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Jedi
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I like this list because it includes a lot more albums that "aren't cool" to like. Most notably near the top we have awesome albums by Bob Dylan, Robert Plant & Allison Krauss, Brian Wilson, and Bruce Springsteen. It's nice to see the old guys getting the credit they deserve, especially with the fantastic albums that they released this decade. I like the choice of White Blood Cells for the top album, it's an amazing album, though I wouldn't put it at number 1. Also nice to see the Hold Steady at 27. I feel like this list is a good mix of old and new rock/folk, with not a lot of *other* genres being represented very well. Any list that doesn't have a few hip-hop albums in the top 25 isn't as comprehensive as one would hope.
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| Posts: 1785 | Location: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: 16 August 2008 |    |
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quote: Robert Plant & Alison Krauss Raising Sand
- Still need to hear this one. quote: and also, another list that neglects the sheer awesomeness of Spencer Krug...
- just goes to show that Sunset Rubdown will be one of those acts that future kids will dig up at record stores (if they're still around, that is) and blow their impressionable minds with.
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| Posts: 550 | Location: East Lansing, Michigan | Registered: 04 March 2005 |    |
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I love White Blood Cells at number one. Great album. This is a pretty good list that includes a lot of wonderful albums Pitchfork ignored (nice to see three Drive By Truckers albums, not to mention The Stage Names, Asleep In The Back, Rabbit Fur Coat, and others).
It's only hurt by some understandable, but still pretty awful mainstream/dad rock stuff, and some stuff that's just sort of inexplicable (Dylan's Together Through Life? That's his worst CD this decade. Babyshambles? The Good, The Bad, and The Queen? Rufus Wainwright's Want One?) It's also a little too heavy on folk/alt country for my tastes. But I guess it's a trade off since it's not clogged with dance and mainstream hip hop like the Pitchfork list.
Also, I love Jack White as much as the next guy, but seriously, all five White Stripes albums, both Racontuers albums, AND Loretta Lynn's Van Lear Rose made this list? That's a little ridiculous. I'm surprised they didn't find room for The Dead Weather and the first Von Bondies album as well.
Also also, after Alligator's surprising upset of Boxer on the Pitchfork list, this makes the second straight list where Alligator came out on top (Boxer didn't even make this list). Are we seeing the consensus shift to Alligator as the stronger album? I go back and forth depending on my mood.
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Jedi
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This is not a great list, and where Pitchfork gets put under a microscope and scrutinized and criticized, this list will get polite accolades just because its different. It's giving credit to a lot of mediocre albums and at times values safety over innovation (see: In Rainbows>Kid A??). And maybe they should just not pretend to be hip-hop fans, and call it the best "Rock and Folk of the decade." The pat on the back to Dizzee Rascal at #52 as their highest-rated hip-hop...dubious. I do, however, enjoy the folk-rock bent of the lists, notably the attention given to Lambchop, Ryan Adams, My Morning Jacket, and Gillian Welch. A Ghost is Born is great too, and I'm interested in seeing critical consensus surrounding this album as other decade lists trickle out. p.s. Baffling inclusion of 69 Love Songs, which came out three months before the end of 1999. But if you are gonna deem it eligible, 54 is way too low.
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| Posts: 1118 | Location: San Diego//Duke University | Registered: 24 July 2006 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by BContrat: This is not a great list, and where Pitchfork gets put under a microscope and scrutinized and criticized, this list will get polite accolades just because its different. It's giving credit to a lot of mediocre albums and at times values safety over innovation (see: In Rainbows>Kid A??)
In Uncut's 'defence' it is a niche magazine with a small readership. 'Contemporary' or even 'modern' music really isn't their forte. But like you say, their token nod to 'hip hop' is kind of lame/redundant.
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| Posts: 395 | Location: Melbourne, Australia | Registered: 27 June 2007 |    |
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quote: p.s. Baffling inclusion of 69 Love Songs, which came out three months before the end of 1999. But if you are gonna deem it eligible, 54 is way too low.
Came out in 2000 in the U.K. and most of the world, so technically it's eligible I suppose, but yeah, if so, No.54 is way too low.
