Vykromond, thanks for clarifying that...

Jesus, what a difference a few letters make.

I can stop hating the beginning of that great song now.

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Originally posted by Chriscreevy:
But for me, the worst lyrics of any song I've heard are from "I'd Like That" by XTC

XTC may have some stupid lyrics, but I think much of thewir lyrics are very smart and clever. I could understand how osme peopole would think the lyrics are too cute or something though.

Andy Partridge is a brilliantly clever lyricist. I think he occasionally goes "cutesy" in an attempt to pander, but I've always read "I'd Like That" as very much tongue-in-cheek. Some of his allusions are quite clever...I've always marvelled at the man being able to write a song like "Pink Thing" which most people thought was an ode to his baby daughter but was actually a paean to his penis.

Wow..no, actually, I think it was a *cover* of that Supertramp song...I didn't know that, and I don't think he knows it either.

It appears I and my XTC hating ways have struck a nerve. A girl I know gave me the song as an example of good lyrics, so I judged it with a little more notice.

But I forgot that there's one more song I hate much, much more. Lenny Kravitz's Fly.

"I wish that I could fly
Into the sky
So very high
Just like a dragonfly"

Oh just try to defend that.

Noel Gallagher of Oasis has got to be one of the laziest lyricists of recent times. Sometimes it sounds like he just writes the first thing that comes to his mind and never bothers re-reading or re-writing.

"Slowly walking down the hall
Faster than a cannonball"
(Wonderwall)

What exactly does that mean????


"The days are long and the night will throw you away
Cause the sun don't shine."
(Hello)

Hellooooo???!!!!


"Look into the wall of my mind's eye
I think I know but I don't know why
Questions are the answers you might need."
(D'you Know What I Mean)

Huh? What is the wall of the mind's eye??? And how do you look INTO that wall??


"Here's a thought for every man
Who tries to understand what is in his hands
He walks along the open road of love and life
Surviving if he can."
(Cast No Shadow)

Does Noel think these banal, empty lyrics are deep???

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Originally posted by Chriscreevy:
It appears I and my XTC hating ways have struck a nerve. A girl I know gave me the song as an example of good lyrics, so I judged it with a little more notice.

But I forgot that there's one more song I hate much, much more. Lenny Kravitz's Fly.

"I wish that I could fly
Into the sky
So very high
Just like a dragonfly"

Oh just try to defend that.

No argument about Lenny here. Ugh.

And I wasn't being too defensive about XTC...but I think the good far outweighs the bad and banal for them.

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Originally posted by Peewee:
Noel Gallagher of Oasis has got to be one of the laziest lyricists of recent times. Sometimes it sounds like he just writes the first thing that comes to his mind and never bothers re-reading or re-writing.

Does Noel think these banal, empty lyrics are deep???

I'm one of the few Oasis fans here on these board, but I think he's a lousy lyricist but a great songwriter. I thought Liam did some of the lyrics. I could be wrong.

Some of the lyrics seem to be TRYING to be strongly symbolic, but mixing metaphors never works:

"Someday you will find me/
Caught beneath the landslide/
Of the champagne supernova in the sky"

Um. There aren't landslides in the sky...it's the FREAKIN' SKY!!!!


Nobody has mentioned, as bad lyrics, the standard bearer: Alanis Morrisette's complete ignorance of what irony really is in the song "Ironic." Rain on your wedding day...I think that's just bad luck, Alanis.

Now..I've always defended Alanis even after she became the hip target. People remembered her shrill voice and cheesy lyrics and forgot that JLP was actually a good album.

But yes...she should have looked up 'Irony' in the dictionary before she wrote that song. And did anybody ever think it was interesting when she claimed she was a bunch of strange contradictions with her hand in her pocket?

I agree Bob, Jagged Little Pill was an excellent album and it has come under a lot of fire from people who think it is uncool to like an album that 15 million people have bought. I always resented though her image as "woman who is mad at men." The media for some reason thought this was original and kept playing it up, but it is pretty lame I must say.

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Originally posted by Bobthespirit:
Now..I've always defended Alanis even after she became the hip target. People remembered her shrill voice and cheesy lyrics and forgot that JLP was actually a good album.

But yes...she should have looked up 'Irony' in the dictionary before she wrote that song. And did anybody ever think it was interesting when she claimed she was a bunch of strange contradictions with her hand in her pocket?

I was pointing out the latter, not trying to do the former. I'm ambivalent to Alanis. Like everyone else, I liked "You Oughtta Know" but I've not been overly impressed with anything else she's done. The vocal yelps she lets out aren't my bag. She's a prime example of someone who went from cool to uncool within the space of one record...a whole lot of people loved Jagged Little Pill when it came out, and stopped liking it when 15 million people decided they liked it too.

I hear that she's got an acoustic version of JLP coming out soon. She performed live on Howard Stern recently and was good. I only rag her for the misuse of ironic...

Man, I cant stop thinking of new songs. Lee Greenwood's Proud To Be An American.

"If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.
I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘ Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away."

Patriot sap, and sometimes used before sporting events, jesus.

Yes I remember the first time hearing that one... Anyone over 10 years old who rhymes any combination of fly, sky, and/or high should be shot.


<But I forgot that there's one more song I hate much, much more. Lenny Kravitz's Fly.

"I wish that I could fly
Into the sky
So very high
Just like a dragonfly">

Oh just try to defend that.[/QUOTE]

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Originally posted by Chris_Creevy:
Man, I cant stop thinking of new songs. Lee Greenwood's Proud To Be An American.

"If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.
I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘ Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away."

Patriot sap, and sometimes used before sporting events, jesus.

Well, pandering lyrics are in general, bad lyrics. Shallow 'everything is black and white' patriotism included.

Edit: Oh, I thought of a big one for 'terrible lyrics'.

Eminem - Stan.

This is the most arrogant, self-loving, looking-at-himself-in-the-mirror tripe I've ever heard. First you find out that Eminem is such an amazingly cool celebrity that his fans love him to the point that they'd kill themselves, their girlfriends, and their unborn child because he didn't return all their letters. Then, at the end, we find out Eminem *isn't* even some arrogant, hot-headed celebrity! (...Wait..). Aapparently, he *does* care about his fans, but is simply overwhelmed by his massive, ungodly number of adoring fans! And, tragic in almost Shakespearean proportions, he actually was writing him back! But alas...it was too late.

Hearing those lyrics makes me want to punch ol' M&M in the face.

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As much as I love their songs, Dogs Die in Hot Cars have some godawful lyrics.

'I'll do what I said I'd do, it's good
To be the one who says, hey, this is not so bad
And it's kinda cool'

'They'll wear some tiny little hat and they'll feel good
They'll feel good 'cause their hat is silly
And silly means that their time is good.'

I could go on. But I won't.

What makes it even worse is that these clunkers are delivered on what are otherwise some really amazing tunes. Sigh....what could have been....

Every song lyric by good charlotte or simple plan-they really annoy me.

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Originally posted by sweetblackangel:
Every song lyric by good charlotte or simple plan-they really annoy me.

I think that is a given for most people...unless you are 12.

Bernard Sumner from New Order goes for this naive honesty thing that at times works incredibly well, and at others falls flat on its face.

I still can't decide which the "But out there the world is a beautiful place / With mountains, lakes and the human race" line from Krafty does.

fred durst

I'm listening to 'Crippled Inside' by John Lennon right now.

And I remembered that just about every time I listen to this I sing "But if you disagree with me politically..then you're crippled inside!" over it.

Two or three of the songs on Imagine can be argued to be the absolute pinnacle of John Lennon's holier-than-thou period.