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Thought of some good ones (not all "classic" but almost):
Built to Spill - "Keep It Like A Secret" Death Cab for Cutie - "Transatlanticism" Apples In Stereo - "The Discovery of a World Inside the Moone" Luna - "Penthouse" Nada Surf - "Let Go"
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Some albums I haven't seen mentioned that I would argue are pretty essential:
Broken Social Scene - You Forgot it in People The Microphones - The Glow, Pt. 2 (or any other Microphones album, actually) Spoon - Girls Can Tell & Kill the Moonlight Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot The Books - The Lemon of Pink The Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat The Mountain Goats - All Hail West Texas & The Sunset Tree
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Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out, One Beat The Decemberists - Castaways and Cutouts
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One fantastic album I haven't seen listed yet is Dismemberment Plan's Emergency & I...I would recommend that in a heartbeat...
And for the record, Pavement's Wowee Zowee kicks S&E's and CRCR's ass...
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And for the record, albums to avoid:
Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat The most banal, waste of time indulgent bullcrap I have ever heard. Don't even bother.
The Arcade Fire - Funeral Grandiose, pompous, and overblown. Bad, corny lyrics with relatively unsophisticated melodies. Most of the songs sound dated already...only bother with the first song...
Replacements - Tim Don't let anyone fool you. Westerburg can't friggin sing. Three good songs does not an album make.
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"Forum Moderator" Super Bad-Ass Jedi
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Sancho, first Elvis and now Paul? You are setting yourself up for some lashings which will follow soon enough.
"Naked Woman, Naked Man Where did you get that nice sun tan?"
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| Posts: 12945 | Location: Behind the Orange Curtain | Registered: 14 May 2004 |    |
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some yet to be named: bubble & scrape-Sebadoh boces- Mercury Rev they spent their wild youthful days in the glittering world of the salons- The Swirlies hissing prigs in static cotour- Braniac michigan- Sufjan Stevens(illinois is great btw) either/or- Elliott Smith i see a darkness- Will Oldham(Bonnie Prince Billy) 0+2=1- No Means No locust abortion technician- Butthole Surfers whenever your ready- Flop crappin' you negative- The Grifters the dirt of luck- Helium le tigre- Le Tigre drive like jehu- Drive Like Jehu rid of me- PJ Harvey featuring birds- Quasi let's get ready to crumble- The Russian Futurists tons more, but.....
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| Posts: 8 | Location: philadelphia | Registered: 21 May 2005 |    |
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You're probably right mark f, but unpopular opinions are opinions nonetheless...
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quote: Originally posted by SanchoPanza!!!: And for the record, albums to avoid:
Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat The most banal, waste of time indulgent bullcrap I have ever heard. Don't even bother.
The Arcade Fire - Funeral Grandiose, pompous, and overblown. Bad, corny lyrics with relatively unsophisticated melodies. Most of the songs sound dated already...only bother with the first song...
Replacements - Tim Don't let anyone fool you. Westerburg can't friggin sing. Three good songs does not an album make.
Agree, agree, and WHAT!!!!???!!!! Saying that Westerberg can't sing while plugging a PAVEMENT record is funny. I will say, though, that the Replacements mean much more to those who saw them live than those who didn't.
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| Posts: 3875 | Location: ATL, GA | Registered: 25 May 2004 |    |
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There's always a strong split between the Tim/Let It Be/Pleased To Meet Me fans. Each record carries a great degree of sentimental import to me...the 'Mats were the first alternative/indie band that I really got into, they were from my hometown of Mpls, and I hold all three of those records in extremely high regard. I think Let It Be, which gets the most critical lauding, has more duds on it than the other two, but also has a few out and out classics. You have to sit thru "Gary's Got a Boner" and a half-assed cover of "Black Diamond" but you also get "Androgynous" and "Answering Machine." Tim and Pleased To Meet Me are each, easily, two of my favorite albums. Ever. I look forward, with bated breath, to the reissues of all the 'Mats records, reportedly due this fall, and supposedly packed with demos and outtakes.
