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Originally posted by Jglass:

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Originally posted by hudson:
So, that's the last I'll say about it. And If you kick me out, no one will ever get to read the "Beatles Review" i'm working on. I've got the White album and Abbey road spinning right now. My review is going to blow people's minds!

Hurry that ish up, son.

You can't hurry perfection.

And as to the Radiohead album, i'm starting to warm up to "all i need". I listened to it last night with all the lights off, It was good.

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OK, so everybody put the Radiohead album on, go to “Reckoner” and go to the 2:23 mark of that song. Now, from there, until about 3:18, that is absolutely gorgeous. Especially at the 2:50 mark when the strings kick in, wow. Or you could just hear whole the album and listen for it when it came up.

If dictionaries came with CD’s so that you could hear some definitions like dynamics, loud, etc. that’s the audio sample they would have for the word, “beautiful.” It’s amazing just how good these guys are and that further proves my point that they are great musicians.

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Bullshit. I can hear the difference between 128 and 192 and on some albums 192 and v0, I can definitely tell the difference between 192/v0 and 320. If there was no difference, then there would be no talk of "cd quality" (or lossless formats) and people would stick to 128kbps.

Any albums with a lot of electronics, really big differences in highs and lows, and/or string sections should be at a higher bitrate.

1) Yes, you CAN hear the difference between 128 and 192, if the original studio recording was at 192. What I am saying is, 75% of the CD's in retail stores were burned at 128. And unless you contact the record label there is no indication of what they burned it at.

2) People DO stick to 128. That's what the standard is on iTunes, Napster and other legal download methods. Yes, it's more "casual" but that's just the way it is so suck it up. Radiohead was NICE to provide you with 160 think of it that way; because they recognize that their music has a lot of depth.

3) The reason I got my huge-ass headphones is for my electronica, IDM, indie material. I care just as much about getting the most out of my audio as anyone else - so yeah I agree with you on that point. Just IN CASE, rip everything at 192 especially if it's electronic. The difference between 128 and 192 is greater than that of 192 and 320.

And Fragile I know exactly what segment you're talking about. I have "Reckoner" on repeat in my dorm and it's the only song where I looked up the lyrics.

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Originally posted by FragileKidA:
OK, so everybody put the Radiohead album on, go to “Reckoner” and go to the 2:23 mark of that song. Now, from there, until about 3:18, that is absolutely gorgeous. Especially at the 2:50 mark when the strings kick in, wow. Or you could just hear whole the album and listen for it when it came up.

If dictionaries came with CD’s so that you could hear some definitions like dynamics, loud, etc. that’s the audio sample they would have for the word, “beautiful.” It’s amazing just how good these guys are and that further proves my point that they are great musicians.

I agree KidA. That's a great moment on the album. I really love the closing of "Reckoner" as well. "All I Need" Through "Reckoner" is the wonderful heart of the album for me. I think "faust Aup" might be my favorite track actually. I love the irregular drumless vocal rhythem. I can just see Thom wagging his head back and forth as he sings it.

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What I am saying is, 75% of the CD's in retail stores were burned at 128. And unless you contact the record label there is no indication of what they burned it at.

Uhh..whaaaat? If I'm reading correctly, you think that CDs that are pressed and sent to the store to be physically sold are made from MP3s?

If that's what you think, you are waaay misinformed. Mastering engineers have thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of equipment at their disposal to make a record sound as perfect as possible. You think they work on records for days, with all that equipment, and when they're all done say, "OK, time to convert this PCM file to 128k MP3 and send it off to the record company"??!?!?

When Bob Ludwig, superstar mastering engineer, is burning the master copy of a project, he will go through up to 100 CDs, *just to find the one CD that sounds the best*. His ears are so sensitive and finely-tuned that he can readily hear the sonic differences between different physical media burned with the exact same data. In strict theory, this should be impossible, but many swear it's not, and that just illustrates the lengths they go to to ensure their work is as pristine and immaculate as can be.

Enough of that...my point is, Bob Ludwig isn't going to go to all that trouble to send out a disc of MP3s.

In any case, I love In Rainbows. Radiohead, those bastards, have done it again.

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Originally posted by Cyrone:
1) Yes, you CAN hear the difference between 128 and 192, if the original studio recording was at 192. What I am saying is, 75% of the CD's in retail stores were burned at 128.

Wait... what??? I want to see some proof of this, because I have the sinking feeling you're pulling it out of your ass. Lossless files can also be referred to as "CD-Quality." Gee, does that give it away?

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Originally posted by Cyrone:
2) People DO stick to 128. That's what the standard is on iTunes, Napster and other legal download methods. Yes, it's more "casual" but that's just the way it is so suck it up. Radiohead was NICE to provide you with 160 think of it that way; because they recognize that their music has a lot of depth.

OK, first of all, ITunes sells 192 quality files. They've also started selling 256, which is analogous to 320kpbs MP3s.

