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"Forum Moderator" Super Bad-Ass Jedi
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Funeral is not one of the best albums of all time, or decade, for that matter. It just might make a top 50 in my top albums of 2004 list. The Doors always sucked and they are ridiculously revered, regarded for no reason.
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quote: Originally posted by FragileKidA:
The Doors always sucked and they are ridiculously revered, regarded for no reason.
Morrison was one of the first guys doing dark, gloomy rock. If you look at what the Doors were doing compared to other bands in the Psychedelic era, they were really doing something unique. Other bands from that time and place were about peace, love, and tie-die, and the Doors were about sex, drugs, and black leather. Morrison was a huge influence on early punk and goth music. Iggy Pop has long said that Morrison was his single biggest reason for wanting to make music.
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quote: Originally posted by tomwaits4noman:
Arcade Fire's Neon Bible did not connect with me on any emotional level, unlike funeral that comes at you with a flood of emotion
I'm with you on Neon Bible. With the exceptions of "Intervention" and "Keep the Car Running," I found it no better than above average. That said, while I think Funeral is better, I did not find it a tsunami of emotion like you.
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"Forum Moderator" Super Bad-Ass Jedi
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quote: Originally posted by EricG75: Morrison was one of the first guys doing dark, gloomy rock. If you look at what the Doors were doing compared to other bands in the Psychedelic era, they were really doing something unique. Other bands from that time and place were about peace, love, and tie-die, and the Doors were about sex, drugs, and black leather. Morrison was a huge influence on early punk and goth music. Iggy Pop has long said that Morrison was his single biggest reason for wanting to make music.
I don't care about their uniqueness or influence, their music sucks. As for psych rock with some sex, drugs and leather of that time, I'll take Led Zeppelin and The Velvet Underground in a heartbeat.
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quote: Originally posted by JGlass: I wouldn't consider Zeppe or The Velv psychedelic.
Come on Jackson. Velvet Underground was the epitome of Psych back then. Experimental avant-garde, what more could you ask for? Led Zep had their moments of psych but for the most, I do agree with you there.
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quote: Originally posted by MusicEmissions.com: quote: Originally posted by JGlass: I wouldn't consider Zeppe or The Velv psychedelic.
Come on Jackson. Velvet Underground was the epitome of Psych back then. Experimental avant-garde, what more could you ask for?
There you go, experimental.. but The Velvet Underground didn't put out nuggets, they didn't make psych.
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My theory with The Doors is that they are extremely overrated by highschoolers and classic rock radio, but severely underrated by the critical community. I find most of their songs quite catchy, though often overstated and kitschy. In regards to the VU, I was always of the opinion that they were held in such high esteem because they were a groundbreaking act. I can't say that I really love to listen to the VU all that often because it is just too messy for me. Give me Lou Reed's "Transformer" any day...
I never hated any of you/I loved you all at the time
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the doors i think were all about the performance about Morrison as a front man and his pseudo spiritualism if you did not buy into it then it may explain why the Doors never did it for you.
I am not a big fan of them but they had some great tunes yet they could be patchy as hell, I think they basically looked up as the American Pink Floyd.
They captured a time and place, one of the first bands to capture the darkness at the end of the hippy era.
Unlike the Velvets who were not even a blip on the radar at that time, The Doors had a big following Morrison spoke about drugs and sex etc same as Lou Reed but while I would argue that they were not as ground breaking as Velvet underground they were far more popular or well known at the time. Also it helps that Morrison died young... the whole revered icon thing...
Watch Oliver Stones The Doors where you will see the Doors at an Andy Warhol party, the scene before Morrison bangs Nico in the elevator, you will see Velvet underground playing in the background and one of the members of the Doors say this place is full of freaks... Its a blink and miss scene but I think it shows the parallels and differences between the bands.
