I only listen to Indie Rock. Indie Pop is for poseurs.But I'm thinking of expanding my horizons to indieslowcoresynthpopglitchhopamericanatronica.

F*ck that sh*t! That's too narrow. I listen to and appreciate everything, but I have to experience something new for it to hold the most meaning for me. I'm going to get married and divorced every other day for the rest of my "life". C'est la vie.

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Originally posted by ericg75:
I only listen to Indie Rock. Indie Pop is for poseurs.But I'm thinking of expanding my horizons to indieslowcoresynthpopglitchhopamericanatronica.

My roommate is into indieslowcoresynthpopglitchhopamericanatronica. I can't stand that shit. I'm more into alt/post country-new-wave-indie-pop-folk-college-rocktronica.

Haha thank God for people like Rubber Chicken, who make all of our lives a little more absurd than they already are. God speed, little buddy, in your quest to find classifications that just don't exist!

Hey Skipper, did you just call him "Little Buddy" (Gilligan)?

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Originally posted by Rubberchicken:
Know thy music genres people.
For bands mentioned in this thread;

alt rock:
Wilco, Secret Machines, TV on the Radio, pavement, Ambulance LTD, Dinosaur Jr, Ted Leo/Pharm.

Sonic Youth - alt/post punk

Metric - new wave/indie rock

Indie rock:
The Walkmen, Modest Mouse, Pedro the Lion, New Pornographers, Yo La Tengo, Autolux, Grandaddy, Guided By Voices, Sebadoh, The Fiery Furnaces

Pixies - college rock
Buffalo Tom - college rock

indie pop:
Death Cab, Rilo Kiley, The Shins
The Decemberists, Stars, The Lemonheads

Sufjan Stevens - folk/indie-pop
Iron & Wine - indie folk
Postal Service - electro pop
GooGoo Dolls - pop
Lambchop - alt-country
Magnetic Fields - Synth-pop/rock

Sigur Ros - post rock
Low - slowcore

Fugazi - post-punk
Wire - post-punk

post-punk revival:
white stripes, The Stills, The Killers, Futureheads
Interpol, The Strokes, Franz Ferdinand

"Oh! A bullshit artist? Did you bullshit last week? Did you try to bullshit last week?"

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Originally posted by mark f:
Hey Skipper, did you just call him "Little Buddy" (Gilligan)?

I sure did! The Professors not gonna happy about me calling Rubber Chicken that though. He hates pretentious assholes.

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Originally posted by Rubberchicken:
My top ten:
bluebottle kiss
easyworld
aloha
neutral milk hotel
idaho
puressence
the wrens
seafood
built to spill
electric soft parade

ah - nice to see Seafood here - they are great!

Don't worry kids if you're too stupid to remember ALL the genres you can just file them all under indie, at least this way you can spend more time focusing on making your hair look spot on and making sure your belt matches your pants etc.

Personally I believe that if a thread asks to list your favourite "indie rock" bands then thats what should be done. If it had been just indie then sure whatever.

I grew up with subgenres and I believe they actually do help, to just say a band is indie is not narrow enough. They could sound like anything or these days anyone.
Back in the day when you couldn't just download them and had to take a chance with your money you wanted to know exactly what style they were.
To say that franz are the same genre as electric soft parade is just insane. It really is a shame that kids these days are so stoooooooopid that they can't remember a few subgenres, its not hard.
You're basically playing into the major record labels hands, who want to bastardise the word indie.

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Originally posted by Rubberchicken:
You're basically playing into the major record labels hands, who want to bastardise the word indie.

Nah. I actually think that all of your sub-genres compromise the music. How is it helpful to put such a specific label on something? I buy all of my music but it's not like I don't have an idea of what it sounds like beforehand. I don't say "I'm a fan of epic post-rock and therefore I will like this record."
Calling people who don't have your tendency to over-analyze "stoooopid" is just low. If it helps you to call Sonic Youth "alt/post punk" and Low "slowcore" then ok. Just don't push your categories on all of us and act like we're ignorant for having a more open-ended definition of "indie rock."

I like genre names because they give me a good indication of what to expect. They're useful.

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Originally posted by Rubberchicken:
Don't worry kids if you're too stupid to remember ALL the genres you can just file them all under indie, at least this way you can spend more time focusing on making your hair look spot on and making sure your belt matches your pants etc.

Personally I believe that if a thread asks to list your favourite "indie rock" bands then thats what should be done. If it had been just indie then sure whatever.

