i know we cant see the future, but from 2005-present, do you think there has been an album that could overtake kid A when p4k does there albums of the decade list in a few years? illinois maybe? person pitch? thought?

they'll make a compilation of the best songs of the 2000s and will proclaim it best record of the decade. 0_0

Problem is that Kid A is being built up as a "classic" like so many albums from the decades before. There's going to be a general bias for it whenever people measure anything against it for this decade.

I'd probably put Funeral above it, and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot and You Forgot It In People right beside it. It's a great album, a great great album, but it certainly doesn't stand alone.

ya, i might too, but those were all put behind it (funeral was 45th!!!! ) in their best of 2000-2004. and i dont think anything since 05 is strong enough to beat it, MAYBE sufjan, but who knows.

Maybe if MBV come through with an album this year, it will be as stellar as Loveless.

I think if they re-released Loveless, it would probably get the P4K 10.0 bump.

Even though I'm a big Radiohead fan, it would be a shame having them hold number one for two consecutive decades. Especially since OKC stole the spot from Loveless. Nonetheless, there is not one surefire threat. Maybe YHF, TOTBL, Funeral, or Return to Cookie Mountain (a man can dream )

Of course there's a threat. We have no idea what Pitchfork will do; they're fairly unpredictable. If Pitchfork followed logic their end of the decade would have "Funeral" beating all those other 2004 albums it didn't on the first list.

I don't think "Kid A" will maintain...I think either "YHF" or "Since I Left You" or "Person Pitch".

Am i the only one that thinks nothing even comes close to matching Kid A this decade? Well, maybe not, but Funeral isn't even in the same league. Fuck, not even the same universe. I think they realized that the hype wasn't backed by an astounding and groundbreaking album and its rank in the mid-section of the top 100 of the decade was incredibly apt.

However, I do feel that Kid A may have some contenders, not to mention the fact that another year and a half will elapse before they shove that list down our throats as a definitive document of the best music of the past decade. Does anyone remember that they included Tori Amos in the top 10 of their original Top 100 albums of the 1990's? Yeah, i rest my case.

And i think Return to Cookie Mountain is actually a contender to be honest, at least more of a contender than the Knife, who took the top spot in 2006. Person Pitch doesn't stand a chance i think, but Sung Tongs could take it down in my opinion.

I'd surprise everyone and choose Yoshimi or possibly Fishscale

interesting, so you guys think they could rank an album ahead of it theyd already ranked behind kid a?

Hard to say. Kid A is pretty dang great.

I doubt Person Pitch will overtake it, I really doubt Since I Left You will either. Could be Funeral, but I guess we'll see.

I agree, don't see Person Pitch or Since I Left You doing it. Arcade Fire are now probably one of the most important/noteworthy bands of the decade, and they've hit it pretty big worldwide I'd say. I could see Funeral having an outside chance at top spot, and can't think of much else. You know, Pitchfork and Radiohead. Two peas in a pod.

I love lists and the politics of 'em

- The list will be based on votes by staffers (some weighted more than others I'd guess), and the composition of staff will be different in mid-09 than in early-05, with maybe less people for whom Kid A mattered a lot (but also more for whom it was a formative experience?)

- A record from 2000 which has already topped several lists might feel a little bit of a pat answer, or even defeatist: I remember reading Rolling Stones' end of the 80s list and interpreting placng London Calling at #1 as basically giving the finger to the rest of the decade.

- Plus maybe they'll want something a little more representative of the decade's music. Kid A may still be a great record (tho personally it never did much for me) but is it representative? What have the big trends this decade been? The commercial triumph of indie? The return of folk and folkish music? P2P and the iPod and the democratisation of taste? (Remember that their forthcoming book is about 500 TRACKS, not 500 albums)

The main thing that makes me think it might still be Kid A is the lack of an obvious unifying alternative.

whoa whoa whoa whos book?

"The commercial triumph of indie" - this is significant I reckon, and makes me think Funeral has got a decent shot.

