Well, I find that about half the time I listen to it, I enjoy it a lot, and half the time I listen to it, it doesn't jive with me at all.

its probably there best album except for possibly dookie but seriously no one listens to that ever do they?

I still listen to Dookie occasionally. And, it is definetely better than American Idiot.

I still find American Idiot quite engaging. It runs neck and neck with Dookie for my fave Green Day, although I don't pull Dookie out to listen to very often.

the new green day cd sucked. at least thats what i thought. i do apreciate some of the lyrics, but other than that these guys are just pop-punk sell outs wearing eyeliner

Green Day have been a popular band since Dookie. So I'm curious at what point in their career you think they sold out. Or if you can name a punk band which, in your opinion, is popular and did *not* sell out.

Heck, Green Day changed their song to something less commercial for Warning. And by all rights, American Idiot should have been less commercial, and probably wouldn't have been so successful if it weren't for the liberal anti-authoritarian lyrics. If Green Day were total sellouts, their last two albums would have been two more Nimrods. Sure they want to make lots of money, but they seem actually willing to take musical risks.

The eyeliner thing is a little silly though.

well it isn't the best rock album ever, but it's quite good. However it isn't as good as linkin park, evanescence, limp bizkit, or korn.

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Originally posted by The Killa:
well it isn't the best rock album ever, but it's quite good. However it isn't as good as linkin park, evanescence, limp bizkit, or korn.

You are joking....right?

Yay for bands you listen to when you're trying to conform to counterculture!

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You are joking....right?

You didn't always listen to "good music," did you?

The merger with CNET is going to introduce Metacritic to a new subset of music lovers, most of whom will not, I assure you, have even ventured to #41 on the pop charts. The fact they're here might indicate a willingness to learn and discover new music...or it might signal the apocalypse.

But unless you want the board overrun with little squabbles and cheap shots, I suggest you engender intelligent conversation — at least suggest something better — or ignore the newcomers.

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Originally posted by m.leland:

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You are joking....right?

You didn't always listen to "good music," did you?

The merger with CNET is going to introduce Metacritic to a new subset of music lovers, most of whom will not, I assure you, have even ventured to #41 on the pop charts. The fact they're here might indicate a willingness to learn and discover new music...or it might signal the apocalypse.

But unless you want the board overrun with little squabbles and cheap shots, I suggest you engender intelligent conversation — at least suggest something better — or ignore the newcomers.

It wasn't a cheap shot, I was asking a question. Sorry, but when I read the comment, it comes off as a joke. My past comments speak for themselves and I don't need the lecture....

...plus, I did not read his/her posts until now, newcomer or not.

Killa, I did not refer to your suggestions as negative as I once owned a Linkin Park CD, but considered it a joke when referencing the mentioned bands with Green Day...if interested in things past #41, as leland mentions, I'm sure many of us here can suggest similiar tastes and you may read up and consider tons of new sounds, if that is what you are here for.

Well, I used to like two of the four he mentioned, but it was only because I hadn't heard the music the bands were copying. Then when I started to listen to classic rock, and later, indie, I started to feel manipulated to have liked Korn and Linkin Park in the past.

And now I see Linkin Park as the metal equivalent of a boy band.

But yes, we should discuss the bands we like rather than just shooting down the tastes of people who have more mainstream music.

The problem with bands such as Linkin Park or their predecessors Korn Limp Bizkit etc is that they basically produce music that has the same themes over and over again: anger at your parents, anger at your girlfriend, anger against society etc. all of which have one word in common I think you can all see. It's tired and cliched and if it ever was exciting it is certainly by now very boring

I've heard it, and I must say that it's great. Since I got the American Idiot CD, I went out and bought a few other ones because I think that Green Day and their music are really great.

although they arent one of my favourite bands, they have some really good songs on their new album!!

Just reviving this thread because I'm curious what people think about this album now that it's been out long enough to be disassociated with a lot of the politics that surrounded its release.

I still think American Idiot is a great album, but it has lost some of its affectiveness. It probably wouldn't have if the not for overplayed singles and Green Day over-saturating themselves. I still consider it one of the best albums of 2004, though. Big step forward for the band, although I can't imagine how they can follow it up.

I've never understood the notion that American Idiot is somehow a "sellout" album. Since when does writing a concept album make you a sellout? It's by far their most challenging record (although not that challenging - we are talking about Green Day after all.) Were Pink Floyd sellouts for writing The Wall? It did sell 30 million copies, after all.

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Originally posted by less_success:
I've never understood the notion that American Idiot is somehow a "sellout" album. Since when does writing a concept album make you a sellout? It's by far their most challenging record (although not that challenging - we are talking about Green Day after all.) Were Pink Floyd sellouts for writing The Wall? It did sell 30 million copies, after all.

I think the sellout tag probably comes from the fact that the Green Day of American Idiot seems pretty far removed from the Green Day of Dookie, where they not only looked like punks, they sounded like it too.

That being said, it's not a bad album. There's a couple of singles from the album I found pretty enjoyable, and there's far worse bands on modern rock radio.

If you like this album you should check out the Thermals' The Body, The Blood, The Machine, released last month, if you haven't already. It's another punk-tinged political concept album, only done much better IMHO. It sounds the way I wished American Idiot would've sounded.