I grew up with subgenres and I believe they actually do help, to just say a band is indie is not narrow enough. They could sound like anything or these days anyone.
Back in the day when you couldn't just download them and had to take a chance with your money you wanted to know exactly what style they were.
To say that franz are the same genre as electric soft parade is just insane. It really is a shame that kids these days are so stoooooooopid that they can't remember a few subgenres, its not hard.
You're basically playing into the major record labels hands, who want to bastardise the word indie.

This is just bullshit because most bands should not be able to fit into only one subgenre. I disagreed with almost every one of the subgenres that you slapped on a band. You seemed completely off. And it's also ridiculous that you said "kids today" since half the people making jokes about you are like 50 years old.

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Originally posted by b0arder753:
This is just bullshit because most bands should not be able to fit into only one subgenre. I disagreed with almost every one of the subgenres that you slapped on a band. You seemed completely off. And it's also ridiculous that you said "kids today" since half the people making jokes about you are like 50 years old.

I'm only 31, not 50, but you're 100% correct otherwise b0arder. The best bands are usually tough to categorize. Wilco, for instance, takes elements from alt-country, power-pop, and indie rock to create a style that's really their own.

THETREESGETWHEELEDAWAY>>> to me indie rock is filed under indie which is filed under alternative which is on the opposite side of the genre tree to popular music (pop), indie rock IS a sub genre that like I said is under indie. If this thread was about just indie bands then yeah maybe.
But saying that if you wanted to actually over-analyse then half of the bands mentioned in this thread should be filed further down the tree under alternative. As they are in no way indie in all it's meanings, sound/ethos/business.

Yeah you do have a point (b0arder753) as far as these bands go they do change their style mostly with each album but its usually each album that gets categorised especially on metacritic. I think it would be lazy for a reviewer to class an album as indie rock when it is closer to another particular sub genre, it just helps people out so they know what they are in for.
Too often do I see a band classed as indie rock when to me they sound more like indie electro or post rock.. its deceptive (or lazy) advertising. Which is basically my point.

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Originally posted by Rubberchicken:
Too often do I see a band classed as indie rock when to me they sound more like indie electro or post rock.. its deceptive (or lazy) advertising. Which is basically my point.

I don't object to you filing things the way you want to, just don't force it on us. As far as I'm concerned all of the bands mentioned here are indie rock, with the exception of The Goo Goo Dolls and The Killers, and I have no problem figuring out whether I like something or not on my own. I don't need the labels and I don't need someone telling me that I do.

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Originally posted by ericg75:
Wilco

Dang, what a fanboy...

thetreesgetwheeled..>> My intention was not to force my point of view on to others, Im sorry if my passionate beliefs have deluded you.
Ok can I just clarify that a little more, can you please just back up your point by saying/quoting again that these bands are "indie rock":

Sigur Ros, Low, Fugazi, Wire, White Stripes, The Stills, The Killers, Futureheads, Interpol, The Strokes, Franz Ferdinand.

Just something for me to laugh at so I don't need to post here anymore.

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Originally posted by Rubberchicken:
please just back up your point by saying/quoting again that these bands are "indie rock":

Sigur Ros, Low, Fugazi, Wire, White Stripes, The Stills, The Killers, Futureheads, Interpol, The Strokes, Franz Ferdinand.

Just something for me to laugh at so I don't need to post here anymore.

The Killers aren't indie rock and I said so. Your list seems to be mostly comprised of very successful acts and I understand why someone would decide that they were "alternative" rather than allowing them to remain in a genre that assumes some sort of obscurity. Still, I do consider the bands that you listed to be indie rock in aesthetic (the ones I'm familiar with at least).
Agree to disagree.

My list is comprised of bands that have been mentioned by users on this forum in this thread, which is what made me make the list in the first place.
Remembering Indie rock is not about being mainstream so to class a mainsteam band as indie goes against the original ethos of what indie is about in all forms of the word.
The aesthetics of some of these bands just prove that they're more concerned with fitting into a group than actually being 'independent'. Along with their lack of ability to write original material also proves that they should be grouped into alternative mainstream and other genres.

Again I'll stress the point that record companies are cashing in on this indie trend and bands such as 'the boy least likely to..' who were put together by the same people that produced the spice girls just proves this. The word indie is being bastrdised and now I've got to put up with people coming along telling me what "indie" is/has become.

Yes I think we should agree to disagree. *shakes hand*.

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