I still wait anxiously for the CMG list. They always have a different list (sometimes it seems intentionally so), and they keep up with a lot of the releases that fly by my radar. That said, if Supersilent's 8 comes out on top...that album throws me just as much as Person Pitch does.
Now I gotta go check out that Five Roses album. Curse you, Troy.
Posts: 305 | Location: AVA | Registered: 24 June 2006
The Rolling Stone list isn't that bad, although I find it hard to believe that Linkin Park have made one of the best 50 albums of the year, Paul McCartney's album is average at best, and the less said about Maroon 5 the better.
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Posts: 826 | Location: Glasgow | Registered: 21 December 2006
[QUOTE]Originally posted by spudthemagicelf: I'm a bit disappointed with the predictability factor in pitchfork's top 10 list. Usually there are a few albums that went under my radar during the year that land in the top 10... (like scott walker and liars)
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That has nothing to do with Pitchfork and everything to do with you. Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you hadn't followed music so well this year I mean Liars and Scott Walker were both in P4K's "Best Music" section last year so they weren't exactly curveballs...
Posts: 747 | Location: San Diego ==> Duke U. 2012 :D | Registered: 24 July 2006
It is laugh-out-loud funny how Pitchfork is criticized for being BOTH predictable AND trying hard to be unique and trendy. If they make a list we expect - predicatable. If they make a list with unusual picks - they are trying too hard to be different.
I like their list. 4 of 5 of my top 10 is included in theirs, and I think some albums are underrated. But obviously, I wouldn't want a list exactly like mine; what would the point of that be? The only thing I actually feel like mentioning about p4K's is the conspicuous lack of Sunset Rubdown and MIA being overrated as usual.
Posts: 747 | Location: San Diego ==> Duke U. 2012 :D | Registered: 24 July 2006
Originally posted by FragileKidA: Popmatters have released their top 60 albums of 2007. Here is the link. [/i]
Wow, I just lost some respect for Popmatters. Lyle Lovett? The Fratellis? Seriously, what a lame, trendy list. Try again next year, guys.
I've never heard of anyone being called trendy for liking Lyle Lovett.
I remember when he won a Grammy for best country album, and country radio DJ's complained that he was not "mainstream" country. He doesn't even get respect within his own genre.
I love Lyle's stuff. I haven't heard this album yet, but I'm definitely going to pick it up now.
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Posts: 462 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: 18 December 2006
I thought I'd share our (No Ripcord's) list with you all. I stayed in on my birthday to finish posting this so hopefully you'll find something to enjoy here. I was surprised by a few of the omissions (Kanye West, St Vincent, the Robert Plant/Alison Krauss record) but I think it's been a great year for music so there were bound to be some casualties.
Slate's music club discussion of the year in music is pretty fascinating. (There are nine entries, so click on number 1 to read from the beginning, the last is the one that will load first.) The three critics - Jody Rosen, Robert Christgau, and Ann Powers - make some good points, although I think it's rather amusing that they are nearly as dismissive of the indie movement as of the mainstream. They're so elite, they're too elite for indie! Almost reverse snobbery if you will, although I'm glad they seem to think it's possible to appreciate good music whatever the source. Regarding the recent debate over African-American music and its influence or lack thereof, Jody makes the following point in this response: "Also notice how many of them, from M.I.A. and LCD on down, aim their songs at the dance floor. I mention this because of the recent cause célèbre in critical circles, Sasha Frere-Jones' New Yorker essay 'A Paler Shade of White,' which decried indie rock's lily-whiteness and lack of swing. I don't intend to wade into that debate, which has played out in these pages and elsewhere. But I do want to point out that indie gets pretty interesting, and pretty rhythmic, once you venture outside the axis of Zach Braff-approved balladeers." And I think she's right - look at the universal love for Kala (which has appeared on nearly every critical year-end list), for instance.
