I've never listened to a Weezer album, which is probably odd considering my slight obsession over music. The individual songs I've heard never interested me enough to check out their catalog.

That kinda sucks that Weezer's gone. But the band that they were becoming wasn't like the good old days of weezer. El Scorcho, Why Bother, Island In The Sun, Undone, Jamie, and No One Else were great songs, way better than the Beverly Hills crap. So many people are like, "Weezer sucks." Than I ask, "Have you heard any other song besides Beverly Hills!?!" So many people base Weezer on that song and it's annoying as hell. Rivers is coming out with a solo album right? That's what I heard from a friend. It'll probably suck. I heard that Rivers is an "asshole" to work with. He's bossy and subborn. (And a nerd!)

Um, it's all over the place that 2008's gonna have a Weezer album.

FIRST SINGLE:

Pork and Beans

As an enormous Weezer fan, I gotta say that this gives me hope for the new album. The lyrics are a little silly (hey, it's Weez), but the verses have me bobbing my head before the power chords kick in on the chorus in an ode to Blue. I've listened 3 times, and I really like the song. Of course, I'll buy the album just like I have every Weezer album.

=w=

Hmmm, certainly better then "Beverly Hills" for sure. It's got a lot more of the older Weezer sound, but the lyrics are totally senseless. It's not bad - maybe a sign that their next album might be decent? I don't know. That would be cool, but I'm not keeping my hopes up.

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Originally posted by sans_success:
Hmmm, certainly better then "Beverly Hills" for sure. It's got a lot more of the older Weezer sound, but the lyrics are totally senseless. It's not bad - maybe a sign that their next album might be decent? I don't know. That would be cool, but I'm not keeping my hopes up.

I'll take new Weezer material regardless. Even though I can barely listen to Maladroit all the way through, "Keep Fishin'" is an incredible song. I actually like Make Believe, though I almost always skip "This Is Such a Pity" and "We Are All on Drugs".

I actually like "This Is Such a Pity," but "We Are All on Drugs" is an abomination. Besides that and "Perfect Situation" I found the rest of Make Believe boring and sterile.

I've only listened to "Pork and Beans" once and it didn't blow me away. It's definitely better than "Beverly Hills," but in general it sounds like a Green outtake. At this point I've just accepted that Weezer is never getting back to that Blue-Pinkerton peak. I'll still check it out, of course. Never count out a proven genius.

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Originally posted by odysseyandoracle:
I actually like "This Is Such a Pity," but "We Are All on Drugs" is an abomination. Besides that and "Perfect Situation" I found the rest of Make Believe boring and sterile.

I've only listened to "Pork and Beans" once and it didn't blow me away. It's definitely better than "Beverly Hills," but in general it sounds like a Green outtake. At this point I've just accepted that Weezer is never getting back to that Blue-Pinkerton peak. I'll still check it out, of course. Never count out a proven genius.

A Green outtake can be a good thing (see Sugar Booger). As for Make Believe, I thought the standout tracks were Perfect Situation, Hold Me, and Freak Me Out. I thought Peace and Pardon Me just lacked that little something that would put them up there as well.

Weezer went downhill after the Green Album.

The Blue Album was fantastic, as was the Green album.
Pinkerton was alright too...but after that, they weren't enjoyable. Make Believe was disgusting.

After listening to Pork and Beans...nope, probably won't like the new album.

Not a bad cover though, I laughed.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Weezerred.jpg

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I heard that Rivers is an "asshole" to work with. He's bossy and subborn.

I really like Weezer, but I always think that Rivers' music sounds like it needs an editor or a filter or something like that. Like someone needs to be there to say "Umm, Rivers... 'Pork and Beans' is a stupid name for a song." But I guess if he's bossy and stubborn, then he's not going to listen anyway.

I've always wondered if Matt Sharp's departure (after Pinkerton) had anything to do with the decline in Rivers' songwriting. Who knows, maybe Matt played the role of a editor/filter on Rivers' songs on the first two albums? Matt Sharp seems to be a very outspoken guy and maybe he was the only one that Rivers would listen to. Apparently Matt Sharp also claims that he is owed songwriting credits on some of Weezer's songs.

It's pretty clear that Sharp had a big impact on their first two albums. The decline in quality was obvious after his departure. Just listen to the bass playing on "Tired of Sex". Nothing like that has been heard on a Weezer album since he left.

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Originally posted by Everyoneanindividual:
They are SELL OUTS!!! Some people say they created two indie classics and that may be true but after all the MTV and VH1 airplay I don't give a damn!

This was a ridiculously dumb post.

The Blue Album got PLENTY of airplay (by mtv and vh1 nonetheless), and it was in no way indie. What...were they not famous before the cd came out or something? They've always been mainstream.

And even in some alternate universe, where they didn't start out popular and mainstream, is it really selling out to go on MTV and VH1? Getting your band popularity and fans is now considered selling out?

I could have sworn selling out was doing something you didn't believe in only to get money. Like a vegetarian doing a mcdonalds commercial, for example.

Yeah. Weezer was always popular, and although I wouldn't call them "mainstream" at first, they definitely were bordering on that title.

And on top of all that stuff about MTV and VH1, does no one else remember the video for "Buddy Holly" shipping out with Windows 95?

On a different note, I'm glad to see someone else making the arguement about Matt Sharp's influence on the band. He was always my favorite member, and I could definitely hear his absence after he left. The Rentals first album was actually better than anything Weezer has put out since he left the group. His later work has been rather hohum though.

The Rentals are putting out a new album this year though. They released an EP late last year called Last Little Life and it was fairly promising. It's worth checking out just for the song "Life Without a Brain". It's a great track.

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Originally posted by arcadefire1027:

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Originally posted by Everyoneanindividual:
They are SELL OUTS!!! Some people say they created two indie classics and that may be true but after all the MTV and VH1 airplay I don't give a damn!

I could have sworn selling out was doing something you didn't believe in only to get money. Like a vegetarian doing a mcdonalds commercial, for example.

Or like... "Beverly Hills"?
I don't feel much for Weezer, but it seems like an obvious example.

I don't know what Rivers's problem is, but while I hate Make Believe and "Beverly Hills" and they have all the signs of "selling out," I have a hard time calling it that. I mean, Blue is still by far their best selling album - what possible reason would he have for selling out? But "Beverly Hills" is such a pile of shit, and that video...man. There's probably no one in music who pisses me off as much as Rivers does.

The cover for the new album doesn't look promising either. I wish he would quit the attempts at being an ironic hipster.

Has anyone watched Rivers youtube videos "How to write a sawng"? I find them to be embarrassing. I think those videos pretty much sum him up now: meandering, self-indulgent, uninteresting.

Would anyone like to discuss their thoughts on the new album?

This isn't a final analysis, but what I've heard is really boring, if not as outrageously bad as Make Believe was. The "Pork and Beans" video makes me want to vomit. At this point they're running on reputation; aside from the 6 billion dollar recording budget, there's nothing to differentiate them from a dozen unsigned bands in your nearest metropolitan area.

I'm ready to start admitting that Weezer isn't coming back anytime soon.

The debut and Pinkerton were great. Everything since has been the exact same bubble gum crap recycled over and over. They should have been done ten years ago.

Fillmore never spoke truer words...