Leaky leaky.

I like it so far.
It's very much in the same vein as Challengers, and definitely less immediate than The Slow Wonder. I love the opening track, but I'm having trouble finding many other moments to latch on to.

This album pretty much defines mediocrity, not even a single catchy and awesome pop songs like on the previous album. Why A.C.

It's never good when I can barely get to the end of an album on first listen. First impression is that the first song is very good and everything else is incredibly boring.

When I first heard it I thought it was a bit better than The Slow Wonder, but after reading these posts I thought there was something wrong with me so I went back to Slow Wonder, but was pretty underwhelmed with that album as well.

I guess I just need my Bejar and Case to accompany my Newman. I wrote on another thread that I find Newman's voice to be pretty unengaging and while his songs are awesome they are pretty one dimensional. Bejar's songs are usually my favorite on NP albums (Jackie, Streets of Fire, Chump Change, Myriad Harbour, Testament to Youth in Verse, Jackie Dressed in Cobras)

I think the problem is his lyrics. He usually just throws a bunch of interesting words and phrases together, over the top of his songs. This often works well, particularly on his ultra-catchy rave-ups (WTF is a letter from an occupant?) but it can't really support the more restrained stuff he's been writing lately.

I loved Challengers, it's my favourite NPs record, and I'm a huge NPs fan. The quieter songs on there were almost always excellent, and they had the lyrics to carry them off. My first impression of the new solo album is that the lyrics are too tossed off to justify the lack of dynamics.

But I need to give it more of a chance. Some of my favourite albums I found boring on the first few listens.

Certainly better than the new Andrew Bird.

I'm really enjoying this album. Sounds gorgeous to my ears. Strong melodies, has a nice atmosphere, lots of delightful touches tucked into the corners of the music. I think this album hangs nicely with Newman's catalogue...The Collected Works is playing right now..oh my what a great song.

"Bejar's songs are usually my favorite on NP albums"

"I loved Challengers, it's my favourite NPs record,"

I know everyone has a right to an opinon. But people: your opinions are poisoning the world. Seriously.

Why does that "leaky leaky" shit you opened with make me wish so fervently that the RIAA or somebody will randomly take immediate, severe and litigious notice of just your illegal downloading? Did that not raise anybody else's hackles like it did mine? What are you, being cute or something?

I like the album cover. And Newman is the only member of N.P. who matters. Unless you have had some sort of surgery in order to develop a taste for that pretentious nasal interloper and his disgusting poetry. Dan Bejar? UGH. Hearing his voice is like inhaling a dog fart. Myriad Harbor is the only non-throwaway song he's ever contributed to the band.

I agree that it's quite a stretch to say that Challengers is the best album in their catalog, but I would argue that Dan Bejar is a pretty great songwriter and has written quite more than one good song for them. What are you, retarded or something?

Challengers owns, f the haters

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Originally posted by BlackGravel:

Blah blah blah I think I can write. Blah blah blah you deleted my thread. Blah blah blah The Wrens are good.

Always a pleasure to hear from you, BG. Can I offer you a nog?

Anyway, the reason I prefer Challengers to their other albums is that it's more cohesive as an album, and it sounds like it was produced by a BAND, rather than a collaboration of talented individuals. It shows depth that a lot of people didn't know they had, and frankly I think people found it off-putting for that reason.

Particularly those, like BlackGravel, who appreciate music on a more superficial level.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: youandwhosearmy,

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Originally posted by yuleandwhosearmy:

One time I had sex with my dad.

Yikes!

I think it's funny that you'd attempt to impersonate me by typing something like "I think I can write." It's funny because you so obviously said it because you are impressed with the way I express myself. Your attempt at a jab made me look really cool and you look really jealous. Whoops.


Challengers isn't a "more cohesive" album. That is a thing you learned to say from other people. It is a difficult thing to disprove and you said it in order to be wrong and seem right. It is just an album that you prefer because your taste isn't very good.

As it happens, just this past Saturday night I was suffering through the ipods of two college girls who (as is not uncommon with their kind) have annoying and superficial taste in "indie rock." They both would not shut the fuck up about the Challengers album. These are the really annoying ones who ask you if you like My Morning Jacket and used to play "The Way We Get By" over and over. The kind that for some reason gravitates toward an awesome thing like good music, but likes all the worst parts of it for all the wrong reasons. Your kind, it would seem.

Having said that...Challengers is cool. You aren't, though. I'll take that nog anyway.

I'm an editor. It's my job to deal with people who think they can write, but can't. I've learned to recognise the signs.

Also, no one here is going to believe that college girls talk to you.

What do you think of Get Guilty?

Getting angry at people for "liking music for the wrong reasons" seems very petty to me.

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Originally posted by Away in a Chamber (k):
Getting angry at people for "liking music for the wrong reasons" seems very petty to me.

Mostly this.

Though I do enjoy the new Bird album.

I'm a petty sort of guy.


A tip for army: if you're ever editing internet argument posts, don't let your guy say shit like "lol girls were talking to u AS IF"

It makes it seem like you think interacting with girls is rare, or difficult or something. It isn't. It happens to most people.

Get Guilty seems good. It is far too early to tell.

Challengers is the most accessible of their albums. Although it might not be their best, it's the easiest one to just pick up and listen to. Which is probably why it appeals to the people who are newcomers to the band and to indie music as a whole.

Please, for the love of God, don't argue that one person's opinion is wrong anytime in the future, because I'll guarantee that no one will take you seriously.

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Originally posted by modestaretaloger:
Please, for the love of God, don't argue that one person's opinion is wrong anytime in the future, because I'll guarantee that no one will take you seriously.

Shhh no one takes him seriously anyway, but he's the entertainment. I don't know what I'd do if BlackGravel wasn't around. Shoot fish in a barrel, I guess.

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Originally posted by BlackGravel:
"Bejar's songs are usually my favorite on NP albums"

"I loved Challengers, it's my favourite NPs record,"

I know everyone has a right to an opinon. But people: your opinions are poisoning the world. Seriously.

Why does that "leaky leaky" shit you opened with make me wish so fervently that the RIAA or somebody will randomly take immediate, severe and litigious notice of just your illegal downloading? Did that not raise anybody else's hackles like it did mine? What are you, being cute or something?

I like the album cover. And Newman is the only member of N.P. who matters. Unless you have had some sort of surgery in order to develop a taste for that pretentious nasal interloper and his disgusting poetry. Dan Bejar? UGH. Hearing his voice is like inhaling a dog fart. Myriad Harbor is the only non-throwaway song he's ever contributed to the band.

Haha, this is a classic post. I think you're crazy sometimes, BG, but your posts keep things interesting, that's for sure. I agree with just about everything you said for what it's worth.

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Originally posted by modestaretaloger:
Challengers is the most accessible of their albums. Although it might not be their best, it's the easiest one to just pick up and listen to. Which is probably why it appeals to the people who are newcomers to the band and to indie music as a whole.

Please, for the love of God, don't argue that one person's opinion is wrong anytime in the future, because I'll guarantee that no one will take you seriously.

Seriously, dudes, I think that once you get accustomed to BG and take it for granted that he's going to say inflammatory things. When he keeps his bellicose tendencies in check, which I think he's done in this thread, he's an asset for the forums.