just when you thought these guys had realized that a) they're not the beatles; 2) they're not even the best british band of the 90s; and c) you have to do more to entertain a live audience than sit down in a chair or turn away from the crowd with indifference, looks like the cock-sure cockney-accented lads are already claiming '05 will be their year, with a new album, sold out shows in the States, etc.

anyone think that it's possible for oasis to make a comeback on our shores? i for one think people just don't give a shit about them, and haven't for years.

Yeah, they're not the Beatles. Neither is anyone else. Personally, I like the swagger and attitude that Oasis brings to rock and roll, and they've had enough big hits to justify at least some of it. I thought the last record was really strong, and I'm looking forward to the new one. They're also one of the best live bands I've ever seen.

I don't think the general US populace will care. I think anyone with any inclination towards Britpop is tingly with excitement.

Astro-Malkmus: don't take offense, but I'm moving this thread over to Alternative. We try to post specfic band threads under the genre headings.

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Oasis are the perfect representation for the type of music that I hate. Egos larger than talent. Imitation instead of inspiration. I hope this finally leaves them completely washed up.

I've never really understood the overwhelming acclaim for Oasis. I like them. There's some good music there. But, I am still amazed at the enormous succes (What's the Story) Morning Glory? enjoyed.

I saw that tour at the American Theatre in St. Louis and actually thought Noel's swagger was kind of entertaining and amusing, but I doubt that was the reaction he was striving for. That being said, they were scary tight, which leads me to think he's a much smarter, savvier individual than he's generally given credit.

I'll be curious to hear the new one, but won't be going out of it. I think pE is right. It's a Britpop thing and I'm hot and cold on Britpop.

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Oasis has a few songs that I kinda like, but I basically find them one of the most generic bands in the world. They really don't bring anything new to music...at all. They aren't unique and they don't really have anything they can call their own. (Unless you count the megalomania).

They, like U2, are the kind of band that try consciously to sing the kind of music that they think people will call great music. Award-show designed....the kind that wins grammies.

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If anyone's interested (doubtful)...

Here's the new single.

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We used to care about Oasis, and now we don't.

I still regard "Definitely Maybe" as their best album, a monolithic, steamrolling juggernaut that just crushes everything around it (whatever that means...). Also, although Noel is, well, not the most gifted lyricist of the past decade, the lyrics on DM are fine, ranging from funny ("Cigarettes and Alcohol") to surreal ("Supersonic") without trying too hard to say anything. Gimme nonsense lyrics any day over banal lyrics.

I remember seeing Oasis in a small, 200 person venue in Toronto before DM had been released here. All I had heard at that point was "Supersonic" and "Live Forever", I think. Noel and Liam got off the bus and walked in the front door of the venue, right past me and my friend, and we said hi. One of my only brushes with fame -- pathetic, eh?

"What's the Story" is one of the most overrated albums of the last decade. Half of it is just dreadful, and the other half has good pop songs with generally terrible lyrics. Since then, almost nothing of interest, aside from a song or two since.

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Originally posted by Malkmus or Astro-malkmus?:
just when you thought these guys had realized that a) they're not the beatles; 2) they're not even the best british band of the 90s; and c) you have to do more to entertain a live audience than sit down in a chair or turn away from the crowd with indifference, looks like the cock-sure cockney-accented lads are already claiming '05 will be their year, with a new album, sold out shows in the States, etc.

anyone think that it's possible for oasis to make a comeback on our shores? i for one think people just don't give a shit about them, and haven't for years.

Oasis don't have cockney accents - they're from Manchester. If you accused them of being cockney there'd be a fight!

They're still crap though.

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Oasis used up their 15 minutes many times and caused too much drama for me to care too deeply about them.

As much as Oasis drink, fight and swear, much to the appeal of the tabloid press, their music is incredibly sub-standard. If you read the song-writing credits on Oasis albums they read something like 'Gallagher, Lennon & McCartney' (seriously!). Oasis pay out a good deal of their royalties to members of rock nobility.

The game is up (it has been for a long time). They weren't even signed to Creation records - IT WAS A SHAM. They were signed to Sony. Sony knew that if the NME found out they were on their label, the band would get bad reviews. Creation stepped in and took a cut of the money for handling PR. NME gladly stuck their tongue down the back of Oasis' trousers. NME have always been suckers for 'the underdog'. The working class success story was just too good to pass up.

