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Slate's music club discussion of the year in music is pretty fascinating. (There are nine entries, so click on number 1 to read from the beginning, the last is the one that will load first.) The three critics - Jody Rosen, Robert Christgau, and Ann Powers - make some good points, although I think it's rather amusing that they are nearly as dismissive of the indie movement as of the mainstream. They're so elite, they're too elite for indie! Almost reverse snobbery if you will, although I'm glad they seem to think it's possible to appreciate good music whatever the source. Regarding the recent debate over African-American music and its influence or lack thereof, Jody makes the following point in this response: "Also notice how many of them, from M.I.A. and LCD on down, aim their songs at the dance floor. I mention this because of the recent cause célèbre in critical circles, Sasha Frere-Jones' New Yorker essay 'A Paler Shade of White,' which decried indie rock's lily-whiteness and lack of swing. I don't intend to wade into that debate, which has played out in these pages and elsewhere. But I do want to point out that indie gets pretty interesting, and pretty rhythmic, once you venture outside the axis of Zach Braff-approved balladeers." And I think she's right - look at the universal love for Kala (which has appeared on nearly every critical year-end list), for instance.

The funniest response is probably this one from Robert Christgau, who manages to knock two of my favorite albums of the year and still make me laugh: "Although she's obviously sharp, I don't feel either of those tendencies in Feist, who sounds like she gets her jollies hanging out in wine bars I can't afford (where she'll get picked up by Matt Berninger of the National, who'll hate himself or maybe her in the morning)." And then he proceeds to describe the prevailing "indie orthodoxies" with alarming accuracy (think Paste vs. Pitchfork). However, he does ultimately conclude that "no matter how much we may and should bitch, we're so much better off with them than without them."

Anyway, if you take the time to read the entries, it's guaranteed to spark some discussion and disagreement, so have at it!

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My favorite dis was from one of the women, I paraphrase, but gist of comment regarding pitchfork elitism was "I just don't get Animal Collective!"

Been listening to Strawberry Jam last few weeks and to my ears truer words this year have not been spoken...Like so much expiremental stuff but just about everything this band does seems offputting, wimpy, and inscrutable...to each his own, but personally will never understand the love P4K or many posters on this board feel for this band.
 
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Sputnikmusic's Top 50: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bestof2007

1. Burial - Untrue
2. The Kidcrash - Jokes
3. Radiohead - In Rainbows
4. Panda Bear - Person Pitch
5. Thrice - The Alchemy Index: Vols. I and II...
6. Ghastly City Sleep - Ghastly City Sleep
7. Battles - Mirrored
8. Pharoahe Monche - Desire
9. Minus the Bear - Planet of Ice
10. Say Anything - In Defense of the Genre
11. Streetlight Manifesto - Somewhere in the Between
12. Tartar Lamb - Sixty Metonymies
13. Eluvium - Copia
14. Do Make Say Think - You, You're a History in Rust
15. Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
16. Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam
17. Justice - Cross
18. The National - Boxer
19. Klute - The Emporer's New Clothes
20. Fair to Midland - Fables From a Mayfly
21. Blonde Redhead - 23
22. Raine Maida - The Hunters Lullaby
23. Primordial – To the Nameless Dead
24. Grinderman - Grinderman
25. Sigh - Hangman's Hymn
26. Hopesfall - Magnetic North
27. Hot Cross - Risk Revival
28. Feist- The Reminder
29. Moonsorrow – V: Havitetty
30. No Age – Weirdo Rippers
31. The Pax Cecilia - Blessed are the Bonds
32. Between the Buried and Me - Colors
33. Neurosis - Given to the Rising
34. El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead
35. 108 - A New Beat From a Dead Heart
36. PJ Harvey - White Chalk
37. Joanna Newsom – Joanna Newsom and the Ys Street Band
38. Damien Dempsey - To Hell Or Barbados
39. The Dead C - Future Artists
40. LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
41. Dälek – Abandoned Language
42. The Dirty Projectors - Rise Above
43. Sixx:AM - Heroin Diaries Soundtrack
44. Dan Deacon – Spiderman of the Rings
45. Angels of Light - We Are Him
46. Liars - Liars
47. Stephen Marley - Mind Control
48. Ghost - In Stormy Nights
49. The Fall of Troy - Manipulator
50. Lindsey Boullt - Composition
 
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The guys at DoA have posted their final lists. Here is the link for the main page, which features all of the writer’s individual lists, the consensus list and some specialty lists. Here are numbers 1-20:

1. Radiohead – In Rainbows
2. Spoon – Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
3. The National – Boxer
4. The New Pornographers – Challengers
5. Wilco – Sky Blue Sky
6. Modest Mouse – We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank
7. Arcade Fire – Neon Bible
8. Panda Bear – Person Pitch
9. Band of Horses – Cease to Begin
10. Okkervil River – The Stage Names
11. Of Montreal – Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer?
12. The White Stripes – Icky Thump
13. Battles – Mirrored
14. Big Business – Here Come the Waterworks
15. Animal Collective – Strawberry Jam
16. Pale Young Gentleman – S/T
17. Bon Iver – For Emma, Forever Ago
18. Feist – The Reminder
19. Iron and Wine – The Shepherd’s Dog
20. Sunset Rubdown – Random Spirit Lover


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FKA, thanks heaps for putting up the DoA list. I always have great difficulty getting onto the site. Smiler


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No problem, Ishy. Smiler

Cokemachineglow have posted their top 50 albums of 2007. They have a pretty unique and interesting list and through all of their diverse choices, they have a tremendous number one. Can anyone confirm if that is their first number one choice of the year?

