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I've been to enough shows to harshly judge certain behavior, and taking a shit ton of pictures with a flash right in the band's face is one of them. Still, I felt compelled to become "that guy" at last Tuesday's RAA concert to document their first US appearance.

"A Study In Drunken Photography at a Concert, or, Why To Adjust Your Shutter Speed When You See The RAA"


Great work, Elfpat! Some nice pictures there. Man, Amy is a hottie. I really wanna see an RAA show now.


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This is a great story about how the internet can lead to bigger and better things for an unknown and unsigned band. We all played a significant role in this story, so I thought I would share it with you. If I get any of this wrong, please correct me.

The Rural Alberta Advantage is an indie rock trio from Toronto made up of Paul Banwatt, Amy Cole, and Nils Eddenloff. In 2005, they put together a demo, but were unable to generate much interest. In 2006, the RAA self-produced an EP cleverly named, The Rural Alberta Advantage EP. Again, no interest. Then, in 2008, the RAA self-produced their first LP called Hometowns and put it up for sale on the internet. To this day, this is the only place to purchase a physical copy of the album.

On February 19, 2008, a review of Hometowns appeared on Herohill.com, a site that defines itself as “a music review site from the Great White North”. This review refers to the RAA as “probably the best unsigned band in Canada.” Herohill summed up Hometowns as follows:

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On the surface, you are hit with the trio's Neutral Milk Hotel pop and Nils Edenloff's detailed narratives of his Alberta roots. While it seems almost necessary to toss in a Sufjan reference when you talk about the subject matter, the final product couldn't be farther from one of the indie rock poster boy's releases. Instead of calculated, over thought, lush compositions, RAA prefers energetic, spontaneous, spare arrangements with just enough shocks and surprises to keep you guessing. And the power the trio delivers is astonishing.


In early summer of this year, one of our members, nmeiborg was poking around Herohill when he discovered the RAA. On June 24, nmeiborg posted the following in the “Best Records of 2008” thread after listening to Hometowns:

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Pretty impressed with a couple albums recently:

The Rural Alberta Advantage - Hometowns

Indie folk-rock that reminds me a bit of Neutral Milk Hotel

The War on Drugs - Wagonwheel Blues

Indie-rock with hints of Springsteen, Eno, Sonic Youth and early U2


This short post caused ripples that created a stir on Metacritic which has ended in a ground-swell of support for this unsigned band. Since then 7 people have put the RAA in their top 20: mneiborg (#2), RavingLunatic (#2), twinsdad (#4), L.R. Willaim Spencer (#7), Liberal Kid (#10), ajar (unnumbered, but at the top of the list), and CoCoCo (putting RAA in the “GoodGoodGood” category). Several others have mentioned it as an album they are still digesting. Not bad for an unsigned band.

RavingLunatic saw nmeiborg’s post, and picked up the album. Since then, RL has been an ardent supporter of the band. On October 5, RL made the following post in the “Best Records of 2008” thread:

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Dudes, I recently re-listened to that Rural Alberta Advantage album, Hometowns, and it is freaking killer. I'm tempted to call it the best indie-rock album since The Meadowlands. These songs are passionate, catchy, and fresh. At times it recalls Neutral Milk Hotel, but they are different in many ways as well. Rural Alberta Advantage is now in a ferocious battle with Tallest Man On Earth for my #1 spot. If you are a fan of indie-rock and haven't heard this, you need to.


This is where the RAA picks up a little steam. Seeing this post, I checked the RAA out on their myspace page. I instantly fall in love with the band. But, I’m too honest to illegally download the album and too cheap to pay $12 plus shipping and handling from their website. So, I posted a message on the message boards at eMusic directed to Yancey Strickler, one of the editors at eMusic. In my message, I asked if I could recommend an unsigned band for the eMusic Selects program. Every couple of months, eMusic signs up unsigned artists to promote and digitally distribute their albums. The program has been going on for less than a year, but so far eMusic signed up Breathe Owl Breathe to distribute its Ghost Glacier EP and at least one artist – High Places – has received a record deal after being an eMusic Select artist. Yancey was impressed with the RAA, and said that he would contact the band.

Slightly more than a month later, the RAA has become an eMusic Select artist. This could be a big stepping-stone for the band, and will guarantee them exposure to the more than 400,000 monthly eMusic subscribers.

I will be watching this band closely to see what the future holds. I feel that all of us here on the Metacritic boards have a stake in this band, since we have played an important role in their development. Good job nmeiborg, RL, twinsdad, L.R. Willaim Spencer, ajar, Liberal Kid, CoCoCo and everybody else that has been talking up this band! The RAA is our band!

Here’s a link to an interview with the band and a link to the eMusic download page, including eMusic’s review of hometowns: http://www.emusic.com/features/spotlight/2008_200811-selects-qa-raa.html
Autofellatio or an orgy?
 
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Autofellatio or an orgy?


I don't get it.


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I don't think I've seen such a self-stroking post in my entire time on any forum.
 
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I don't think I've seen such a self-stroking post in my entire time on any forum.


That's what I thought you meant.

No matter what your opinion is of my initial post or this thread in general, it wound up getting a great deal of exposure for an unknown and unsigned band. Which was my intent.

