Mmm. Some good mentions so far. Polvo, Rodan, Don Caballero, etc. Let's not forget June of '44 or Shipping News. And Slint who are sort of a precursor to math rock.
I'd also like to bring attention to 90 Day Men's first album (It(Is)It) Critical Band, which is fantastic and severely underrated.
Oh, and for those who dig Pinback (not very math-rocky in my opinion), I would suggest another project of Rob Crow's: Thingy. It's like...math pop. Much darker and more off-kilter than Pinback. A lot better too.
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Originally posted by krugulitis: i just saw some philip glass stuff being performed at UCSD (sadly, i cannot recall what). he was in attendance, and it was awesome.
Not sure why Philip Glass got brought up in this thread, but that's rad. I was thinking of attending the show myself but wasn't able to make it.
I'm not the biggest Glass fan in the world, I prefer other minimalists like Reich and Terry Riley in general. But he does have some great pieces.
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on the math rock front battles has been my favorite album of this year (maybe of all music this year).
Agreed.
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but check out "growing" by sleeping people- pretty damn good as far as new math rock is concerned.
Oh, right on. I liked their first album to a fair degree and didn't even realize they had a new one out. I shall keep my eye out for it.
Go there and listen to "A Spoonful of Slurry" and "Last Smile for Jaron."
i disagree, i think that battles is just an evolution from math rock. sure they delve into other genres and experiment outside the realm of strictly math rock sounds, but they still utilize several techniques of math rock. ian williams, battles guitarist, played with don caballero and still uses a very similar style of playing (that is actually emulated by tyondai braxton( the other guitarist of battles). also, dave konopka, bassist and guitarist for battles, used to play with lynx, another great math rock group. i don't think these are coincidences - if you listen to their past work you can here it in battles because battles at their core is a math rock group.
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by the end of tonight really lets me down on their recordings. i mean they are not terrible by any means, but compared to their live show it is nothing. they were one of the best bands i have ever seen live, and a complete surprise (an opening band), but they fail to represent this live.
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Originally posted by Portable Joystick: Mmm. Some good mentions so far. Polvo, Rodan, Don Caballero, etc. Let's not forget June of '44 or Shipping News. And Slint who are sort of a precursor to math rock.
I'd also like to bring attention to 90 Day Men's first album (It(Is)It) Critical Band, which is fantastic and severely underrated.
Oh, and for those who dig Pinback (not very math-rocky in my opinion), I would suggest another project of Rob Crow's: Thingy. It's like...math pop. Much darker and more off-kilter than Pinback. A lot better too.
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Originally posted by krugulitis: i just saw some philip glass stuff being performed at UCSD (sadly, i cannot recall what). he was in attendance, and it was awesome.
Not sure why Philip Glass got brought up in this thread, but that's rad. I was thinking of attending the show myself but wasn't able to make it.
I'm not the biggest Glass fan in the world, I prefer other minimalists like Reich and Terry Riley in general. But he does have some great pieces.
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on the math rock front battles has been my favorite album of this year (maybe of all music this year).
Agreed.
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but check out "growing" by sleeping people- pretty damn good as far as new math rock is concerned.
Oh, right on. I liked their first album to a fair degree and didn't even realize they had a new one out. I shall keep my eye out for it.
heavy vegetable is also pretty cool, if you dig thingy. i still think pinback has math elements, but they are definitely couched pretty deeply in pop dynamics.
i brought up glass because the post right before mine actually brought up reich (as you again did).
anyone a fan of the edmund fitzgerald or their new project foals (much more dance and post punk oriented)?
Posts: 513 | Location: San Diego | Registered: 26 November 2007
Originally posted by krugulitis: heavy vegetable is also pretty cool, if you dig thingy.
Ha, yeah, I've been aware of them and have heard they're good for quite awhile but have never really listened to them, for some odd reason. But thanks for the recommendation.
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i brought up glass because the post right before mine actually brought up reich (as you again did).
I understand. I didn't mean to come across as confrontational. Just found this thread an odd place to find a discussion on Philip Glass, although I'm more than happy to participate.
Originally posted by krugulitis: heavy vegetable is also pretty cool, if you dig thingy.
Ha, yeah, I've been aware of them and have heard they're good for quite awhile but have never really listened to them, for some odd reason. But thanks for the recommendation.
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i brought up glass because the post right before mine actually brought up reich (as you again did).
I understand. I didn't mean to come across as confrontational. Just found this thread an odd place to find a discussion on Philip Glass, although I'm more than happy to participate.
no worries, i wasn't meaning to sound confrontational either. i think i came off as sounding short because i keep jumping back to the research paper i am writing right now and i wasn't paying too much attention to how i was writing what i was writing. anyways, i am going back to my finals week tedium!
Posts: 513 | Location: San Diego | Registered: 26 November 2007
Erm...Casket Lottery? I think they were math rock.
One guy who kinda has math rock tendencies, though they are very subtle, is Frank Black - his solo work and his stuff with the Pixies. They don't put it on display, like strictly math rock bands, but some of their timing and chord progressions can be kinda complex. Just my 2 cents.
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i am pretty curious to hear their full length debut (out in march i think). david andrew sitek, a favorite of mine, produced the album, but foals complained about his "spacey" mix and subsequently ditched it (an odd choice for producer given that they state a preference for clean guitars on their myspace). they ended up remixing it themselves. their live 12" any good?
Posts: 513 | Location: San Diego | Registered: 26 November 2007
Originally posted by krugulitis: Grand Wizard of Internetland: I don't know if this doesn't already exist, but we should get a math rock thread going.
Don Cab, Turing Machine, Lynx...
favorites? overrated?
Lets get it started!
Speaking of Don Cab, the new album leaked and it's sounding surprisingly good. Not too original on the math rock front but still solid... actually, incredibly solid.
I will throw Shellac out there as Math-Rock. Or Math-noise-rock. Or some such variation on the term. Either way, on three-piece should sound as tightly wound as Shellac do.
And i think if you look into Battles' earlier EP's, you'll find that they are really easily defined as a math-rock band.
I'm thinking Lightning Bolt has some major math-rock tendency, and so do Giddy Motors (especially their drummer). That's more on the Math-Punk spectrum.
Also, Drive Like Jehu are an obvious choice here for Math-Punk progenitors.
What about Crainium? It might be too loose to be considered math-rock, but i kind of dig that whole dissonant mess of interesting time signatures.
Minutemen i think would be a really good precursor to math-rock if anyone's interested.
And what about Shining? Not the black/death metal band, but the jazz-infused band on Rune Grammafon (sp.?), or are they one in the same?
Posts: 460 | Location: California | Registered: 06 March 2008
Originally posted by krugulitis: Grand Wizard of Internetland: I don't know if this doesn't already exist, but we should get a math rock thread going.
Don Cab, Turing Machine, Lynx...
favorites? overrated?
Lets get it started!
Speaking of Don Cab, the new album leaked and it's sounding surprisingly good. Not too original on the math rock front but still solid... actually, incredibly solid.
eh, i dunno. there are a few songs that i liked, but some things through me off (like the horrific vocals). i'm going to give it another listen, but the first time through wasn't promising.
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