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oh, and I might have some CDRs to send you if you are still doing that column at DOA.

If you've got stuff to send, I'd love to hear it. Email me joed@adequacy.net and just say in your email that it is you (sicnarf) and I'll send you my address. I'm trying to do the column bi-weekly right now. I'm working on the third installment as we speak but I got caught up working on my review for the new Bjork record that's going up tomorrow.

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If everyone felt that way though, music in general would be dispiccably boring. Every once in a while you've got to shake things up, make it more interesting.

Totally but should you change just because you've done 3 albums or so that are similar and oh now its time to try something new? Lou Reed tried that he came up with Metal Machine Music which is wildly different from the rest of his albums but not necessarily a worthwhile listening experience.

Is it worth listening to an album several times purely based on the fact that its unlike anything else in the artists catalogue even if you don't enjoy listening to it. Personally I only listen to things I enjoy. I wouldnt torture myself with Metal Machine Music just because its a unique listening experience.

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I got caught up working on my review for the new Bjork record that's going up tomorrow.

off topic: who do you write for? i'd be curious to read your review

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Lou Reed tried that he came up with Metal Machine Music which is wildly different from the rest of his albums but not necessarily a worthwhile listening experience.

I've already stated my love for Metal Machine Music and argued on its behalf elsewhere in this forum. As for the case of artistic development, you happened to pick a wild card. Not every artist needs to have a record that doesn't fit with their catalog, but over the course of time, true artists change. I can't think of one worthwhile artist that has remained static for the course of their entire career.

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off topic: who do you write for? i'd be curious to read your review

I am the Music Editor for Delusions of Adequacy (www.adequacy.net)

Hey JB, I noticed on your excellent "small wonders" section of DOA you mentioned Machinefabriek. I just started downloading some of his material (my excuse is that it is hell to find his stuff) and I love what I'm hearing. A great mix of ambient with lo-fi production, tape noise etc...

He has two great records that are more widely available than the CD-Rs. Both Marijn and Weleer are on the Lampse label. Easily obtainable through Forced Exposure or Boomkat. Most of his other stuff that I have I got from Soulseek. Limited pressings are awesome and terrible. While they enable the artists to do some really interesting things with packaging and format, sometimes it means that really good music is hard to come by.

Seems to me that if no one knew that Avey and Kria's backwards album wasn't, perhaps, initially intended to be backwards or that it was reversed at all there wouldn't be such a negative fuss. I am absolutely enjoying it. Ambient treat indeed.

I don't know where all of you find your 'avant-garde' info at online but I just came across a seemingly apt blog on the subject: noiseweek.blogspot.com.

Perhaps that is a good opener; is there any websites yall find particularly helpful when searching out avant garde info?

I tend to hear about Avante-Garde through the artist's catalog and collaborations (I first heard Greg Davis through his Keith Fullerton Whitman collab). Still, I have found some good online resources to check out:

Dusted
www.dustedmagazine.com

DOA
www.adequacy.net

Cyclic Defrost Magazine (online)
http://www.cyclicdefrost.com/blog/

Igloo Magazine (online)
http://www.igloomag.com/

Bagatellen
http://www.bagatellen.com/

That's all I can think of at the moment. Happy Hunting!

Dusted is great and I will also check out the Forced Exposure employee top tens every once in a while. Generally if a record ends up on more than two of their lists it's at least worth checking out.

As for the Avey and Kria record Sicnarf, I'll give you that it isn't nearly as terrible (even backwards) as Pitchfork's Mark Richardson scored it. I still like it better forward so far, however I'll give it another listen. Maybe it'll grow on me.

By the way, have you guys heard Blues Control yet? They have an LP coming out on Holy Mountain. It's awesome.

Would any of you Fennesz-fans be willing to..."loan" me Endless Summer??

I refuse to succumb to downloading it for free, and yet I just got a postcard from Borders saying that my order of Endless Summer was cancelled because the album is out of print...I tried to buy the re-release

Borders is full of shit. It was re-released in January of this year with two bonus tracks and different cover art, mixed to sound more like the vinyl version. You can buy it online from any good distro like Forced Exposure or Boomkat.

I just saw Animal Collective last night. Absolutely mind blowing and amazing, of course. It was just Avey, Panda and Geo and they were all on samplers/mixers with Avey and Panda occasionally using drums as well - no guitars. It was an incredible set. They played "Hey Light" from Here Comes the Indian, "Loch Raven" (my favourite) from Feels and "Leaf House", "Who Could Win a Rabbit" and "Sweet Road" from Sung Tongs which is suprising if you are familiar with their live aesthetic. All of those songs were very different except for "Loch Raven" But very good.

The new songs are so incredible. It was very repetative in the vein of Panda's new cd but with the energy of feels. I am on the biggest AC high. Insane.

Now I'm even more excited about seeing them (Animal Collective) next week when they come to Knoxville.

Sicnarf (or anyone else here for that matter), have you seen this video ? It's amazing. Reminds me a lot of Beaches and Canyons era Black Dice, but more progressive and energetic. Really great stuff.

im just letting everyone know that aquarius records is your one stop shop for all things 'avant-garde'.. ive spent countless hours just listening to the streams they've posted. unreal site, and the prices aren't bad. difficult thing is deciding which cd's to purchase, cripes. currently i have:

axolotl - memory theatre
plants - double infinity
william basinski - disintergration loops vol. 1

might add a couple more and hope the visa can take the hit.

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Originally posted by GG Allin:
im just letting everyone know that aquarius records is your one stop shop for all things 'avant-garde'.. ive spent countless hours just listening to the streams they've posted. unreal site, and the prices aren't bad. difficult thing is deciding which cd's to purchase, cripes. currently i have:

axolotl - memory theatre
plants - double infinity
william basinski - disintergration loops vol. 1

might add a couple more and hope the visa can take the hit.

That's actually really strange, because I've bought all of those records off of Aquarius Records. It is a great site. I think the best record I've bought off that site though, is Iran's self-titled debut.

So, I have just started listening to Axolotl - (at least listening to MP3s and heavily researching online) and I have some preferences as far as his releases go but was wondering if there are any of you avant heads out there have a particular favourite. (I'm favouring the Way Blank samples I have heard and then am enjoying Telesma).

Also wondering if there are any Sightings fans here? I have just started (in the same way as with Axolotl) started searching them out.


Still loving Avey's over Panda's.

I love both Sightings and Axolotl. As far as Axolotl is concerned, Memory Theatre came out on Important this year and collects several vinyl only releases. It's great. I have several Sightings records but their last one from 2005, End Times, is by far my favorite.

Raccoo-oo-oon's Behold Secret Kingdom is the new album of the year

It is amazing, my album of the year as well. Definetely recommend it to anyone that posts in this topic.