Besides, I find the following post more self-promoting and obnoxious Big Grin

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Originally posted by RavingLunatic:
So that guy who I gave a burnt copy of Hometowns not only really liked the album himself but has been playing it for his friends who are equally enraptured by it. He told me he thinks about 5 of his friends are going to buy it. They were all "where did you hear of these guys?" and he's like "this guy at work." Very cool.



That's nothin'. I told my friend over at eMusic about it, and now it's the best selling eMusic Selects album ever. Razzer

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And I bet you still read what I wrote because you guys eat this shit up as much as I do.


Fall of Troy: That's awesome you guys got them so much exposure, I just can't figure out what exactly could be said throughout 9 pgs in a thread intended to stroke ego. Which is why I said "autofellatio or orgy?" Clearly you're not the only one masturbating..
 
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Fall of Troy: That's awesome you guys got them so much exposure, I just can't figure out what exactly could be said throughout 9 pgs in a thread intended to stroke ego. Which is why I said "autofellatio or orgy?" Clearly you're not the only one masturbating..


Maybe it is a bit self-congratulatory, but I don't see anything wrong in people taking an interest in the band and helping to promote them. I think people read and contribute to this thread because (1) they like the band, (2) they are interested in the band and what they are doing now, and (3) are proud of our role in the band's success.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to know that blogs have linked to this thread, that if you Google "rural alberta advantage" this thread shows up on the first page, or that the RAA has played their first show in America, it was well received, and it was an excellent show.

I'm not saying that the band would never make it without us. They are a very good band and would eventually be discovered. But, I do know for a fact that I would not have known of the RAA without mneiborg and RL posting about them, the RAA would not have been a November eMusic Select artist if I did not recommend them to Yancey at eMusic, and the RAA would not have placed #10 on our year end list without this thread.

Maybe this thread could be a lesson for you in how to get your recommendations taken seriously. I know that you are consistently disappointed that you recommend stuff and nobody listens. What people have done on this thread is repeatedly talked up a band until they caught on. We were proactive in promoting the band, not just on this site, but with our friends and contacts. We didn't just make a random suggestion in a "Best of " thread and then bitch that no one paid attention.


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I think FoT is allowed strut around a bit. Not one person here wouldn't feel good about themselves after getting an unsigned band some deserved recognition. He doesn't even really gloat at all, he's just proud of what he's done, as he should be. I'm proud of you and proud of the RAA for their recent success (adding to the orgy)!
 
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Yeah, I support this thread, even though I understand JGlass's POV. It's a pretty amazing thing to witness first hand. It doesn't hurt that I do genuinely like RAA.


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Jglass, I know you're not throwing out outrageous remarks or flagrant comments here, but it seems pretty bad taste to come in and cause bad feelings in a thread and topic that has been a feel-good thing for the board.

I don't want this to blow up into a "thing" and blemish the good stuff that's happened here though, so I think we should all agree to end the conflict here.


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I don't think you understand. A canonical indie cliche is the idea that 'you' were into them "first". Metacritic, troy, and emusic can actually say it with confidence now - it has meaning!


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The real travesty is that The Rural Alberta Advantage played Union Hall in Brooklyn tonight and I was at work Frowner

Even worse, thank you damn economy, I only made $50 in tips today.

Basically, if I could subtract $80 from my net-worth, I would have MUCH RATHER seen them with several bourbon drinks in hand...
 
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The real travesty is that The Rural Alberta Advantage played Union Hall in Brooklyn tonight and I was at work Frowner

Even worse, thank you damn economy, I only made $50 in tips today.

Basically, if I could subtract $80 from my net-worth, I would have MUCH RATHER seen them with several bourbon drinks in hand...


I was making plans to fly to NY for the show, but I had to work on Saturday. Damn!


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I downloaded this and just can't figure out what is so great about it. I think it's great that they are getting a lot of exposure, but what is it that I'm missing here?
 
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I downloaded this and just can't figure out what is so great about it. I think it's great that they are getting a lot of exposure, but what is it that I'm missing here?


Did you listen to it all the way through on headphones while riding in the car with your friends on a sunny day at night while ROCKING OUT!

Because that's when I think it sounds the best.

Also, if lyrics are really important to you I could see this album not hitting as hard. That's the only serious weak point I can see for the album. I really appreciate how the vocals and the drums interweave and build off of each other, and how they can jump right into great heavy melodies and also great light melodies, and have them transistion smoothly from song to song.

You might not ever like it though, and that is fine.


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Did you listen to it all the way through on headphones while riding in the car with your friends on a sunny day at night while ROCKING OUT!

I don't listen to music on headphones around friends.
 
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Did you listen to it all the way through on headphones while riding in the car with your friends on a sunny day at night while ROCKING OUT!

I don't listen to music on headphones around friends.


You should try it, because it's the absolute best way to experience friends. It allows you to really feel your friends bass levels, and it brings out the intricacies of how they were produced.


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I'm confused. Are you listening to the same thing with a headphone splitter, so you can nod at each other and smile and sing along? Or do you all have your own ipods and listen to differrent stuff? Actually both of these scenarios seem completely ridiculous.
 
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