious to how funny she sounds. Like a giant Amazon. She makes the music fun, in addition to all that other shit it is.

yeah! It makes me sad how many people try to kick Nico out and discredit her role in all that. Of course it was all Warhol's idea, but honestly I think Reed and Cale were both giant assholes (bigger assholes than musical Gs ), especially around that time. So I'm happy somebody else is in on it.

I also think it's interesting how you can throw an 8 minute, two chord song about heroin with viola shrieking the whole time on an album (among other sandpaper smooth freakouts), but the thing that bugs people is this woman's bizarre voice.

And while her voice did get to me at first, I'm comfortable with it now. Nico's delivery is really stiff on VU & Nico. But I think mebbe listening to her solo albums got me used to her voice. It's amazing and uncanny. I've heard nothing else like it, really.

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Originally posted by vitunkrapula:
but the thing that bugs people is this woman's bizarre voice.

And while her voice did get to me at first, I'm comfortable with it now. Nico's delivery is really stiff on VU & Nico. But I think mebbe listening to her solo albums got me used to her voice. It's amazing and uncanny. I've heard nothing else like it, really.

Not really. I actually like her solo work. I just don't like her versions of the VU songs on the first record.

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Originally posted by Claybay:

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Originally posted by Maximum Jack:
Bob, I think you're right. That quote has Ish all over it.


They appear to be different people. At least they registered from different computers with different email addresses and have different birthdays.

Big Brother?

As a Queenslander, you should be used to that.

Getting back to the VU, "The Gift" is fantastic. You've got Cale's mellifluous tones coming out of one channel, and the band going crazy out of the other. One of that album's highlights.

Hard to choose between WLWH and VU as their best.

back to topic-

old, young, who gives a fuck?

On the topic of old people fucking, the elderly are the largest growing population with sexually transmitted diseases. So this is a message to all you promiscuous old farts:

"Sex isn't wrong, but you gotta be right
If you're hitting the sheets, then wrap it up tight"

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Originally posted by BobA:
Getting back to the VU, "The Gift" is fantastic. You've got Cale's mellifluous tones coming out of one channel, and the band going crazy out of the other. One of that album's highlights.

Oops. Is that the track I said I could live without? Oops.

Well, it's 8+ minutes and spoken word. That's a recipe for interesting at first but not quite as rewarding on repeated listens. Just my opinion. I am a big fan of the album as a whole though. It's hard to imagine what listening to that would've been like in 1968.

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Originally posted by MajorNougat:

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Originally posted by BobA:
Getting back to the VU, "The Gift" is fantastic. You've got Cale's mellifluous tones coming out of one channel, and the band going crazy out of the other. One of that album's highlights.

Oops. Is that the track I said I could live without? Oops.

Well, it's 8+ minutes and spoken word. That's a recipe for interesting at first but not quite as rewarding on repeated listens. Just my opinion. I am a big fan of the album as a whole though. It's hard to imagine what listening to that would've been like in 1968.

I first heard it in 1970. Quite a shock after TVUAN. I'm with you to some extent re spoken word, but Cale's voice...

I'd love to hear him recite Under Milk Wood

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Originally posted by crazed:
back to topic-

old, young, who gives a fuck?

Possibly the best post in the thread.