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| Posts: 3875 | Location: ATL, GA | Registered: 25 May 2004 |    |
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I've forced myself to sit through Tim about ten times and it just doesn't do it for me. The last half of the album is okay, but Jesus H. Christ, this is what people have been going nuts over for so long??? The band can't carry a tune! Not to mention their sound has been ripped off tremendously over the years, but, as many will say, the great ones will never be diluted by their imitators, and to these ears, The Replacements just don't sound special anymore....
As for Pavement, Malkmus has a much better voice, in my own opinion. He seems to have a more distinct delivery and a slightly wider range. I just get no personality from Westerburg at all, with all his gravelly antics.
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Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime Meat Puppets - Up on the Sun Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted Pixies - Doolittle The Replacements - Let It Be Built to Spill - There's Nothing Wrong With Love Velvet Undergound & Nico - s/t ("Banana Album") Television - Marquee Moon Gang of Four - Entertainment! Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane, Over the Sea
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Archers of Loaf - Icky Mettle Afghan Whigs - Congregation Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
I've probably missed too much, this is just off the top of my head.
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quote: Originally posted by philosopherEric: While there are a handful of Pavement songs that i really enjoy alot, I can't see why they garnered so much praise. In their "Overrated" issue for the 90's, a Chunklet writer commented that Pavement "ruined" indie rock in the 90's. I wouldn't go that far, but I'll take any Replacements influenced band over a Pavement wannabe any day.
Whoops... Thats all I can say here... Ruined indie rock? They were the indie rock in the 90's...
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quote: Originally posted by philosopherEric: Saying that Westerberg can't sing while plugging a PAVEMENT record is funny. I will say, though, that the Replacements mean much more to those who saw them live than those who didn't.
The replacements better than pavement?!? Thats crazy enough, but saying Tim has a better voice than SM? Thats completely laughable.
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Part of my fascination with Pavement's music stems from the question I ask myself when I listen to something like Wowee Zowee: how in the hell did they think of this? The guitar interplay, the melodies, everything. It just totally blows my mind the way they bring so many elements together and make it work. I'll lay off The Replacements, though. I am probably being unfair as I am running off the steam generated by a knee-jerk reaction to Tim that has perpetuated itself over repeated listens. Perhaps I'll go back to it in a new mindset. Or check out their other albums. Or maybe I don't like them. I don't know. quote: Much like Neutral Milk Hotel, my memory of two awful Pavement live shows makes me care less about them. In one of the shows, I honestly thought that members of the band were playing different songs, it was so chaotic and unrehearsed. And if that was the point, then I just don't get it.
Ahh, you're not supposed to get it. You're supposed to stand there in your tattered Rites of Spring t-shirt and twirl your budding goatee, nodding your head along with all the other strung-out indie-heads...I just kid.
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To place value judgments on either the Replacements' or Pavement's music seems too harsh to me. I'm a fan of both. I don't understand loving one and dissing the other, but to each his own. Malkmus IS Pavement. He's not one of the Pavement guys. He wrote the songs, sang the songs, played lead guitar, etc. To say that Malkmus is "one of the guys from Pavement" is like saying "Westerberg is one of the guys from the Replacements." I love both bands, so to me, that's a GOOD thing! Malkmus' new album rocks. They are both damn fine singers!!!
"Naked Woman, Naked Man Where did you get that nice sun tan?"
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| Posts: 12945 | Location: Behind the Orange Curtain | Registered: 14 May 2004 |    |
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radiohead- OK Computer + Kid A sonic youth- daydream nation wilco- yankee hotel foxtrot bright eyes- fevers and mirrors neutral milk hotel- in the aeroplane over the sea pavement- slanted and enchanted the pixies- pretty much everything broken social scene- you forgot it in people the shins- oh, inverted world godspeed you black emperor- life yr skinny fists beck- odelay my bloody valentine- loveless the white stripes- elephant or white blood cells (ok, a bit new, but will be classic) cursive- the ugly organ modest mouse- lonesome crowded west blur- 13 built to spill- there is nothing wrong with love ENON- high society and although this isn't really "indie rock", EVERY indie rock kid loves this album: The Velvet Underground + Nico, s/t 'andy warhol' record. Because it's awesome and minimalistic and dischordant and probably inspired loads of modern indie rock bands.
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| Posts: 35 | Location: Madison, WI | Registered: 20 June 2005 |    |
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