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Ok, I got a string of more sacrilege for you guys. These things I believe to be emphatically true. Interpol's Antics is a more complete and much better album than, Turn on the Bright Lights. Definitely Maybe is better than What's the Story Morning Glory, but not by much. Pearl Jam's Binaural and Yield are both excellent, underrated albums. They are both in fact better than, Vs. Jack Johnson is overrated and boring. M. Ward is much better than him. M. Ward is much better than Ben Harper too. Rancid's ...And Out Came the Wolves is among the best albums of the 90's. Classic rock radio distorts what really needs to be listened to by American youth. I mean I like Tom Petty, but does every 16 year old for the last 20 and next 20 years have to worship him too??
"don't get sentimental...it always ends up drivel"
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quote: Originally posted by Moses, R.M.: Ok, I got a string of more sacrilege for you guys. These things I believe to be emphatically true.
Interpol's Antics is a more complete and much better album than, Turn on the Bright Lights.
Definitely Maybe is better than What's the Story Morning Glory, but not by much.
Pearl Jam's Binaural and Yield are both excellent, underrated albums. They are both in fact better than, Vs.
Jack Johnson is overrated and boring. M. Ward is much better than him. M. Ward is much better than Ben Harper too.
Rancid's ...And Out Came the Wolves is among the best albums of the 90's.
Classic rock radio distorts what really needs to be listened to by American youth. I mean I like Tom Petty, but does every 16 year old for the last 20 and next 20 years have to worship him too??  What in the hell are you talking about!!@#$?  Really though, I don't vehemently disagree with anything you've said, but I've got the opposite view(s). I guess that's why you posted those here huh.
==== What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun.
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"Forum Moderator" Super Bad-Ass Jedi
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quote: Originally posted by Moses, R.M.: Jack Johnson is overrated and boring.
I don't think that's 'sacrilege' because most of everyone here will agree with it.
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quote: Originally posted by FragileKidA:
The Doors always sucked and they are ridiculously revered, regarded for no reason.
Jesus, when you hate a band, you really fuckin' hate 'em, don't ya?
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L.A. Woman was a damn good album... ...BY THE DOORS!!!
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quote: Originally posted by Moses, R.M.: Jack Johnson is overrated and boring. M. Ward is much better than him. M. Ward is much better than Ben Harper too.
Did I stumble into the Captain Obvious thread?
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"This is my main concern with Obama; what if he has been groomed since childhood to blend in with the zionists and infidels? What if he has been led along by a radical islamic terrorist organization and positioned to become an influential politician?
What if Obama gets into White House and turns out to be some crazy muslim terrorist? What do we do then? We'll be pretty screwed. It could happen." -- by some fucking nutjob
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"Forum Moderator" Super Bad-Ass Jedi
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quote: Originally posted by Maximum Jack:
Did I stumble into the Captain Obvious thread?
Limp Bizkit is not a very good band.
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quote: Originally posted by EricG75: quote: Originally posted by Maximum Jack:
Did I stumble into the Captain Obvious thread?
Limp Bizkit is not a very good band.
Nu Metal is not a very good musical genre.
I never hated any of you/I loved you all at the time
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quote: Originally posted by DrAwesome: quote: Originally posted by EricG75: quote: Originally posted by Maximum Jack:
Did I stumble into the Captain Obvious thread?
Limp Bizkit is not a very good band.
Nu Metal is not a very good musical genre.
Britney Spears never really had much talent, she was just a pretty face.
_____________________________ Weep to Water the Trees.
"This is my main concern with Obama; what if he has been groomed since childhood to blend in with the zionists and infidels? What if he has been led along by a radical islamic terrorist organization and positioned to become an influential politician?
What if Obama gets into White House and turns out to be some crazy muslim terrorist? What do we do then? We'll be pretty screwed. It could happen." -- by some fucking nutjob
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I don't care what anyone else thinks, Radiohead are my favorite band, period.
I had a stick of CareFree gum, but it didn't work. I felt pretty good while I was blowing that bubble, but as soon as the gum lost its flavor I was back to pondering my mortality.
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