The funniest response is probably this one from Robert Christgau, who manages to knock two of my favorite albums of the year and still make me laugh: "Although she's obviously sharp, I don't feel either of those tendencies in Feist, who sounds like she gets her jollies hanging out in wine bars I can't afford (where she'll get picked up by Matt Berninger of the National, who'll hate himself or maybe her in the morning)." And then he proceeds to describe the prevailing "indie orthodoxies" with alarming accuracy (think Paste vs. Pitchfork). However, he does ultimately conclude that "no matter how much we may and should bitch, we're so much better off with them than without them."
Anyway, if you take the time to read the entries, it's guaranteed to spark some discussion and disagreement, so have at it!
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Posts: 246 | Location: Virginia | Registered: 14 August 2006
I made some interesting discoveries when applying FKA-EG75 to Pitchfork's individual staff lists (in place of their free points allocation system). In short, the top four was considerably far ahead of the rest, and Sound of Silver was in first place ahead of Person Pitch, which was number 2, by almost 62%!
Cease to Begin (unranked) placed 25th with this method, while Neon Bible (27th) placed 127th. Fall Out Boy's Infinity on High would have made their top 50 as well. The Shepherd's Dog was the highest riser in the top 50, moving from 36 to 14.
There are a lot of interesting things (in my opinion at least), so if anyone wants me to post the results, I can do that.
Poted by winterwonderlandoas Slate's music club discussion of the year in music is pretty fascinating.
I also read through the entire discussion. Christgau is a long- time favourite critic of mine, and I couldn't agree more with his notes on Feist. What particularly amused me (as I have felt the same way) were his thoughts on The National, who he initially hated, and I think still largely does; only to come around on 'Fake Empire'. Ann Powers didn't bring much to the debate, but its' intriguing to see these old print guys sizing up the 'new media' bloggers and critics.
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Posts: 2196 | Location: The ever silent spaces of the East | Registered: 12 February 2007
Sad as it may be, I had the vast majority of Pitchfork's list (around 40 albums) before it went up, so I ended up tracking down the rest of the albums and putting the whole thing on my Nano, with the exception of Bon Iver. I actually really like it, even though a few of my favorites were left off - Ted Leo and Andrew Bird, for starters. Has anybody else done this, either this year or in the past?
Posts: 1 | Location: Chicago | Registered: 22 December 2007
Originally posted by krugulitis: anyone listened to the npr fan's top 25 list yet? opinions?
Oh, wow. I was expecting something different, but that is the most boring list I've ever seen. Someone posted the local Minnesota NPR music editor's favorite picks earlier, and that was a lot more interesting.
Posts: 3999 | Location: NE Indiana | Registered: 14 April 2005
Originally posted by Rygar: I made some interesting discoveries when applying FKA-EG75 to Pitchfork's individual staff lists (in place of their free points allocation system). In short, the top four was considerably far ahead of the rest, and Sound of Silver was in first place ahead of Person Pitch, which was number 2, by almost 62%!
Cease to Begin (unranked) placed 25th with this method, while Neon Bible (27th) placed 127th. Fall Out Boy's Infinity on High would have made their top 50 as well. The Shepherd's Dog was the highest riser in the top 50, moving from 36 to 14.
There are a lot of interesting things (in my opinion at least), so if anyone wants me to post the results, I can do that.
This sounds interesting, do you mind posting your list?
1. Person Pitch - Panda Bear 2. Aman Iman - Tinariwen 3. Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga - Spoon 4. Icky Thump - The White Stripes 5. Boxer - The National 6. Volta - Bjork 7. Untrue - Burial 8. Kala - M.I.A. 9. Trees Outside The Academy - Thurston Moore 10.100 Days, 100 Nights - Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings 11.West Coast - Studio 12.Challengers - The New Pornographers 13.Super Taranta! - Gogol Bordello 14.Maths + English - Dizzee Rascal 15.Les Ondes Silencieuses - Colleen 16.Cryptograms - Deerhunter 17.The Flying Club Cup - Beirut 18.Miss Diamond To You - Kathy Diamond 19.Good Bad Not Evil - The Black Lips 20.Hissing Fauna, Are You The Destroyer? - Of Montreal
Interesting list. Obviously they're only allowed to choose albums from their catalogue, but it's possibly all the better for it.
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Posts: 826 | Location: Glasgow | Registered: 21 December 2006