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Apprentice Guru |
Definitely the "been there, done that, only much better" quality to them. I think they have nothing original to add to the musical landscape, and they were wrongly hyped. I'll admit, all the hype around them was a slight effect on me considering they were touted as the greatest band on the face of the planet when, in fact, they are nowhere near it. |
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"Forum Moderator" Jedi |
They were pretty hyped, dude. Didn't the NME declare their album the best UK album of the century or something close to that? I know they made a list just after that album came out and the Arctic Monkeys were at or near the top.
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Know-It-All |
Also, Whatever People Say... was the best selling album in the UK ever, or something like that. I enjoy the Arctic Monkeys sorta kinda occasionally, but yeah I'm at a loss to explain how that happenned.
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Know-It-All |
Nothing original to add? How many bands do have something original to add these days? Even great bands/artists I love - Arcade Fire, PJ Harvey, Sonic Youth, Radiohead, The National - aren't doing anything "original" per say. They just make great music. Besides that, the Arctic Monkeys have only made two albums (with the second being much better than the first) so I doubt they've reached their potential. That probably sounds much harsher than it needs to, especially because the Arctic Monkeys aren't one of my favorite bands, so it's not like I need to defend them to the death. The whole "unoriginal" line just pushed me to it. "The only thing hotter than this hot tub is you two ladies." |
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Guru |
NME declares a new band of the century every six weeks or so. |
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"Forum Moderator" Super Bad-Ass Jedi |
With the resources that are available to us now (the media especially) it's hard to gauge how much/how little hype a certain band is receiving. The British press are notorious for the exposure and attention they give their local artists and I think that Arctic Monkeys may have suffered some backlash because of it. I certainly tried to avoid their first album for the longest time before finally giving in. Personally, they aren't overrated in the least, to me. I think they are an energetic, musical and catchy band that possesses much more depth than they let on. If you listen carefully to their music, the hooks and melodies that they create are downright sublime. This of course doesn't even mention their genuine lyrics and Alex Turner's awesome voice. They're one of those bands that will continue to grow and will continue to make tremendous music. Both of their albums are essential and I regularly listen to them. So in other words, no, I don't think they're overrated. I'll shut up now. ----- If you don't love me, I'm sorry. |
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Jedi |
They made up for they hype of their first album by releasing Favourite Worst Nightmare.
And regarding their debut being the best selling album in the UK, I only wish I could say the same here. It's a great, simple, hook-filled rock album which should've made them huge with the mainstream... like The Strokes. |
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Know-It-All |
The Strokes are approximately eighteen times as good as the Arctic Monkeys, and their name is only half as stupid.
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Know-It-All |
Fuck it, I'm posting this again here before someone asks me to explain myself about AM.
I had and have no extra-musical reason whatever to dislike the Arctic Monkeys (aside from their name, and I like lots of bands with stupid names). I did download their second album. The first track almost seemed to be about to radically redeem the band, but then at 27 seconds in the song started. A more nauseatingly predictable little London dance rock riff I hadn't before heard from anyone but uh the Arctic Monkeys. On their previous album. It's the kind of chord progression that could be a shitty James Bond theme with a little retooling. I didn't listen to the rest of the record, not at all. SO, all the tracks after that one on Favourite Worst Nightmare (which is dumb enough to be an Ashlee Simpson album title) I can't officially account for. The omnipresent references to Turner's "lyrical prowess" are the other thing that really bewilders me. The quasi-cockney right-there-in-your-face accent is the only thing that's mildly interesting about anything this young man has to say, and that aspect spends about eight seconds morphing from fascinating to annoying. "I can't take my eyes off the t-shirt and ties combination" WHOA he's just eviscerated the fashion-and-hype driven industry! And he's so young! It's not like every fucking band that was ever obviously a part of these trends attempts clumsy commentary on the same come their second album. Elsewhere it's understandably callow but not understandably trite relationship and friendship politics, heavy with UKisms like "wind-up" and thoroughly uninteresting narratives about how WELL these tossers know the whole London-club-SCENE-thing. WOW! They actually recognize that there is disappointment and messiness in the party scene? WOW! Turner has a (contrived) jadedness and even puts meaningless references to American towns like San Francisco in his songs! It's like he's older than he is And the music - a'right Alex...I've got this Specials thing I've worked out, yeah? It's a bit obvious, but we've got a move a bit away from the Parklife and low-rent Clash thing, and this bit would be blinding on that first song. (that was whichever jagoff pinches the riffs talking to Alex. So maybe it's Alex himself, talking to himself in a mirror. Seems like something he'd do.) Also WOW! They have a DRUMMER who plays well! (can you name a band who doesn't?) Anyway, all this tripe was sufficient to hypnotize the press...and that not even completely. Read some of the reviews that were written by the kind of people who DON'T do things like call the band "scrappy" when they mean to say that the MUSIC THEY MAKE IS NOT VERY GOOD: "This is the new big British band? This is barely inspired enough to make it off campus." It has that special ring of truth, because the Monkeys sound so much like a band you do see perform in the cafeteria at a technical college, and they're so unimpressive you feel bad for them and their obviously dead-end career. They're a thoroughly uninteresting musically third-string britpop/dance-rock band that has gotten by on their "story," their youth, and the fashionability of their pretend-unfashionableness. That's all. I fear I've gotten carried away one more time. I spent at least a few hours last night trying to explain to a handful of burnouts why Tool sucks. Maybe you can understand my lingering frustration. |
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Jedi |
570.