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| Posts: 395 | Location: Melbourne, Australia | Registered: 27 June 2007 |    |
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Yeah, I guess so. quote: Originally posted by Stocky: 145 - Iron & Wine Our Endless Numbered Days 134 - Radiohead Hail to the Thief 130 - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!! 128 - Antony and the Johnsons I Am A Bird Now 115 - Steven Malkmus & The Jicks Real Emotional Trash 114 - The Raconteurs Consolers of the Lonely 113 - The Shins Chutes Too Narrow 112 - Beirut The Flying Club Cup 104 - Grizzly Bear Veckatimest 98 - The Avalanches Since I Left You 95 - Grandaddy The Sophtware Slump 90 - Bright Eyes I'm Wide Awake, it's Morning 87 - Queens of the Stone Age Rated R 76 - Beck Seachange 75 - Gorillaz Demon Days 74 - Elbow Asleep in the Black 73 - Elliott Smith Figure 8 59 - The White Stripes De Stijl 56 - Sonic Youth Murray Street 50 - Cat Power The Greatest 49 - PJ Harvey Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea 40 - Boards of Canada Geogaddi 36 - Johnny Cash American IV: The Man Comes Around 30 - Sufjan Stevens Illinois 26 - Lambchop Nixonland 25 - Radiohead Kid A 23 - Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man Out of Season 16 - LCD Soundsytem Sound of Silver 15 - Radiohead In Rainbows 14 - Primal Scream XTRMNTR 12 - Portishead Third 11 - The Flaming Lips Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots 1 - The White Stripes White Blood Cells
Hell no, you bland, predictable bastards who likely only buy music at Starbucks. quote: Originally posted by Stocky: 148 - Franz Ferdinand Franz Ferdinand 136 - The Strokes Room on Fire 103 - Missy Elliott Miss E...So Addictive 93 - The Streets A Grand Don't Come For Free 79 - Kings of Leon Only By the Night 77 - Kanye West The College Dropout 69 - Arctic Monkeys Favourite Worst Nightmare 68 - D'Angelo Voodoo 63 - The Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang 39 - Vampire Weekend Vampire Weekend 38 - Ryan Adams Gold 33 - Animal Collective Merriweather Post Pavilion 24 - Arctic Monkeys Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 21 - Joanna Newsom Ys
Huh? quote: Originally posted by Stocky: 124 - Brightback Morning Light Brightback Morning Light [really? you all thought it was that good?] 118 - Super Furry Animals Love Kraft [I love SFA, but this is easily their worst album] 109 - The White Stripes Icky Thump [did you guys miss a single album Jack White ever appeared on?] 105 - Steely Dan Two Against Nature [seriously? More than one post-millennium Steely Dan album?] 60 - Loretta Lynn Van Lear Rose [I think Jack White produced this one... I'm shocked Blanche's debut album didn't make the list too, he had a brief solo on that... all due respect to Loretta Lynn] 29 - Neil Young Chrome Dreams II [every post-millennium Neil Young album too?] 19 - Bruce Springsteen The Rising [And every album from the Boss?] 5 - The Strokes Is This It [It's aging that good for you guys, number 5 good? Have you listened to it in the past five years?] 2 - Bob Dylan Love and Theft [And every post-millennium Bob Dylan album, with enough votes to float this bloated, overrated, and overproduced piece of forgettable to number 2. Between Dylan, Steely Dan, Springsteen, and Neil Young alone, I take it everyone who writes for Uncut is over the age of 45. Good for you, I guess, but lord only knows why you'd even bother making a list like this when it's obvious you haven't listened to any new artists in the past decade or, at least, none that weren't already hyped to death by P4k] 1 - The White Stripes White Blood Cells [Well, between this, every WS album ever made, both Raconteurs albums, and Loretta Lynn all making the list, a Jack White record was bound to claim the number one spot. Hooray for variety]
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| Posts: 1348 | Location: Vansterdam, Canada | Registered: 28 November 2004 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Stocky: 123 - Doves The Last Broadcast 74 - Elbow Asleep in the Black
What do you think?
Hell yes! Excellent albums.
"You're the shit and I'm knee-deep in it."
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| Posts: 548 | Location: Portland, OR | Registered: 28 August 2008 |    |
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Hey Alan, have you been in a Starbucks lately?
Cause they sell a helluva lot more CDs by Iron & Wine, Bright Eyes, Beck, The Shins, Beirut, Johnny Cash, and The White Stripes (aka the bands on your first list) than they do The Streets, Kanye West, Missy Elliott, The Strokes, and Franz Ferdinand.
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Jedi
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quote: Originally posted by bonzob: Hey Alan, have you been in a Starbucks lately?
Cause they sell a helluva lot more CDs by Iron & Wine, Bright Eyes, Beck, The Shins, Beirut, Johnny Cash, and The White Stripes (aka the bands on your first list) than they do The Streets, Kanye West, Missy Elliott, The Strokes, and Franz Ferdinand.
As well as every Bob Dylan album made in the past decade. That's my point exactly. Starbucks actually has a lot of decent albums, but that should not be your only source for music, especially not if you are a professional music journalist.
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| Posts: 1348 | Location: Vansterdam, Canada | Registered: 28 November 2004 |    |
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Jedi
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quote: Originally posted by Stocky:
109 - The White Stripes Icky Thump [did you guys miss a single album Jack White ever appeared on?]
This is the best White Stripes album, though.
------ Aren't there any girls out their who like good music? I need to and want to meet them. My favorite bands are Overkill River, The Nife, Songs:Ohio, and Nuetral Milk Hotel. Please let me know if your into indy music and like to go to show's and drink beer's and makeout.
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| Posts: 2712 | Location: ATL-abouts. | Registered: 24 October 2006 |    |
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I got the point you were making, it just seemed weird that the albums you were pointing the Starbucks criticism at weren't really the types of albums they sell in Starbucks.
But yes, the list overall is very Starbucks-y.
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quote: Hell no, you bland, predictable bastards who likely only buy music at Starbucks.
I'm not saying you are wrong (you're not) but it seems harsh to knock Uncut for having the Streets, Kanye, Joanna Newsom, Animal Collective, Franz Ferdinand and (possibly) Vampire Weekend albums on their Albums of the Decade when most likely every publication is going to have most if not all those albums on their lists too. The 'Hell, no!' should be reserved for the truly inane choices, such as the Stones, Kings of Leon, Missy Elliott, and the wrong Ryan Adams album. I can excuse the two Arctic Monkeys selections because Uncut is English and so that band is more relevant/'important' to an English publication than they are to the rest of the world.
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| Posts: 395 | Location: Melbourne, Australia | Registered: 27 June 2007 |    |
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Damn all of these end of the decade lists are horrendous.
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I hate to say it, but I like Pitchfork's list better. There are too many important omissions and questionable choices for this to be even somewhat accurate. It is cool that they acknowledged Room on Fire, though. The top choice isn't bad, it's just Wilco's somewhat mediocre album, Bob Dylan's bleh album and the evil Brian Wilson album are following it. This list doesn't reflect the music of the decade in any way.
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