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quote: Originally posted by L. R. William Spencer:
This album is just a little more full of ideas than Boys and Girls in America and I love it...
I'm assuming you haven't heard Almost Killed Me yet. Put that on your "to do" list. You may end up liking that one even better than Seperation Sunday. My name's Rick Danko, but people call me One Hour Photo.
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| Posts: 5514 | Location: Michigan | Registered: 19 June 2005 | |
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quote: My name's Rick Danko, but people call me One Hour Photo.
Man, that's a great song. The lyrics crack me up every time. |
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| Posts: 1376 | Location: Valparaiso, IN | Registered: 01 July 2006 | |
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quote: Originally posted by ericg75: quote: Originally posted by L. R. William Spencer:
This album is just a little more full of ideas than Boys and Girls in America and I love it...
I'm assuming you haven't heard Almost Killed Me yet. Put that on your "to do" list. You may end up liking that one even better than Seperation Sunday. My name's Rick Danko, but people call me One Hour Photo.
So far it's a tad rough around the edges but still very good!
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| Posts: 1155 | Location: Charlottesville, VA | Registered: 19 May 2006 | |
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quote: Originally posted by L. R. William Spencer:
I guess this is the right place for this.
After buying Boys and Girls in America, I downloaded Seperation Sunday with medium expectations. I almost immediately shelved it. It was a little difficult for me, or perhaps I was just a little preoccupied (because I usually am intrigued by difficult music). Coming back to it a few weeks ago, I proceeded with caution. And... IT IS GREAT! In my opinion, it is better than Boys and Girls in America, which was my number one album of 2006. That gives you an idea of my opinion of this album. "Cattle and the Creeping Things" is my favorite song of the album: it is multilayered lyrically and harmonically. This album is just a little more full of ideas than Boys and Girls in America and I love it...
I think Boys and Girls is much different type of album than Separation Sunday. I think Boys and Girls is much more accessible, both musically and thematically. It's mostly about young relationships, which is easy for anyone to understand. I loved Boys and Girls the first time I listened to it. It took me a few listens to get into Separation Sunday. As you can see from my previous points, I had to put a lot of thought into the lyrics. Musically, its harsher - not as polished. But, that's what makes it a great album. I love "Cattle and Creeping Things" too. The repeating guitar riff is infectious, and the lyrics are hysterical. I guess I heard about original sin, I heard the dude blamed the chick, I heard the chick blamed the snake, And I heard they were naked when they got busted, And I heard things aint been the same since. Or, even better: I was seeing double for three straight days After I got born again It was very nice and peaceful And it really pleased me to be around so many people Of course half of them were visions The other half were friends from going through the program with me. Just classic!
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| Posts: 572 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: 18 December 2006 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Troy: quote: Originally posted by L. R. William Spencer:
I guess this is the right place for this.
After buying Boys and Girls in America, I downloaded Seperation Sunday with medium expectations. I almost immediately shelved it. It was a little difficult for me, or perhaps I was just a little preoccupied (because I usually am intrigued by difficult music). Coming back to it a few weeks ago, I proceeded with caution. And... IT IS GREAT! In my opinion, it is better than Boys and Girls in America, which was my number one album of 2006. That gives you an idea of my opinion of this album. "Cattle and the Creeping Things" is my favorite song of the album: it is multilayered lyrically and harmonically. This album is just a little more full of ideas than Boys and Girls in America and I love it...
I think Boys and Girls is much different type of album than Separation Sunday. I think Boys and Girls is much more accessible, both musically and thematically. It's mostly about young relationships, which is easy for anyone to understand. I loved Boys and Girls the first time I listened to it. It took me a few listens to get into Separation Sunday. As you can see from my previous points, I had to put a lot of thought into the lyrics. Musically, its harsher - not as polished. But, that's what makes it a great album. I love "Cattle and Creeping Things" too. The repeating guitar riff is infectious, and the lyrics are hysterical. I guess I heard about original sin, I heard the dude blamed the chick, I heard the chick blamed the snake, And I heard they were naked when they got busted, And I heard things aint been the same since. Or, even better: I was seeing double for three straight days After I got born again It was very nice and peaceful And it really pleased me to be around so many people Of course half of them were visions The other half were friends from going through the program with me. Just classic!
Yeah, I definitely agree... the lyrics on Seperation Sunday are much better than Boys and Girls in America, in my opinion.