Here is the link and here are numbers 20-1:

20. Feist – The Reminder
19. Jay-Z – American Gangster
18. Boris & Michio Kurihara – Rainbow
17. Nina Nastasia & Jim White – You Follow Me
16. Fog – Ditherer
15. Ned Collette – Future Suture
14. The National – Boxer
13. Of Montreal – Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer?
12. Radiohead – In Rainbows
11. Animal Collective – Strawberry Jam
10. Stars of the Lid – And their Refinement of the Decline
9. Deer Tick – War Elephant
8. Menomena – Friend & Foe
7. Frog Eyes – Tears of the Valedictorian
6. Pantha Du Prince – This Bliss
5. Battles – Mirrored
4. Panda Bear – Person Pitch
3. Supersilent – 8
2. Future of the Left – Curses
1. Spoon – Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga


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OH I like it like it like it like it! CMG's list is wonderful. It's just so f**cking original! And I don't even really like their unusual first place very much. I was glad to see Panda Bear, SOTL, Animal Collective, of Montreal and of course the National in the top 20. And it's a shocking fact that 6 of their top 10 albums don't even appear in P4K's top 50!!


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Good to see that one list got the memo that Deer Tick's "War Elephant" is an absolutely terrific album. It's about time that album got some love...


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Thrilled to see Supersilent ranked so high.
Am I mistaken or is the CMG list the only list anywhere to rate it?


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Supersilent's 8 received 8.4 from Pitchfork (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/ 47065-8) but didn't appear on their year-end list as well as Menomena (!!) that received 8.5. It's a bit funny that Deer Tick received 5.8 from P4K. And do you really think that This Bliss is better than From Here We Go Sublime? I was rather disoriented by Pantha Du Prince at the 6th.


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Here's a mildly amusing top-50 song list, with each song dedicated to a sports personality:

http://www.sportsline.com/spin/story/10547458


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Just saw that there was going to be a yahoo end of year list (sorry if it's already been posted). It's surprisingly very good, one of the best I've seen this year:

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/yradish/1265/the-best-albums-of-2007-1-to-10
 
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Just saw that there was going to be a yahoo end of year list (sorry if it's already been posted). It's surprisingly very good, one of the best I've seen this year:

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/yradish/1265/the-best-albums-of-2007-1-to-10


I thought it was a pretty good list. But, the comments after the list are hysterical.

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i've never even heard of any of these artists. your list sucks.


Never heard of Radiohead, Arcade Fire, Spoon, etc. Ha!

Or even better:

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Maybe this list supposed to be "artists who had the least sex in 2007" or "artists who took the most anti depressants in 2007" or "artists who took themselves too seriously in 2007"?


He might have a point with the anti-depressants comment! I've got to listen to of Montreal again.

And, here's another choice one:

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Wow, this entire list SUCKED! Every single album was from some lame, no name artist who nobody cares about. Wow...worst. List. Ever.


"Worst. List. Ever." Kinda says it all about the poster. Hey Hudson, was that you?

And finally, this classic:

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this whole list really blows!!!!!! #1 should've been MEGADETH - United Abominations!!!!! WOOOT!!!! NEVER HEARD OF ANY OF THESE OTHER LOSERS!!!!! MUSIC NOW A DAYS IS A BUNCH OF CRAP!!!!!!!


Megadeath at #1. That's just adorable, isn't it? And he thinks our taste in music is a bunch of crap?!?!!

The moral of this story is, if you're going to be a music critic for Yahoo! Music, you should know your audience.


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I thought it was a pretty good list. But, the comments after the list are hysterical.


Ha! Yeah... I enjoyed the comments too. Most of them had heard of Bruce Springsteen but were absolutely stumped by the rest of the list. Quality.


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I thought it was a pretty good list. But, the comments after the list are hysterical.

Hadn't read the comments after, they are hilarious.

I was pleasantly surprised becuase since it was Yahoo (a big company), I was thinking it was going to be all "popular" music. Had much more of an "indie" feel (whatever that means) than I would have expected.
 
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Yeah the Yahoo list is pretty decent, but it's got nothing on the comments that follow, so good in fact I'm considering leaving Metacritic to go and hang out with the clearly much more knowledgable Yahoo music crowd. Here's a few crackers:

This guy gets to the bottom of why Radiohead really chose their method of album release:

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There is a reason Radiohead made their album available for free... There are so few people who would be willing to pay for it that they HAD to make it available for a free download.


