Another double disc release?! Fantastic. I can't get enough of Stars Of The Lid...any information on this new release you could link me to? I've never heard of it until now.
Originally posted by jonathanbrisby: I hear tons of great things about that Goslings record. I haven't heard it yet though. Everytime I try to get it off Soulseek my download fails for some reason or something happens. I'd love to actually buy a copy of it but I can't find it and I just dropped a major amount of money on all the stuff that is coming out tomorrow. I had completely forgotten about the Rhys Chatham, Glenn Branca, and Mum releases on top of all the other stuff I mentioned previously.
brisby, if your still looking to score that goslings cd i found a site that has the file zipped up.. doin't really feel like posting it here but if you PM me i can give you the address to the site
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Originally posted by joji: I dunno if this has been talked about it this thread yet, but The Goslings Grandeur of Hair rocks. I really, really like it.
aye, what a record.. got a question for you, any other albums you can suggest that fall along the same lines as the goslings album? id like to expand my noise collection ..
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I've got a few I like, but Grandeur of Hair is the best noise album I've heard. 'Pleasure Ground' by Prurient is pretty good, as is 'The Long Salt' by Mouthus. Are you only looking for loud, abrasive stuff? Cause I tend to listen to electronic and ambient stuff over abrasive noise when I listen to avant garde.
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Originally posted by joji: I've got a few I like, but Grandeur of Hair is the best noise album I've heard. 'Pleasure Ground' by Prurient is pretty good, as is 'The Long Salt' by Mouthus. Are you only looking for loud, abrasive stuff? Cause I tend to listen to electronic and ambient stuff over abrasive noise when I listen to avant garde.
im in the same boat as you.. tend to lean towards the ambient electronic side of things. i don't mind occasionally getting into some louder noise albums but nothing too abrasive.. in terms of how much noise I can tolerate, last years offering from Wolf Eyes was near my limit. I'll make sure to check out those two albums you suggested, i've only heard good things about them. While on the topic of ambient electronic, have you checked out Jan Jelinek's Tierbeobachtungen? it sort of reminds me of the disintergration loops (but with more bloops and beeps of course).. highly recommended if you haven't checked it out
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i don't mind occasionally getting into some louder noise albums but nothing too abrasive..
I second that, but perhaps for different reasons. I have a problem with noise not exactly when it is 'too abrasive,' but rather when all it offers is sonic aggression. I mean I can go hang around construction sites, run various power tools, etc and get better, louder, more authentic noise than listening to some prick who is just out to be 'confrontational.'
Noise like that would be better called antagonistic than avant garde, because you're not on the leading edge of anything simply by virtue of being annoying for the sake of being abrasive.
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any other albums you can suggest that fall along the same lines as the goslings album? id like to expand my noise collection ..
If you want to expand your horizons - I would highly recommend Karlheinz Stockhausen's Mikrophonie I&II. Very bizarre stuff. He uses ring modulators extensively on it so it is somewhat abrasive but if you can look at a copy of the score it has an amazingly theatrical quality to it - sometimes the singers are babbling in an Italian accent, or cooing and cackling like crones, or just plain babbling.
Also, have you heard the Residents? They're an incognito group around since the early/mid 70s. Meet the Residents (complete with mutilated Beatles album cover), Eskimo, or Not Available are all worth a listen.
Chrome is another older group well worth a listen. Their 1979 album Half Lip Machine Moves has an almost VU-ish chug to it (if VU were a proto industrial band), with bizarre interludes and sonic experimentation not unlike This Heat (which you should also listen to if you haven't already.).
@GG Allin Here are some other good noise artists I think you would like (some may be slightly abrasive, handle with caution).
Emil Beaulieau -(self-proclaimed "Greatest Living Noise Artist" and a real nutcase. I love his brand of cut up noise. Seek out "Moonlight In Vermont or the collection "Memories").
The Dead C - An amazing noise rock band (definitely an influence on The Goslings). They put a heavy stress on texture over any kind of melodic content. Themes are dark and mysterious. Try to find "Tusk" or "The White House."
Hair Police - These guys are pretty harsh but they know how to craft interesting songs within that rather limited framework. For a first time listen I would try their amazing "Constantly Terrified." It stands as one of my favorite noise records. The sense of foreboding is palpable (do not listen with the lights off).
Do I need to mention Merzbow? "Pulse Demon" was my first harsh noise disc and it set the watermark pretty high. This album stills bleaches my skull clean on the one hundredth playthrough. What if an entire city's worth of noise was smashed together, accelerated, and distorted? "Tokyo Times Ten" indeed!
Nautical Almanac - Very inventive psychedelic avante-noise group. Most of their instruments are hand-crafted and their songs run the gamut from mini-moog noise-bop (see "Song" from Transcriptedivions) to spoken word tape-loops (try the 30 minute epic "Ocularis" from Rooting For The Microbes).
