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Enthusiast |
Also, serious e-drama.
It pays to kill anyone who has information. |
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Jedi |
No, not really. Unfortunately, some individuals aren't capable of making their opinions known without being a douchebad.  ---------------------------------- Employee of the month awards are the opiate of the masses. For the potheads Gang Starr |
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Know-It-All |
"You should seriously spend more time in real life, if you think that is the case. The internet is a medium for people to pretend that they are more important than they actually are. Unsurprisingly, you seem to really enjoy that part of it."
You are not very smart. But he does have maybe one point: my posts need to be either shorter, easier to understand or less alienating, because people don't seem to be actually reading through them. What would give anyone the idea that I like music more based on how "indie it sounds"? That's more or less the opposite of what I was saying in several of my posts. |
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Jedi |
Thanks for proving my point. Regarding "Bandwagon flaming," I'm not just now jumping on a 'bandwagon.' I've been giving you shit since the day your self-important ass entered this forum with your ridiculous rants about the wrens. You really need chill the fuck out and maybe you wouldn't catch so much flack. ---------------------------------- Employee of the month awards are the opiate of the masses. For the potheads Gang Starr |
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Jedi |
Dude. Why did you quote different parts of the same sentence three times? That's some slander for you. And just to be clear; when I used the term "indie" there, it wasn't as some kind of standard or seal of approval; it was referent to the conversation leading up to my post. I will concede that in this instance, the word "indie" does carry the connotation of being willfully non-conformist (aka not mainstream sounding or generic). To me, this band sound slightly out of the loop, as if they don't read much music press. They sound like they're still kind of emulating their favorite bands they listened to on the radio growing up. Such as Incubus. I bet they liked Incubus. Incubus, Incubus, Incubus. |
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Enthusiast |
Well, to be honest, that's how my mind centered it out. And really, what impact does it make on your life to chew me out? Either way, I repeatedly said that your TONE was bothering me; which was a wise thing to do, considering the amount of drama that goes on on these forums. Personally, I just don't like the way the word 'indie' is used. 9 times out of 10, it carries an air of pretentiousness to it that might not be intended. Perhaps it's diluted by the fact that 'indie' is actually popular now. People can't seem to grasp that. It pays to kill anyone who has information. |
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Jedi |
I love that this thread is three pages that really have very little to do with the Frightened Rabbits album.
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Apprentice Guru |
hahaha, are we still talking about the Frightened Rabbits? Is there a Scottish Incubus I've been missing out on or something? ==== What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun. |
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Know-It-All |
That Incubus comparison is just...wow. We should have some sort of competition to see if anyone can come up with something dumber than that.
Angelo: I'm proud of you for expressing yourself and everything, but you've got to pay closer attention if you really want to come at me like this. I'm sure you're on the ball enough to anticipate a response. So just, I don't know, say smarter stuff. It might mean actually learning a bit more about music...or irony...and then testing the waters again when you feel like you're ready. Can you get to that? |
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"Forum Moderator" Super Bad-Ass Jedi |
I like when BlackGravel runs out of (good?) arguments, he just resorts to calling people stupid. I wouldn't say he's stupid for doing that, but it's awfully immature.
----- We were wasps with new wings, now we're bugs in the jar. |
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Jedi |
Zzzzzzz
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Know-It-All |
i think it's funnier when he complains that people don't actually read through his posts when he is guilty of the exact same thing. rather than try to understand people's perspective, he jumps all over them. |
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Jedi |
We should have one to see who can't spot influences the best. I think you'd win. |
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Know-It-All |
Shouldn't you try sparing the "I like how" or "I love how" posts that don't mean anything and aren't based on anything? What's the point?
