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Straight from the horse's mouth (not ass, and I know some of you are thinking it):

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/49084-pitchf...c-tv-channel-april-7

I think it's a great idea, and hope others follow. I'm especially hopeful that they get true high-def content.


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I think this looks really promising. Here's some more info not covered on the link above but on the press release. I copied this from
Stereogum.

Via press release:

One Week Only makes Pitchfork.tv the first online video channel to screen full-length feature films, vintage concerts, and music DVDs free of charge: From the Pixies' 2004 reunion tour film LoudQuietLoud and Todd Phillips' notorious GG Allin documentary Hated, to Jimmy Joe Roche & Dan Deacon's acid-drenched visual art piece Ultimate Reality, Pitchfork.tv will highlight a different film each week in its entirety.

You want full concerts? Pitchfork Live brings you on stage with your favorite bands, with intimate camerawork and carefully mic'd performances that put conventional soundboard mixes to shame, launching with a sweat-soaked night at NYC's Cake Shop with garage-punk maniac Jay Reatard.

Ever wonder how artists spend their time off tour? Daytripping puts you in the passenger seat for a day out with some of the most vibrant personalities in independent music. The premiere voyage: A trip to the Man Man house and studio in Philly to witness the making of their forthcoming album, Rabbit Habits.

Wish you were watching bands in your basement instead of fighting for a drink in crowded clubs? Welcome to Juan's Basement. Originally developed by upstart network Plum TV, the Emmy-nominated series is now exclusively booked and produced by Pitchfork. First up: Liars.

What happens when disparate artists are chosen to spend a day recording together in a Brooklyn studio? Treefort Sessions documents the unique artistic collaboration process from start to finish.

Ever thought the best place to see your favorite band would be as the sun was setting and the Empire State building glistened behind you? Don't Look Down brings artists to rooftops around New York and Chicago and says go. The series kicks off with a pitch-perfect set from Sub Pop rockers The Thermals, 24 stories high.

And, finally, The Interview Show brings today's best and most respected artists face-to-face with the Pitchfork critics who write their features and review their albums, opening with a colossal dual interview between two of the world's greatest metal bands: Mastodon and Neurosis.

Also worth noting: The content's all on-demand

Pretty awesome if you ask me.
 
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As much as I want to hate the this spawn of the beast, it actually sounds promising on paper. I don't know how they will pull all that off or if most of it (the "live" stuff, collaborations) has already been recorded. I'm glad they included a comedy bit as well - the Don't Look Down. Seriously, who the hell ever thought that the best place to see a band would be at the top of a skyscraper? Yes, the equivalent of putting a band in a wind tunnel with jet engine interference noise and low air pressure is exactly the kind of performance I'd like to see. Also, what will the consumer's cost be: ads, pretentious and incomprehensible ranting, or, god forbid, money?


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Pitchfork has finally overreached. This will go down hard and then they will have to give themselves a 2.3 for the effort.
 
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I'll actually tune in if they manage to pull this off... and if my apartment decides to give me a connection that isn't too shitty to stream content.
 
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I like the idea from all aspects. Pitchfork will only get bigger this way and they will have more advertisement opportunities, this is just smart business. Considering the mass amount of blogs/webzines with millions of reviews, this will set them apart.

Will I be watching? Depends on the bands they cover I guess.


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the way I see it its a win-win. Either pitchfork succeeds in giving us quality on-demand (presumable ad-supported content) or they fail miserable and we all have a good laugh about it.
 
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Meh.


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Don't be such pompous asses. You all love pitchfork and welcome their recommendations and you all know it. How can you sleep?


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Personally I sleep like a baby.. except better because I don't wake up in the middle of the night crying.
 
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I sleep in the morning. Generally around 6 or 7am.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Liberalkid:
Personally I sleep like a baby.. except better because I don't wake up in the middle of the night crying.


I get my crying out of the way right before I fall asleep.


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I get my crying out of the way right before I fall asleep.


Really? I like to cry in the morning, before I have to go out and face the pain of another day. Smiler


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Alright Elliott...
 
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I'm just saying. It's the cool thing to say over here at Metacritic that you personally don't like pitchfork, think they're a bunch of pretensious wankers. Or that you just "skim" the site, not taking much stock in what they say or their often times, harsh opinions. And I am here to call "bullshit". You are all full of it, and are pitchfork whores like I can be sometimes as well, but you people don't have the balls to admit. You bash them like big shots overhere and then you all probably have an open tab with pitchfork on it at all times, bookmarked to a Beirut EP review that you constantly jerk off to. Take a look at everyone's "top albums of whatever year" lists, esp 2007's...all you so-called pitchfork haters ape their selections so bad it makes me sick. Nobody likes Beirut, no one likes Burial, or Stars of the Lid...but if pitchfork does, you can count on at least 5 posers over here to say something gay like this, "yeah, i didn't like it at first, but if you REALLY listen to it, its genius starts to grow on you". No it doesn't. You are all critic whores who pretend to hate critics. Knock it off. I like rock and roll, i like indie rock, and i like critics opinions. You are not cool if you like pitchfork, you are not cool if you hate pitchfork.