Yahoo music users are true music fans:

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It must have been hard to come with the best of the year. Since most music now days is complete garbage. There have only been ten or so decent albums in the last ten years.


But here's the winner:

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What the hell? Look this music should not be listed for some of the best of 2007. You want noteworthy bands? Let me name a few:
Muse
Foo Fighters
Tool
Queens of the Stone Age
Nine Inch Nails
Audioslave

And hey these bands may no longer be around, but they deserve to be on the list:
Nirvana
Rage Against the Machine

I know quite a few of the bands mentioned had no albums in 2007, but I'm just talking about their music overall. You cannot make a "best music list" for '07 cuz I think it was a pretty stagnant year for music (overall anyways).


Where's the Nirvana in our lists people? And see that? You cannot make a best music list for 07! Shit! Quick, someone delete the Final Best 2007 Album Lists thread.
 
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This guy gets to the bottom of why Radiohead really chose their method of album release:

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There is a reason Radiohead made their album available for free... There are so few people who would be willing to pay for it that they HAD to make it available for a free download.


But here's the winner:

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What the hell? Look this music should not be listed for some of the best of 2007...

hey these bands may no longer be around, but they deserve to be on the list:
Nirvana
Rage Against the Machine





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Ha ha... thanks for those gems. Just about spat coffee on my computer.


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this guy compiled a bunch of publications and website lists into a comprehensive top 100 albums list. pretty good actually.

http://rateyourmusic.com/lists/list_view?list_id=112700&show=10&start=90
 
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Originally posted by krugulitis:
this guy compiled a bunch of publications and website lists into a comprehensive top 100 albums list. pretty good actually.

http://rateyourmusic.com/lists/list_view?list_id=112700&show=10&start=90


Wonder if he used the FKA-EG75 scoring method...

Pretty interesting list though. He's clearly got too much time on his hands... (oh the irony!)


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OBNER Top 50 of 2007, voted for by members of the Obner music forums.

1 The National - Boxer
2 Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
3 Radiohead - In Rainbows
4 Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
5 Wilco - Sky Blue Sky
6 Andrew Bird - armchair apocrypha
7 LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
8 Okkervil River - The Stage Names
9 Band Of Horses - Cease To Begin
10 Of Montreal - hissing fauna, are you the destroyer?
11 Modest Mouse - we were dead before the ship even sank
12 The White Stripes - Icky Thump
13 M.I.A. - Kala
14 Frank Black - Bluefinger
15 Josh Ritter - the historical conquests of josh ritter
16 The Shins - Wincing the Night Away
17 Feist - the reminder
18 Babyshambles - Shotters Nation
19 Panda Bear - Person Pitch
20 Iron & Wine - The Shepherd's Dog
21 Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam
22 Les Savy Fav - Let's Stay Friends
23 Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
24 Kings of Leon - Because of the Times
25 Future of the Left - Curses
26 Jens Lekman - Night Falls Over Kortedala
27 Ike Reilly - We Belong to the Staggering Evening
28 Son Volt - The Search
29 The Avett Brothers - Emotionalism
30 Battles - Mirrored
31 Dinosaur Jr. - Beyond
32 Blonde Redhead - 23
33 The Broken West - I Can't Go On, I'll Go On
34 Burial - Untrue
35 Liars - s/t
36 The Good, the Bad & The Queen - The Good, the Bad & The Queen
37 The New Pornographers - Challengers
38 Kanye West - Graduation
39 St. Vincent - Marry Me
40 Deerhunter - Cryptograms
41 John Doe - A Year in the Wilderness
42 Ted Leo & the Pharmacists - Living With the Living
43 Jason Isbell - Sirens Of The Ditch
44 Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings - 100 Days and 100 Nights
45 !!! - Myth Takes
46 Tim Armstrong - A Poet's Life
47 Soulsavers - It's Not How Far You Fall, It's The Way You Land
48 The Besnard Lakes - Are the Dark Horse
49 Richard Hawley - Lady's Bridge
50 Bruce Springsteen - Magic
 
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The Silent Ballet's Top 50 list (instrumental)

http://www.thesilentballet.com/tsbt/2007/50_41.html

Top 10:
1. Grails - Burning off Impurities (Temporary Residence)
2. Caspian - The Four Trees (Dopamine)
3. Balmorhea - Balmorhea (Self-Released)
4. Vladislav Delay - Whistleblower (Humme)
5. Tulsa Drone - Songs From a Mean Season (Perpetual Motion Machine)
6. Kashiwa Daisuke - Program Music I (Noble)
7. Six Parts Seven - Casually Smashed to Pieces (Suicide Squeeze)
8. The World on Higher Downs - Land Patterns (Plop)
9. Giuseppe Ielasi - August (Spekk)
10. Opitope - Hau (12k)
 
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