"Return of folk" - yeah I suppose this will be documented in some way. I'll give Illinois and outside shot, though I doubt it. I'd say Ys is far too divisive to have a chance.

this book looks interesting...

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Even though I'm a big Radiohead fan, it would be a shame having them hold number one for two consecutive decades. Especially since OKC stole the spot from Loveless. Nonetheless, there is not one surefire threat. Maybe YHF, TOTBL, Funeral, or Return to Cookie Mountain (a man can dream )

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Here's how I stacked it a month ago, last time I thought about it...

1. The Woods – Sleater-Kinney
2. In Rainbows – Radiohead
3. Elephant – The White Stripes
4. Bubblegum – Mark Lanegan Band
5. Kid A – Radiohead

I mention "Since I Left You" as a potential number one not merely because of its high placing on the last list but mainly because of
the continuing praise it has received on the website. It's basically become a a common reference point, and has popped up in at least the recent reviews of Air France's EP and Jens Lekman's last album (both BNM). Always a good sign and a testament to its relevancy. But number one seems a bit high. This is my internal listmaking logic speaking, but a number one seems designed for an indie touchstone, like say, David Bowie or Sonic Youth or Radiohead. The Avalanches have released one record, an earshattering masterpiece that seems more likely to become the 00's "Endtroducing".

As an avid reader and constant defender (constant), I think their top 10 will look thusly:

Since I Left You
Person Pitch
Kid A
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Blueprint
The Glow, Part 2
Illinois
Sung Tongs or Feels or Strawberry Jam
Madvillainy
Ys

Alternates:
Drum's Not Dead
Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer?
Neon Golden
The Moon & Antarctica

Funeral has no chance. Indicative of the big cathartic, painstakingly self-reflective generation...who needs their day-to-day moments soundtracked to something, yes, but lacking in the originality (this coming from someone who really knows nothing about music) department (an important department). They'll probably be the requisite indie on Rolling Stone's list though (behind two Bob Dylans and two Springsteens).

Whichever Animal Collective album cracks the top ten will force the other two towards the bottom half of the hundred. Like David Bowie's Low forced four downwards. Love them or hate them, they are Pitchfork's heavily endorsed "Artists of the 00s" and the list will reflect that..

Look what this year has reduced me to! Prognosticating on a website's list patterns, geezo man, that book does look innaresting though...Amazon also introduced me to some 33 1/3 book series featuring a number of P4k writers. Thanks for the heads up!

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Kid A is great, but its not that influencial or a "defining document of the decade" as CleverName said. The most important rock albums of the decade strictly in terms of influence are Is This It? and White Blood Cells. Both came out in 2001 and countless bands for the past 7 years have fallen over themselves copying that sound and that should count for a lot.

Truthfully, neither is that original when put in context of rock history, but both were the first to bring the retro-garage sound back to the forefront. And both sounded newer and fresher than anything in a long time when they first came out. Just look at the year end lists from 1999 and 2000 before these both came out. Indie rock, and even mainstream rock music was a lot different.

I think Kid A is incredibly important and very much defines this decade. It still sounds incredibly fresh and singular and absolutely fantastic, which is really what all of their decade #1's do.

It only makes sense that Kid A will win according to their other decade topping albums, all of which sound extremely timeless and haven't aged a bit:

Low
Daydream Nation
OK Computer
Kid A

Now that list makes sense, doesn't it? Number two has usually been reserved for something that defined a movement i'd say, rather than something that is absolutely brilliant through and through that simply cannot be topped:

London Calling
Remain In Light
Loveless
The Blueprint

All of those albums are fantastic, but they're much less dynamic than the #1 spot (i.e. If you don't like punk or post-punk, you won't like the first two, if you don't like shoegaze or space pop then Loveless won't really work out, and if you hate hip-hop, there's no chance of liking the Blueprint)

In fact, p4k made it a point in their 1990's list to state how MUCH better OK Computer is than Loveless, their #2.

Simply put, i think it would be a sham if anything else but Kid A were put at #1 (and it's not even my favorite album of the decade, it's just THAT good).