That's how many words in your last post I'm not going to read. You seriously need to find a better use of your time than writing things nobody cares to read or possibly stop bitching about everything you hate in a conceited attempt to 'save' people. You don't like 'so and so?' Fine, don't worry about it. How about writing about things that you do like? You really come off as a pretentious douche when the majority of your posts are simply bashing things you don't like. In the words of Raoul Duke "Eat some reds and try to calm down. Smoke some grass, shoot some fucking smack! Shit man, do whatever you gotta do." ---------------------------------- Employee of the month awards are the opiate of the masses. For the potheads Gang Starr |
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Know-It-All |
Oh my god.
Stop. Following me around. Michael? Michael. Look at me. You have to stop. |
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Jedi |
I'm just waiting to find you in a deserted thread suitable for the raping to commence. ---------------------------------- Employee of the month awards are the opiate of the masses. For the potheads Gang Starr |
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Know-It-All |
What the fuck is wrong with your brain?
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Jedi |
I can and I can't. Some things just can't be explained away. And while I do think that the task you've picked out for yourself is definitely frustrating, I've got to ask you WHY DO YOU BOTHER? It's just a waste of your time, but you seem hell-bent on wasting it. I think you'd have a hard time explaining why any album sucks if you don't get through the first fucking song. Likewise, you can't give any meaningful criticism of lyrics if you don't make it past the first song. You're just venting sarcastic stuff which may sound witty to you, but really it's more tiresome than anything. |
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Jedi |
Have you ever been sodomized with a microwave? ---------------------------------- Employee of the month awards are the opiate of the masses. For the potheads Gang Starr |
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Know-It-All |
A few hours?!? Dude, time for a new hobby. Seriously though, you can do this kind of ranting for ANY band. You essentially have the same argument as CleverName84 who said they have "nothing original to add to the musical landscape." Which, if you guys seriously believe that (and disbelieve that other more critically-acclaimed/well-loved artists aren't nearly as "original" as some might claim), whatever. But his argument was compact, and yours is long, tired, and drawn out. And again, when did I, or anyone else say, that the Arctic Monkeys were the be all, end all of rock? No one, except for the British press (and one goofy guy a few pages back). Please, let's stop the anger: we wouldn't want to turn this into "Indie Rock Guitarists" now, would we?  "The only thing hotter than this hot tub is you two ladies." |
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Apprentice Guru |
I don't understand the parenthetical aside statement... I don't need originality to like something if that's waht you were getting at, but most great bands offer something quite original. Take Band of Horses for example, they could be deemed incredibly derivative, but their take on almost rootsy/clean guitar-based indie rock has a charm and depth beyond most others... Hence, they are original. I think they're a touch overrated, but i genuinely love their music, so it doesn't really matter to me. Back to the Arctic Monkeys: I think they are simply over-rated/over-hyped. Nothing more, nothing less... In fact, I'm not sure i hate them so much as just feel indifferent about them which, in turn, makes me feel like they are overrated because of some of the absolutely absurd plaudits they receive. Anyway, The Notwist i felt were extremely overrated for a long time, but in finally following up Neon Golden, i find myself much more drawn to their music. Mogwai is overrated i think. They have one downright classic, but nothing even comes close after that... Except maybe My Father My King and Rock Action. Take that back, Mogwai is great, Explosions in the Sky is overrated. This is a little late to the game because they broke up forever ago, but i always thought Murder City Devils were extremely overrated, and i like MCD quite a bit, but i just couldn't understand the denim-jacket greased hair crowds absolute adoration for them. |
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Know-It-All |
True enough. I wouldn't call Arctic Monkeys great, but I wouldn't write them off entirely either. "The only thing hotter than this hot tub is you two ladies." |
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