I know, the album isn't really new... but it's recent american release has given me the motivation to listen carefully to what it is.

I personnally think that it's over-evaluated.
Some critics say that it's better than Interpol
(actually they exactly sound like them), but I don't think so. I would say that Editors are total rip-offs, despite the fact that it's good to listen to it. They really don't have the overall depth of Interpol, or their complex sense of building a melody. We can get rid of Editors pretty fast...

I like the editors and listen to them when I go to the gym or anything like that. However Editors got nothing on Interpol so yes I agree with you Mr. Matcool. I give Editors about a 6 in ahalf and Interpol a 10 out of 10. As you can tell in my book Editors are not even a close match.

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Originally posted by Matcool:
I would say that Editors are total rip-offs, despite the fact that it's good to listen to it. They really don't have the overall depth of Interpol, or their complex sense of building a melody. We can get rid of Editors pretty fast...

If we can get rid of bands that are 'total rip-offs', then I'm pretty sure that Interpol gets tossed, as well, for wanting to be Joy Division in fashionable duds. (And I don't buy, for a minute, that they had never heard Joy Division before their first record broke big)

I'm not denying that Editors are somewhat derivative (they are) but they bring flavors to the party that Interpol does not: U2 guitar licks, Echo and the Bunnymen ambience, Psychedlic Furs vox.

I find it pretty amusing that folks are deriding bands as being Interpol clones when INterpol (who I actually like) is not particularly original themselves. I guess some people just missed out on the first wave of post-punk...

"I find it pretty amusing that folks are deriding bands as being Interpol clones when INterpol (who I actually like) is not particularly original themselves. I guess some people just missed out on the first wave of post-punk..."

I can assure you, my lad, that I absolutely know the fact that Interpol are full of Joy Division... and I don't think they are the kings of the hill... but they were around the first band to be popular by actualizing this old sound to the present time, and it worked very well. The follow up was a instantaneous wave of Killers, Bravery, Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, and so on(and they have talent, too!). All those bands(including Interpol)are fashionable duds!
As you can notice too, I said that Editors are good listening...

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I can assure you, my lad, that I absolutely know the fact that Interpol are full of Joy Division... and I don't think they are the kings of the hill... but they were around the first band to be popular by actualizing this old sound to the present time, and it worked very well. The follow up was a instantaneous wave of Killers, Bravery, Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, and so on(and they have talent, too!). All those bands(including Interpol)are fashionable duds!

Do you mean "fashionable dudes", or are they all clad in "fashionable duds", or are they all just duds?

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Originally posted by Matcool:
I can assure you, my lad, that I absolutely know the fact that Interpol are full of Joy Division... and I don't think they are the kings of the hill... but they were around the first band to be popular by actualizing this old sound to the present time, and it worked very well. The follow up was a instantaneous wave of Killers, Bravery, Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, and so on(and they have talent, too!). All those bands(including Interpol)are fashionable duds!
As you can notice too, I said that Editors are good listening...

If you were complimenting them, it was backhanded, at best. You say that we can "get rid of them fairly quickly" and that they are "total rip-offs."

If you point was that both Editors and Interpol are ripping off post-punk, but you like Interpol better, that's fine. But that wasn't the context of the first post and that's why I called you on it.

I don't see any strong connection between Interpol and the Killers/Bravery/Franz Ferdinand/Bloc Party list you threw up there. Other than a broadly 80's set of influences (including postpunk, new wave, and first wave punk), they really don't have much in common with Interpol or each other.

I must say I really like the bassline in "All Sparks" and the Sinatra-style singing in the verses of "Camera".

-no need for "strong connection", it's just general music talk...

Even if I find this sorta shocking, I guess I'm well-adjusted enough that it's OK, for now.

Musiclifeliberty, I'm gonna say it since nobody else will:

Dude. Seriously. I'm cutting you some slack because you're a semi-regular, but that is one of the most obnoxious posts ever. It's not just that it reads like some street-team promo for Editors (who I like, by the by) but it's a BAD street-team promo with too much information, no interesting content, and a whole lot of Spam-like aftertaste. I appreciate that you're now their biggest fan, but use a little common sense. Give us a link or two, or a quote or two, and let the discussion go. Don't post every freakin' mention of the band that's on the Web and expect people to take you seriously.

