Why? Because you keep thinking you can substitute having the last word for being right about something.
I know that I'm right about the tone thing and I have doubts about whether or not you understand what I'm talking about. After all, your response was decidedly non-intellectual:
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He doesn't like my attitude.
*falls off chair*
Vibrato is a left-hand technique? You're blowing my mind, dude.
And "expression is something that results from tone, it's not an element of tone" - God, please kill me now.
You try to come off as someone who knows a lot about music, but when someone presents an argument to which you have no response you resort to sarcasm, bullying, and vituperation
I know that the last word is something that is very important to you- it's a manifestation of the superiority that you long to feel over the other posters on this forum. So let's see what you come up with this time. Say what you want, I'm done with you.
Those two reactions were carefully appropriated for two statements you made. The first was you reciting something skull-crushingly obvious as if it was insider information - speaking to your lack of experience and/or naivete.
The second was just you talking absolute bullshit -- you made something up in an attempt to seem like you had any idea what I meant by "expression" - also to seem like you had any idea what you'd just said yourself about "tone" - which you didn't.
You desperately need to shut up. I humor people like you for a while, because I AM a nice guy. But your pissy, petty little ego that is incapable of accepting a simple and concise defeat like the one it just suffered, cannot survive without somehow making itself feel like it pulled off some sort of tiny victory. I made this thread, and you are derailing it with your fake nonsense. Go away.
EDIT - "VITUPERATION"? You are pathetic. VITUPERATION? You couldn't broadcast your painful, sweating, uphill battle to seem intelligent any better with a GIANT NEON FUCKING HELICOPTER. Have some self-respect, for christ's sake.
Only in an environment like this could the guy who created the thread, when he's trying to finish with some passive-aggressive loser so the discussion can move forward, be called a "troll."
I know arguments can be fun, but don't engage/respond to BlackGravel. His(?) posts in this thread prove him to be a sad, seething prick who's much more interested in his own bile than anything else.
So let's get come up with- to borrow a phrase from his original post- a better use of our time than all this back-and-forth with a little, furious man.
"VITUPERATION"? You are pathetic. VITUPERATION? You couldn't broadcast your painful, sweating, uphill battle to seem intelligent any better with a GIANT NEON FUCKING HELICOPTER. Have some self-respect, for christ's sake.
I just got an e-boner reading that exchange between the great guitar-gods of the Metacritic Forum. It makes me happy to know that i can't possibly get into this heated debate because i know about as much about guitar as i do about colonoscopies (did i spell that right? I sure hope so, i wouldn't want to be corrected on that point).
Who is the best FEMALE indie guitarist? I sure hope someone doesn't say Liz Phair.
I'm going with Marnie Stern and Nina Nastasia (though i'm unsure if she is "good" technically speaking, i just like her work with the guitar).
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Sadly Miss Lasagne is not on an indie label, so she wouldn't qualify.
Come to think of it, this is a bit of a weird discussion and you've made a very good point there.
Most of Joe Satriani's output could be classed as indie and I'm pretty sure Steve Vai's early stuff was released through an independent label. You could probably add Frank Zappa and Buckethead to that list too. Metallica released at least 3 albums through Music for Nations and Bill Frissell has put countless albums out on obscure labels. So 'indie guitar' would encompass jazz, thrash metal and virtuoso material as well.
Can anyone clarify if the rules state that all these indie guitarists need to sound like the Pixies?
That's the entire reason that I haven't really added my input.. I have no clue who I can include and whi can't. I'd agree that Buckethead, Satriani, Vai, Zappa, and Vini Reilly are all fucking incredible guitarists (most wouldn't disagree) but do they fit the topic? I really wouldn't know.
Originally posted by CleverName84: Who is the best FEMALE indie guitarist? I sure hope someone doesn't say Liz Phair.
I definitely don't have comprehensive enough knowledge on the subject to say anything definitive, but Corin Tucker and Carrie Brownstein of Sleater-Kinney have got to be up there. I have no idea if one is a better guitarist than the other, but I know there is some sick guitar on Sleater-Kinney albums.
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Originally posted by CleverName84: I'm going with Marnie Stern
That chick knows how to shred.
Read the first goddamn post. Marnie Stern is a stupid answer you stupid stupid fucks. Maybe if you would actually READ what's been said in this thread instead of giving pathetic bullshit answers then this fucking thread would make some fucking progress.
Also, I don't know if he's really "indie" but the four guitarists who played on Glenn Branca's The Ascension are excellent. I'm talking Branca, Ned Sublette, David Rosenbloom, and Lee Ronaldo (all apologies).
Originally posted by grabblegarrr: Read the first goddamn post. Marnie Stern is a stupid answer you stupid stupid fucks. Maybe if you would actually READ what's been said in this thread instead of giving pathetic bullshit answers then this fucking thread would make some fucking progress.