Second, it is not "NICE" of someone to sell you something. If you pay for it, you do not need to be grateful.

Do you know what Lossless is Cyrone?

So I was at a party tonight and a bunch of us piled in my car to listen to "Let Down" (from OKC), "Videotape", and "All I Need", and everyone was writing down lyrics they liked in the condensation on the glass. It was neat.
Dear In Rainbows
I love you very much.
Love, Brian.

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So I was at a party tonight and a bunch of us piled in my car to listen to "Let Down" (from OKC), "Videotape", and "All I Need", and everyone was writing down lyrics they liked in the condensation on the glass. It was neat.
Dear In Rainbows
I love you very much.
Love, Brian.

next time you go out to your car to listen to radiohead please invite me?

thanks

"whats the point of instruments?
words are a sawed off shotgun."

period.

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Originally posted by BContrat:
So I was at a party tonight and a bunch of us piled in my car to listen to "Let Down" (from OKC), "Videotape", and "All I Need", and everyone was writing down lyrics they liked in the condensation on the glass. It was neat.
Dear In Rainbows
I love you very much.
Love, Brian.

Dude what planet are you on, seriously you ain't living on the same planet as me. Please pick me up in your spaceship next time you go for a ride.

My friends and I jam out to Wu-Tang and Lil' Wayne.

I hang out with ghetto people. Not like suburban white kids... but gangsters. It's entertaining. I'm the "goofy ass white boy".

Actually, I'm lying. My friends are all white, and my best friend is metal head. But we still jam out to Wu and Weezy F Baby (and saw them both together! Weezy F is a midget)

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Originally posted by Mr. Twinkie:
Second, it is not "NICE" of someone to sell you something. If you pay for it, you do not need to be grateful.

Well... thanks. You've helped me understand why I get so many ungrateful customers in my pharmacy... this last 10 years I didn't realise that I was under an obligation to provide them with prescriptions, medicine, and advice for free. Who'd have thought... all this time it's been me that's been the asshole.

Things Dork Learned From This Thread:

-ericg75 is part of a vast conspiracy whose only goal is to harass, threaten and eventually ban hudson, leading to a fascistic takeover of Metacritic, CNET, and, in time... the world!

-CDs are not, as we had previously thought, CD quality, but rather vastly diminished mp3 files, and in fact most audio is recorded with extremely low fidelity digital encoding in the first place. We've been lied to all this time!

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Originally posted by Jglass:
My friends and I jam out to Wu-Tang and Lil' Wayne.

I hang out with ghetto people. Not like suburban white kids... but gangsters. It's entertaining. I'm the "goofy ass white boy".

Actually, I'm lying. My friends are all white, and my best friend is metal head. But we still jam out to Wu and Weezy F Baby (and saw them both together! Weezy F is a midget)

I blast the Wu constantly. Although the only Weezy I've been playing lately is Da Drought 3.

Dork = Sarcastic Robot

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Originally posted by Mike:
Dork = Sarcastic Robot

I love you too Mike.

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CDs are not, as we had previously thought, CD quality, but rather vastly diminished mp3 files

i finally found a review that truly understands what this is all about. someone was finally brave enough to know this is a swindle and a trully terrible album:

radiohead - in rainbows review

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Originally posted by raindogtrombone:
i finally found a review that truly understands what this is all about. someone was finally brave enough to know this is a swindle and a trully terrible album:

radiohead - in rainbows review

Jesus. I wasn't exactly thrilled by the album but it seems like there really wasn't any point at all in this guy listening to it. There was no chance he'd like it.

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Because they didn't send me anything and I refuse to pay for the album, I haven't even actually listened to it. I just know based on my own prejudgments and assumptions that it's going to suck and those douches in Radiohead are running all the way to the bank.

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Originally posted by Borachon:
Well... thanks. You've helped me understand why I get so many ungrateful customers in my pharmacy... this last 10 years I didn't realise that I was under an obligation to provide them with prescriptions, medicine, and advice for free. Who'd have thought... all this time it's been me that's been the asshole.

You just said it. "For free." You aren't selling it, so they should be grateful. Imagine the phrase "thank you for selling me this." It doesn't sound quite right, does it?

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Originally posted by Commontone:
Uhh..whaaaat? If I'm reading correctly, you think that CDs that are pressed and sent to the store to be physically sold are made from MP3s?

They don't have to necessarily be mp3 files for them to be recorded at that bitrate.

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Wait... what??? I want to see some proof of this, because I have the sinking feeling you're pulling it out of your ass. Lossless files can also be referred to as "CD-Quality." Gee, does that give it away?

Are the files that Radiohead is distributing lossless? Then I don't see what the point of bringing that into the discussion is. I'm getting most of my info from this one "Idiot's Guide To..." book I don't remember what it was called but it was very interesting. I'm sure there are a few Wiki stubs out there on this as well. BTW I didn't know that iTunes started using 192 so maybe I'm behind the times in that area.