Yeah, that was definitely insane. I never thought I'd see even a semi-regular post something like that.

Guys, I'm sorry about all this confusion...
Who am I suppose to be if not just a music fan as you all are? What does mean Spam-like aftertaste? I've never read any stuff about Editors but the metascore they got...
The post was about the fact that to me, Editors are rip-offs. I like this band and want to talk about it... I want to share remarks, highs and lows, critics with anyone whose interested... What else? I'm not forcing anybody to reply here and give is opinion on how the post is supposed to be like (this or that, I don't like this, etc)... So, if you feel the need to share your opinion about Editors, go on! If not, stop driving this post out of its way!

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Originally posted by Matcool:
Guys, I'm sorry about all this confusion...
Who am I suppose to be if not just a music fan as you all are? What does mean Spam-like aftertaste? I've never read any stuff about Editors but the metascore they got...
The post was about the fact that to me, Editors are rip-offs. I like this band and want to talk about it... I want to share remarks, highs and lows, critics with anyone whose interested... What else? I'm not forcing anybody to reply here and give is opinion on how the post is supposed to be like (this or that, I don't like this, etc)... So, if you feel the need to share your opinion about Editors, go on! If not, stop driving this post out of its way!

You misunderstand the comments that followed your post, Matcool. Another post was there, but has since been deleted, by its author, and it was a VERY lengthy list of links and quotes that read like a press release. The spam comments weren't directed at your post, but at the (now-deleted) other one.

My take on Editors, as I've said before, is that they're good at what they do. I think they mix in more tasty influences than a lot of the other bands in the new wave of post-punk.

Believe it or not, I'm going to Editors concert in Montreal next week... it's only 15$(very cheap!). They'll probaly play the whole album.

For me, the Editors album was worth a few listens, and then I was over it. Which is strange because I do think it's a solid, consistent, well-thought-out album. I'm not sure why, but they just don't have the staying power of Interpol.

Man, I totally agree.

I have not been a member of these forums long - but long enough to realise that half the forums spend too much time slagging off bands for sounding like another band that posters prefer.

I am not going to compare Editors to anyone - I am only going to say I love this album - probally in my top 5 from 2005 - the music is so clear and crisp - it cleans all the wax from my ears!

I am happy oyu like Interpol - personally I find I can like apples and oranges without finding the need to compare one to the other !

i like that band.some very good/great singles (munich, blood , all sparks, bullets) some great album tracks (camera , fall , lights) , very good live performances n new tunes even better than the first ones.yeah they sound like interpol like so many other bands n that s not a bad thing as long as they releasin good music.

Happytab hit the nail on the head. People that compare bands such as joy division, echo&tbunnymen, interpol and the editors etc are reviewer ass licking retards.. stop and actually listen to the music. IF you get these bands mixed up in anyway then you should admit defeat and stop listening to music. They all have their own sound, they're just filed under the same genre. If you knew half as much about this genre as you think then you'd be mentioning the chameleons as a more realistic comparison and not bloody joy division.

Man, we all like Editors. What's wrong? That's the important. This thread is dedicated to them, they're important enough in our hearts! I'm gonna cry...

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Originally posted by Rubberchicken:
Happytab hit the nail on the head. People that compare bands such as joy division, echo&tbunnymen, interpol and the editors etc are reviewer ass licking retards.. stop and actually listen to the music. IF you get these bands mixed up in anyway then you should admit defeat and stop listening to music. They all have their own sound, they're just filed under the same genre. If you knew half as much about this genre as you think then you'd be mentioning the chameleons as a more realistic comparison and not bloody joy division.

So, it's not possible that bands borrow sounds or elements from other bands? I don't see how saying "Editors sound a little like..." is insulting. I know my post-punk pretty well, and I don't think the fact that they sound like some of the bands from the post-punk/new wave eras is a bad thing.

And, point of fact, you deride the 'reviewer ass licking retards' for comparing Editors to other bands but then YOU compare them to the Chameleons. I think the pot is calling the kettle black, here. Contradict yourself much?

And, just to clarify, I like the band and I still listen the record. And while I may be a 'reviewer ass licking retard' for hearing flashes of Echo and the Bunnymen in the (totally original, completely uninfluenced) music of Editors, those flahses are one of the things I like about the band.

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