Given that and Oasis' obvious penchant for stealing other band's songs and you have a band as fake as the day is long.

Noel is a dreadful guitarist. Liam does little as a frontman other than stand there and abuse journos. As for the rest of them - well frankly, who cares? Oasis are (were?) the biggest con since the Sex Pistols. At least the Sex Pistols had angst. Oasis were at best a boring band with excellent PR/management. They are now psuedo middle-class idiots with semi-famous wives and big country houses. It makes all that Blur/Oasis rivalry seem slightly hypocritcial. 'He lives in a house, a very big house in the country'. Indeed.

For a better insight into brit-pop see Pulp. Jarvis Cocker was an honest representation of the whole genre.

I've not been a major fan of Oasis. I own the debut, and sure it's good, but still vastly over-rated.

I don't like much, and the majority of their releases have been rubbish, Lyla, being an example.

But, The Importance of Being Idle is fantastic, and has got my interest.

no, i don't care about oasis. thank you and goodnight.

just think of all the great lost bands scattered all over the world....would you still waste time listening to oasis??????

People listened to Oasis because they were ADVERTISED in capital letters with big flashy pictures. Alan Mcgee supposedly 'signed' them to 'creation records' (aka Sony). It was a complete rip-off. Oasis were never signed to creation. It was a media scam and all the 'alternative' people fell for it. NME shifted several hundred-thousand copies. Sony made a fortune.

Oasis still pay royalties to members of rock nobility (the late John Lennon, McCartney etc...). The whole band is assembled out of musical left-overs from previous eras and media promotion. They haven't done an honest day's work in their lives!

Oasis are sold as working class heroes. In reality they are scumbags who blagged their way to success, stepping on the backs of several friends to get there and became pseudo middle class in the process. They are the musical equivalent of their old mate Tony Blair (anyone remember 10 Downing street?).

Never has such a talentless and uninteresting band been put on such a high pedestal.

I'm truly sorry to anyone who loves them, but they are simply media puppets with attitude.

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Originally posted by Peewee:
We used to care about Oasis, and now we don't.

I still regard "Definitely Maybe" as their best album, a monolithic, steamrolling juggernaut that just crushes everything around it (whatever that means...). Also, although Noel is, well, not the most gifted lyricist of the past decade, the lyrics on DM are fine, ranging from funny ("Cigarettes and Alcohol") to surreal ("Supersonic") without trying too hard to say anything. Gimme nonsense lyrics any day over banal lyrics.

I remember seeing Oasis in a small, 200 person venue in Toronto before DM had been released here. All I had heard at that point was "Supersonic" and "Live Forever", I think. Noel and Liam got off the bus and walked in the front door of the venue, right past me and my friend, and we said hi. One of my only brushes with fame -- pathetic, eh?

"What's the Story" is one of the most overrated albums of the last decade. Half of it is just dreadful, and the other half has good pop songs with generally terrible lyrics. Since then, almost nothing of interest, aside from a song or two since.

When I think of Oasis I can't help but wonder if the rock world wanted another class act like the Beatles, to the point that they sold us a band that loves trashing each other more than making music. I have a difficult time liking a band that doesn't respect their craft. Oasis doesn't respect rock and the potential of music. Sorry media, but they are not the next Beatles; never will be. You created them, we initially bought them, now we are trying to forget them.

I care enough about Oasis to read reviews of the new albums and read any interview I can get my hands on. They crack me up, better than The Ruttles for overthetop zaniness. I feel kind of guilty, like I'm listening to some gossip about a crazy aquaintence of mine from back in my college days. Listen to their new music? Not unless Paul Weller has Noel stumming somewhere in the background of one of his songs.

admit it. you really really wanted to hate oasis but the music is so rocking and so grand and cocky. its really infectious. "dont believe the truth" was rubbish in my opinion though. i think they will never be huge like they once were but they have laid down some really rocking tunes. "gas panic!!" is my absolute favorite.

I don't care for Oasis, never have done. probaly never will. Theyre music has always come across as lazy and bland to me. Theyre lyrics are goddamn awful e.g She's got one in the oven?' WTF? Theyre singing is atrocious. And their egos and attitudes need adjustments..