I didn't "run out of arguments" - the focus of the dialogue between Angelo and I is that he's either very stupid or very absentminded. His responses seem to compete with one another to most spectacularly demonstrate that he has failed to understand. If you had read anything that had been said by either of us, you'd notice that his own tactics were of the hollow attack variety, and so I responded in kind. Please, I mean. Folks, when you're out of your depth, the wisest option isn't to gang up with OTHER people who are ALSO out of their depth and fling little booger-sized zingers that don't even collectively add up to much. I'm not talking to all of you, but to those I am talking to: most of your posts are barely even there. I look at them and I see: "This isn't fair, one is not supposed to have all kinds of examples and substance to back up what one is saying. We have all decided that it is mean." "I feel uncomfortable because this guy makes me look dumb every time I say something." "I am frustrated because I don't like BlackGravel at all but every time I attempt to insult him I wind up looking like a 7th grader who listens to Pearl Jam." "I feel angry and impotent whenever I come into threads involving BlackGravel. My responses are totally ineffective and my arguments are immediately shot down. This is because I don't actually have arguments and I disagree with BlackGravel because I want to. I refuse to acknowledge this fact and instead get steadily more upset." Goathouse. There is not a single significant musical element shared between Incubus and Frightened Rabbit. The singers sound absolutely nothing alike. They hold notes differently, their range and inflection and their lyrics have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Instrumentally, Incubus is a borderline nu-metal band in which the vocalist (especially on past albums) will often rap. They mix in some jazzy drumming or guitar and phony atmospherics once in a while. They have crunchy distorted guitars at times, other times they have clean or acoustic John Frusciante wannabe guitar parts that are made up of unnecessarily adorned, extremely easy chord progressions. The lyrics are a mix of vaguely motivational platitudes, pseudo-mysticism and self-glorifying shit poetry. I'd have to think for a while to name two bands that have guitars, drums, and a singer who sound less alike than these two bands. You have postulated that Frightened Rabbit sounds like Incubus. Accordingly, you have been quietly removed from consideration in the debate. That's just the way things go. I'm not saying that you'll necessarily say something that stupid in every argument; maybe in some other thread you'll contribute something valuable. I'll even apologize (again) here for not just letting people off the hook. I assiduously pursue the propagation of ideas I consider to be valid and valuable. I'm not worried about the prevailing opinion about me, and so being a little audacious about it is not at all out of the question. Some of you get it. Some of you will never get it. I'm fine with that. |
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Enthusiast |
This is the way you should talk when trying to prove your opinino on people. As soon as you insult someone, you almost completely lose ALL merit to what you're trying to prove. I do agree with Incubus' jazzy tendencies, but I have not heard enough of them. hahahah I made the mistake of calling the thread "Frightened Rabbits" instead of "... Rabbit". Somebody shoot me... that or let's get back to talking about the album again, please. It's getting a bit ridiculous. It pays to kill anyone who has information. |
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Jedi |
No BlackGravel; you've attempted to loudly remove me from the debate all by yourself. The fact is, I have a right to my opinion (whatever you may say) that there are similarities between Incubus and their ilk, and Frightened Rabbit. Not only that, but I'm correct. No matter how hard you try to mask your ignorance on this matter, the fact remains: With only relatively modest changes, the first song on the FR album would not sound out of place on an Incubus album. So shut up before you give yourself an ulcer.
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"Forum Moderator" Super Bad-Ass Jedi |
Funny. When most of us read your posts we see: "I like to pretend I'm smart and belittle people on an internet forum." or "I'm the world's biggest douchebag." ----- We were wasps with new wings, now we're bugs in the jar. |
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Know-It-All |
I'm "pretending" I'm smart, huh Eric? You wouldn't care to engage me in any intellectual arena you could possibly conceive of, would you? Cause I'd be up for it. Like, maybe something you went to school for and I've never even heard of. You'd still be fucking nervous.
*EDIT - pause for emphasis* You just called me a douchebag and insinuated that I was stupid. Do me a favor, use your internet prowess/power to go back through my posts. Find the last time I attacked somebody who hadn't even addressed me like you just did. You are a hypocrite, EricG75. You're the internet equivalent of a crooked security guard at a shitty mall no one wants to shop at. Start doing your job instead and shut the fuck up. Goathouse, it's been over. Honestly. RSG - I know, right? Totally made that same plurality mistake myself a few times. It's not a very good name for a band either way. Everyone else - how about actually getting back to the Frightened Rabbit thing. |
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Jedi |
This album is FUCKING INCREDIBLE. While I disagree with your assessment of The Midnight Organ Fight, I want to sincerely thank you for your recommendations of Forest City Lovers and (especially) Jeremy Messersmith. I am loving both artists. This message has been edited. Last edited by: L. R. William Spencer, |
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Jedi |
This is the single funniest thread I have ever read. I never thought I'd ever say this, but I almost 100% agree with you, BlackGravel. The only thing I'd add to the whole music/lyrics vs. texture/effects debate is that (in my opinion) bands can make better songs by using textures and effects in ways that complement and add to the general purpose put forward by the music and lyrics. Do you agree? Having never heard any Incubus songs aside from that crapfest "Drive," I cannot comment directly on any supposed similarities between the two bands. I can say, however, that regardless of any actual musical similarities between the two bands, it may very well be that people compare the two because they evoke similar feelings or emotional responses in the listener. And that, my friend, is 100% subjective; you will never be able to prove otherwise. And, BlackGravel, as another person who knows and often uses big words in conversation and frequently encounters negative responses (even at an elite college), part of the reason people are responding negatively to your posts (aside from the unnecessarily authoritative tone and occasional person attacks) is that you seem to be using big words for no other reason than their length. That said, your arguments are usually impeccably structured; I would hazard a guess that you have some experience in debate. This message has been edited. Last edited by: L. R. William Spencer, |
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