hahaha!

I guess I got carried away a little...

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Originally posted by CandyFlossGirl:
hahaha!

I guess I got carried away a little...

Maybe, but I agree with your sentiment. Picking on a non-native English speaker is just the kind of bullying behavior that we have endured for the past eight years here in America, and I'm hoping may change in November. I'm going to assume that I am correct in my assertion that Clever would not have made the same remarks had he known sk is not a native English speaker. Otherwise, shame on him...

Ezatldude, you are correct actually. I always assume it's english-speakers (native english-speakers at that) who peruse this site because, well, I always imagined there would exist some kind of metacritic-type site in one's native language so that having to adapt to a language in which one isn't wholly familiar is not necessary (I guess i don't have the balls to go on a spanish-language message board, though i speak the language). I'm wrong in that assumption, apparently, and I honestly didn't intend my spoof to berate sk. In fact, i assumed he was American to be completely honest, so my ire and the tone was more directed toward stupid American's who can't articulate. I thought it was some high-school kid who didn't like using the letter "G" because he doesn't use it when he speaks.

That is all... and sorry once more.

Me...solving world diplomacy problems one post at a time.

And i commend any non-native english speaker who has the sac (or in the ladies' case, the female equivalent to a sac) to dive into these discussions. I really don't try to offend people unless, like i said, I think they deserve it.

CandyFlossGirl... I love you.

I'm gonna go ahead and delete my comment because it was rude and offensive. I really don't try to push people's buttons, i guess i'm just brash.

By the way, i can barely read chaucer... the old english version of it that is, not some abridged version... God, i had to read that old english shpiel for a lit. class, every other word had to be translated. That was entirely off topic, so to push it towards the topic, I'm not a big elbow fan, though i may give them a chance again sometime.

I actually haven't heard these guys since their first album. Which from what I recall kind of emerged at the same time all that British snooze-rock ala Coldplay/Turin Brakes etc etc was really popular. Needless to say, Asleep in the Back was aptly titled.

I might check this album out though. I've seen enough positive comments to at least give it a chance.

I did get a whiff of Coldplay upon first listening to it, but I pushed through it. I try not to let my Coldplay-reflex exert to much influence over my listening preferences these days. I can understand how some people would immediately think of Coldplay, though, and quickly dismiss the album.

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Originally posted by CleverName84:
Sorry.

There 's no need to say you are sorry my friend.Your lasts posts show a brave honest and cool person .I believe that you would not have made the same remarks if you knew.
We can call it a little misundertanding.
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I did get a whiff of Coldplay upon first listening to it, but I pushed through it...I can understand how some people would immediately think of Coldplay, though, and quickly dismiss the album.

a lot of people say this , but i think Elbow have more in common with Doves.

^I agree with the Doves reference. For whatever reason, the Doves really clicked with me in College so I've got a fondness for their 'sound'. I really enjoyed The Seldom Seen Kid, although I don't think Elbow has really expanded or progressed from Cast of Thousands. It does lag towards the late middle part of the album, but the first 4 and the last few are some of the best stretch of songs they've made. I think it's above average for contemporary brit-pop in that it's spacious, subtle, shimmering, and still retains a catchy element of melodic pop. However it's more subdued than Snow Patrol or Coldplay. One of my favorite of the year so far.... still waiting on that Doves release.

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Originally posted by CleverName84:
I always assume it's english-speakers (native english-speakers at that) who peruse this site because, well, I always imagined there would exist some kind of metacritic-type site in one's native language so that having to adapt to a language in which one isn't wholly familiar is not necessary (I guess i don't have the balls to go on a spanish-language message board, though i speak the .

Well, there are local forums (althouth the variety depends on what language do you apeak) but the nice thing about the internet is the ability to interact and exchange recomendations and opinions with people from all over the world. I can understand why it seems strange to you though, living in an English speaking environment, but you should remember that it goes beyond these forums anyway - you may not even be aware of it because you never had to but we are surrounded by English everywhere. it IS a the global language (and i'm cool with it as long as you people remember it's not the only one) and if you wanna be a part of the world, and not spend your life in a small isolated Ghetto you have to get used to it and adjust yourself because the world won't come to you. so this is why i'm here any way and my guess is there are quite a lot like me around here.

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CandyFlossGirl... I love you.

Oh.... now you made me blush!
We're cool. I agree with sk - you seem to be an ok guy. we can call it all a misunderstanding and then go and bring world peace while we're at it.

p.s.

what's with the letter "G" and American High School kids anyway?! I'm asking for real. you made me curious...

p.s.s.
I quite like Elbow (although not sure enough about the new one to make a real contribution to that debate).
definitely more Doves than Coldplay.
I hate Coldplay!

Clevername would be referencing a common practice in American slang where when using the present tense of a verb such as, running to remove the g and thus runnin'.

other exmaples
hangin'
chillin'

Oh that "G"!
got it now. thanks for the clarification.

personally I believe this is, and i'm talking mainly about the spoken English, a natural part of the development of a language. languages keep changing all the time. they always have. and as sad as it may seem, it's a progress that cannot be stoped, and I for one find it fascinating.

this kids today speak the way we would all speak in a few years. maybe even in this lifetime. just as you can hear perfectly legitimate accents throughout the world in which the final "g" is already omited. and just as no one pronounces the "k" in "know" anymore (speaking about Old English).

Oh boy, you shouldn't have let me started...

This is just a point of view though. please don't kill me.

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Originally posted by CandyFlossGirl:
you may not even be aware of it because you never had to but we are surrounded by English everywhere. it IS a the global language (and i'm cool with it as long as you people remember it's not the only one) and if you wanna be a part of the world, and not spend your life in a small isolated Ghetto you have to get used to it and adjust yourself because the world won't come to you.

Out of curiosity, what country are you from, or currently located? I think it's interesting that you say English is a global language. I've only been out of the US a few times, mostly to Spanish speaking countries where few people speak English. I did go to Rome for a few days and found that English was a mediator language for people who didn't speak each other's primary language - like a French person speaking to an Italian in English. I think English's worldwide presence has its roots more in English colonialism (especially in central/south Asia) than Americas cultural imperialism, but I don't really know.

Anyways, you have to let us in on some good non-English bands - stuff we don't have easy exposure to here.

Also... elbow.. yeah.

Really?! I always thought it was common knowledge, so I find your reaction really amazing. At first I thought you were taking the piss until I realised you were serious...

Anyway I'm not saying we speak English among ourselves or something, but we do learn it at school from a very young age and at least where I live, you cannot complete a University degree without having a pretty good English, if nothing else, because the great majority of academic papers and readings are in that language...
I also think the roots lay in the British Colonialism, but the HUGE American influence on at least the western world has a big role in keeping it going, so you can say it's a combination of both. As I said, it's cool. There has to be some language to connect people throughout the world and English is just as good as any other.

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