Do yourself an anti-favor and go look at some UK messageboards. Or youtube a Muse video. Check out some amazon user record reviews maybe.

Muse fans and others have apparently taken to comparing these two bands. Specifically, Muse fans have become stuck on saying that MUSE IS BETTER. This fact would not be thread-worthy if it was just one comment I saw in one place. This is like a trend I've noticed going on.

As I'm sure every last one of you knows, it's impossible for anyone with any knowledge of music at all to even think about the question of Muse "vs." Radiohead" without cold laughing out loud. But seriously, check some of this shit out (one example)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=q-c94VVU7zc

Read the comments, but check your blood pressure first. Of course we can't reach through our computers and actually HURT these people, which would be ideal. So what else can be done?

What would even be a proper analogy for this kind of comparison? I guess they are both "bands."

Saying that a diarrhea-stained plastic Camaro that was just pulled out of somebody's ass is "better" than a fully-operational space-faring battleship? They're both "vehicles."

Hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but theres already a seven page discussion on the whole Radiohead vs. Muse debacle right here and god knows we don't need anymore discussions on this, as everyone should know that Radiohead is clearly better in every way.

I was just going to say oh my God, Jesus Christ it's already appeared on the metacritic forums. What is to be done. You're not bursting my bubble, this isn't a thread to discuss Muse vs. Radiohead - it's a thread made to draw attention to this hulking, infected abscess in the musical consciousness. To diagnose and maybe attempt to (at least locally) treat the sickness.

Quote from said discussion

"I could even argue that Radiohead borrowed a few tricks from Muse on 'Hail to the Thief'."

I'll catch you guys later, I'm gonna go stick my head in the oven.

I posted this in there, but I'm gonna post it in here too.

Muse are arrogant, TALENT-LESS. TALENT. LESS. TALENTLESS Eurotrash posers with waxed asses who do expensive drugs they could NEVER afford without having nearly shed their thin, watery, tainted blood trying to find ways to adulterate and repackage Radiohead's music.

The fact that they've moved somewhat on from doing that ALL of the time to doing things like mixing Prince and Prodigy (see: Supermassive Black Hole...dear Jesus it's like the audio equivalent of drinking the vomit of someone who exists on bad wine and cocaine) does not make them better, it makes them worse.

Muse is one of the most nauseating bands that exists today. Everything about them makes my head hurt. Calling them "evil robotic metrosexual mannequins" is to lavish the kind of excessive flattery on them that is usually reserved for murderous, temperamental dictators.

It's not just his voice, which evokes both arrogance and cowardice, over-confidence and weakness all at once. It's not the craven, disgusting, hollow lyricism like that in "Invincible" - which sounds like some poor girl's manager lulling her into a sense of empowerment and security while he slips something in her drink (the song also includes the same fucking military drum-rolls that have been used in "motivational" or "epic" songs since the beginning of time).

It's not just all that.

It's those guitars. I'd describe the riffs of their more recent work this way: "NIN for club-hopping, fake-tanned, soul-dead bad-music-minions." This isn't just bad, it's probably worse than 90% of what's on popular mainstream radio today.

When people talk about their "instrumental prowess" I'd like to say I laugh. Really I don't laugh or even react. Not outwardly. I just become a little more sad. Inside.

The obnoxiously ostentatious, fake, transparent attempts to display "virtuosity" like in the wankin'-ass intro to "In Your World" should fill anyone who's played guitar for more than three years with contempt and disdain. But Muse is just that vain. They have an obsessive need to create even more of a spectacle of themselves, and to that end they do things like pretend to be good at playing their instruments.

The clear drumset from the video for Starlight is enough to give me a headache on its own.

I want to go on, but then I don't. I don't have a good way to encapsulate it all, but I'll try: listening to Muse is like someone injecting hair product INTO MY BRAIN. But it can't be encapsulated, except maybe in a cyanide capsule. Fuck this band.

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Muse is a band that I have always hated (mainly for the reasons mentioned). I aided your tirade with a simple "If Can, Mahavishnu, Magma, King Crimpson, etc etc. knew that Muse were being lumped in with prog, they'd probably be very distraught"