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Dude the only reason I'm cool is because I hate pitchfork.
 
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Originally posted by Moses, R.M.:
I'm just saying. It's the cool thing to say over here at Metacritic that you personally don't like pitchfork, think they're a bunch of pretensious wankers. Or that you just "skim" the site, not taking much stock in what they say or their often times, harsh opinions. And I am here to call "bullshit". You are all full of it, and are pitchfork whores like I can be sometimes as well, but you people don't have the balls to admit. You bash them like big shots overhere and then you all probably have an open tab with pitchfork on it at all times, bookmarked to a Beirut EP review that you constantly jerk off to. Take a look at everyone's "top albums of whatever year" lists, esp 2007's...all you so-called pitchfork haters ape their selections so bad it makes me sick. Nobody likes Beirut, no one likes Burial, or Stars of the Lid...but if pitchfork does, you can count on at least 5 posers over here to say something gay like this, "yeah, i didn't like it at first, but if you REALLY listen to it, its genius starts to grow on you". No it doesn't. You are all critic whores who pretend to hate critics. Knock it off. I like rock and roll, i like indie rock, and i like critics opinions. You are not cool if you like pitchfork, you are not cool if you hate pitchfork.
I can only speak for myself, I don't hate Pitchfork. They do a decent job of giving attention to albums under the radar. In general, I don't really care for the reviews that they write or the scores the give. I think in many cases we all try and objectively categorize our subjective tastes in music and the staff at The Fork aren't any different. I probably visit twice a week, skim some of the reviews see if anything would interest me and leave spending probably less than an hour a week there total.

This isn't to say that the other review sites are so much better, just that reviews, in general, should be taken with a tablespoon of salt.

I'm fairly certain my list from last year was pretty unique and I can name more than a handful of posters here that could say the same. If you run through the 07 list thread, you would see some love for both Beirut and Burial by some members, however both of those albums were pretty divisive. And I'm not really sure what your comment about albums that are growers was about. Do you not believe them to exist?

I think a lot of the hating that goes on regarding Pitchfork is related to how extremely intelligent our members are here and whether some of them could do a better job than the people at Pitchfork, which is certainly debatable. I think that Pitchfork does have a propensity to miss some true gems, however.

Regarding the stream, I don't really care. I don't actively stream much music, so it doesn't particularly concern me, but it isn't a terrible idea.

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yeah, Mike Honcho you make some fair points. I do believe in albums being "growers". Slint's Spiderland is a perfect example. I had to listen to it 10 times before I "got it". I'm just saying that many on this site are claiming to like things completely independent of what p4k said about it, and i'm calling bullshit on those people. While I do find this board to made up of intelligent people, I don't agree that anyone here could write more eloquent, subversive, or witty reviews of albums than p4k does. Posters to this board owe a lot more credit to p4k for formulating their "taste" than they want to admit and give credit for. I'll admit, I've listened to some p4k recommendations 15 times and thought, "i don't get it" or "they are trying to be soooo under the surface indie here and it's annoying"...but i find that to be the vast minoirty of the situations. Keeping up with pitchfork gives you some indie cred, not the other way around. Pitchfork isn't so popular that you need to rally against it to prove your indie coolness. It is a site designed to help, it does, and you all like it, so just fucking admit it.


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Considering how much love Pitchfork gets, I've no qualms with a little hating every now and again.


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I don't like p4k just like I don't like Rolling Stone or Spin. None of them cover the music I listen to and when they do it's an album that I've already had for weeks or months.

You don't know who we are well enough to make a blanket statement like that. I haven't read a p4k review in.... I'm not sure how long. Its been a good while. I'm not trying to be cool, they just don't cover things I like. Chill dude. Don't be offended because we have more indie cred than you.

I don't care if they come off as pretentious, I don't care about their writing style. Like I said, I'm giving pitchfork.tv a shot, I think it sounds cool... not to mention that they're starting it off with a Jay Reatard show.

P.S. If you think p4k is "so under the surface indie" in their reviews, don't bother with TMT. Oh, and Burial were huge way before p4k got to them... it was the most anticipated Dubstep album of last year.
 
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