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I think Separation Sunday is definitely more clever lyrically at times. But that's not to downplay the brilliance of the lyrics of Stuck Between Stations, Chips Ahoy, Hot Soft Light, or Citrus for that matter. I mean "Lost in fog and love and faithless fear, I've had kisses that make Judas seem sincere." That lyric really can't be beaten I feel.I think that because Separation Sunday is a concept record, it has repeating themes and motifs, and therefore comes together more cohesively, while Boys and Girls and America is portraying a much wider picture and therefore the lyrics are more general, but no less touching. But speaking of Almost Killed Me, Knuckles may very well be my favorite song of theirs. I've been trying to get people to call me Freddy knuckles, People keep calling me Right Said Fred. It's hard to keep trying when half your friends are dying. It's hard to hold steady when half your friends are dead already. Sheer Brilliance.
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quote: Originally posted by brighteyes215:
But speaking of Almost Killed Me, Knuckles may very well be my favorite song of theirs. I've been trying to get people to call me Freddy knuckles, People keep calling me Right Said Fred. It's hard to keep trying when half your friends are dying. It's hard to hold steady when half your friends are dead already. Sheer Brilliance.
I love "Knuckles" too. I like the "I've been tryin' to get people to call me Sunny D, 'cause I got the good stuff that kids go for" line.
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quote: Originally posted by L. R. William Spencer:
I gotta be honest: with every time I listen to these three albums, I am becoming more and more convinced that this is the best band of the decade.
They're in the top 10 anyway.
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They're pretty good, but they're no Radiohead.  Now, excuse me, but I'm gonna go listen to an album of Thom Yorke making armpit farts. Pure genius. Seriously, I think I'm more nerdy and excited over the Hold Steady than any band in recent memory, to the point of searching out non-album tracks and finding lives shows online. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who don't get it, and I can understand why it's not for everyone, but it hits all the right chords for me. |
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| Posts: 3875 | Location: ATL, GA | Registered: 25 May 2004 | |
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Ouch, so much Radiohead hating! Anyway, I really love The Hold Steady. It's awesome to have balls-to-the-wall rock and roll with lyrics that are actually interesting and well-written. I NEED to see them live.
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| Posts: 232 | Location: Portland, OR | Registered: 20 February 2006 | |
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quote: Originally posted by L. R. William Spencer:
I gotta be honest: with every time I listen to these three albums, I am becoming more and more convinced that this is the best band of the decade.
Agreed. Seriously their music channels all the music of youthful exuberance and all the words which capture the redemption and the degradation involved in lives pushed to the limits of drunken excess and junkie desperation. |
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quote: Originally posted by in limbo:
Ouch, so much Radiohead hating!
Completely tongue-in-cheek (although I really didn't care for Yorke's solo record). I was just referencing a point made elsewhere about how every thread in the Forums is, at heart, a Radiohead thread. |
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| Posts: 3875 | Location: ATL, GA | Registered: 25 May 2004 | |
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quote: Originally posted by philosopherEric:
Seriously, I think I'm more nerdy and excited over the Hold Steady than any band in recent memory, to the point of searching out non-album tracks and finding lives shows online. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who don't get it, and I can understand why it's not for everyone, but it hits all the right chords for me.
Same here. The only way I could express to my girlfriend what I felt for The Hold Steady was to tell her I have them on a pedestal just slightly shorter than Tom Waits'. That was big news in the [leland] household. And if it were for everyone, they would be called Radiohead. Duh. |
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| Posts: 1652 | Location: Philadelphia, PA | Registered: 15 September 2004 | |
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quote: Like one Rolling Stone writer said:
Damn it Hold Steady, how can you be so good?!?
Five bucks says three people here just stopped being fans. |
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| Posts: 1652 | Location: Philadelphia, PA | Registered: 15 September 2004 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Il Mago:
The Hold Steady have proven one thing to me. There's a fine line between cheese and greatness. In the last ten years, if I heard music like this, I would have laughed it off. It's corny riff-rock, and classic rock no less. But for some reason I don't think Boys and Girls is cheese. Somehow they hit all the right notes with me. It's exceptional....but so many bar bands cheese me off...I'm a little confused. Like one Rolling Stone writer said:
Damn it Hold Steady, how can you be so good?!?
It took me a while to decide why I felt the same why as you, and it's definitely the lyrics. Anyone can play pretty-sounding chords. Not many people can write songs like Craig Finn can: I'm counting them on one hand: Jeff Mangum, Jeff Tweedy, Bob Dylan, Thom Yorke.... and I'm out.
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