To Live And Shave In L.A. - I love this group solely for Tom Smith's voice. Though a lot of their stuff is Dadaist in the Nurse With Wound sense of surreal abstraction and insanity, they just released a great new atmospheric record "Noon And Eternity" which is absolutely stunning. It's a good starting point for this band, but their magnum opus is the breathtaking "The Wigmaker In 18th Century Williamsburg." Don't be put off by the length, it's an exhausting listen, pouring over with ideas, content, emotion, and creation. Brilliant.
big thanks to both vitunkrapula and couldbanyone for some great suggestions. it's now time to immerse myself in some new finds.. i must say how great it is to have people who don't mind taken time and helping others discover new sounds. this is what makes this the best topic on the forums here. keep on posting !
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brisby, if your still looking to score that goslings cd i found a site that has the file zipped up.. doin't really feel like posting it here but if you PM me i can give you the address to the site
Thanks for the offer. I found a site where I got it in a zip file. I love it by the way, totally awesome.
Oh that Goslings cd is is unstoppable isn't it. Just amazing. Any Jesu fans here. I can't necissarily say that I am even though I have the first self titled album and like it enough. Wondering if anyone has heard the new album.
Additionally, I just got Excepters KA and was blown away. It is amazing. However I get the feeling that they aren't super consitant and I think it was you JB that mentioned they played a horrible live set. Should I stop with KA or is there anything else worthy from them.
PS - I'm in love with all of these. Thinking about marrying them. 5. Aufgehoben - Messidor 10. Marcus Fjellström - Gebrauchsmusik 11. Jan Jelinek - Tierbeobachtungen 16. Benoit Pioulard - Precis
Should I stop with KA or is there anything else worthy from them?
You can probably stop with KA. I haven't heard anything stunning from them since. It's so sad -Excepter and Sunburned Hand of the Man are both kind of like that. I'm not sure if they've lost it or if they're just releasing too damned much material thoughtlessly.
On the contrary, I think Excepter have released more than just one great album. I really think Excepter's Alternation was one of the best records released last year.Throne is their most ethereal, mesmerizing record (I believe it to be superior to Ka). Although I still love Ka (mostly for the amazing Vacation EP tracks tacked on the the front of the record) I think Excepter has much better things in store, and they are evolving towards an even stranger form (twisted dub-ambient-noise-pop?)
As far as Excepter is concerned, I really like Throne and KA. I hate the direction they're going now, which is what I saw them play live when it was terrible. I think Vitunkrapula hit the mark well with that last remark about the warbling. They had two members on Throne and KA that are no longer with them and I think that made all the difference.
Has anybody heard the new Boris (titled Rainbow)? I'm sure you've at least heard about it, it's getting pretty great reviews across the board. I downloaded it today and have only gotten through track 1 and I'm not completely blown away. I came in expecting something similar to Pink but it's something entirely different, which shouldn't surprise me looking back on Boris' broad catalogue. I haven't seen many, if any, posts on regarding the album and wondering what others thought about it
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Actually GGAllin, I'm totally unfamiliar with Boris period. I know they have alternated between drone and noise-rockish leanings but I really haven't taken an interest in them. Should I check them out or is it not worth my time?
Originally posted by CouldBAnyone: Actually GGAllin, I'm totally unfamiliar with Boris period. I know they have alternated between drone and noise-rockish leanings but I really haven't taken an interest in them. Should I check them out or is it not worth my time?
Good question. I don't know if i'm necessarily qualified to answer it but i'll try my best. It's hard to determine whether or not you'll enjoy them (don't know much about your tastes) but if you're new to them I'd suggest starting with Pink which is easily their most accessible album. Lots of different styles are incorporated on the disc, like shoegaze (farewell), hard-rock (woman of the screen) and drone (blackout). I have three other albums by them (feedbacker, absolutego and amplifier worship) which are all drone-based. I'd go with Amplifier Worship next then Feedbacker then Absolutego. Those aren't all the albums in their catalogue and I know that some of the others are much more accessible than the ones I currently own. If you enjoy the drone-based off of Pink then I'd venture further into the world of Boris..
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I think the new Boris & Michio Kurihara record, Rainbow is the best thing Boris has ever done. I am a huge fan and have tons of Boris stuff so I feel pretty qualified to back that up too. The record is not nearly as blown-out rock sounding as Pink so if you're looking for stuff like that, look elsewhere. I am not a huge fan of that record anyway, I prefer stuff like Flood, Dronevil, and Akuma No Uta personally. A considerable portion of Rainbow sees Boris working in mid-tempo rock mode with Michio Kurihara playing Jimi Hendrix style solos over the top of it. Pretty much every person I've played the record for, even people who could give a shit about Boris, have fallen in love with it instantly. The first track bears a striking resemblance to Pink opener "Farewell," but with Kurihara's screeching feedback over the top. Awesome stuff. Highly recommended.
