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Slacker First Class |
Stop screaming in caps and overusing the "!" like a Sony fanboy. Wake up and smell the coffee and realize not everyone sees the ps3 as the ultimate perfect system. Everything has pros and cons, ps3 included. Oh and the lack of a rumble pack. They also removed a feature that was really nice too. Also not a smart move on Sony's part. Now I guess Sony has released a new controller with a rumble pack, so they have realized their mistake. Quick, run out and buy that controller and chuck the others in the trash. I hope they decide to pack that one in the box eventually. Far as I know it also has the non-user serviceable battery.  I'll say it again, non-user serviceable batteries is just plain stupid. _____________________________ ENCOM 511 |
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Jedi |
I haven't been arguing the ACTUAL CONS of the system. Only (seemingly) petty ones. I used all caps and bold lettering because I had asked the question and addressed the issue before and then you came on saying the same thing! Dork was the only one who came back with an actual answer (thank you, Dork), which makes sense and I can't argue with. As I said, I'm not a hardcore gamer. I didn't buy the PS3 for games but for Blu-ray movies. I enjoy playing games, but I don't devote the majority of my time doing it, so it was hard for me to understand the attachment to some games on older systems with the exception of those with nostalgic value (Super Mario, Megaman, Pac-Man, Donkey Kong etc.). So I take back this not being a big deal. However, the only reason Sony abandoned backwards compatibility in its newer consoles is so they could lower prices. Apparently people didn't want to pay for the luxury of being able to play their old games on it. They didn't "remove it", they hadn't figured out how to incorporate it into the new controller design! There was a lawsuit involved, but it was finally settled and that's why we're getting those very controllers later this year! Sony's Phil Harrison has been quoted as saying, "I think [rumble] was a last generation feature; it's not a next-generation feature." However, that doesn't sound like he was actually speaking for Sony specifically because I've always read it was a lawsuit that kept the feature out of the controllers and this sounds like his own personal view. I dunno about that. I'll buy one and keep my old one for a friend who stops by and didn't bring his own. It's why I didn't buy a second controller when I purchased the system.
You sure whine alot. We get it! You'd rather purchase batteries over and over again! SHEESH! "I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!" |
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Slacker First Class |
No you don't get it. I would prefer a proper wired controller which was perfectly fine for many years. Please re-read the thread, I suggested a wired controller. This would insure no additional cost whatsoever, 2 years or X years later, no batteries at all. Get it? Some pencil pushing goof ball behind a desk somewhere decided it's more appropriate to throw perfectly good controllers in the trash when the batteries finally go. I'm sorry that is unacceptable to you and you can't admit it's a design flaw. Yes, keep the old controller for your buddy. Good idea, I didn't think about that, but he might miss the force feedback whilst you get to feel it.  I don't care about movies. It's a game console. I have a separate unit to watch DVD's.
They could not figure it out or there was a lawsuit? Which is it? lol It doesn't matter why it was removed. The fact of the matter is it was removed. I agree complaining about the looks of the unit is petty. I don't have an opinion about the looks. However, if someone does not agree with you they are accused of whining. How handy for you. However if something is going to fail, and eventually rechargeable batteries do, it's only a matter of time. It's going to cost me to replace it, well that's a design flaw. This message has been edited. Last edited by: MCP, _____________________________ ENCOM 511 |
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Jedi |
So why do you keep bringing up batteries? I suppose you'd rather have batteries if you had to choose, but it seems like a moot point to just whine about 'em not being changeable when your main problem is the cord. I only say "whining" because that's what it seems. You're upset about something you can't have and you keep repeating yourself. I consider that whining. It's a multi-media console (it does alot more than play games. I know that doesn't matter to some, but it's true nonetheless) and I don't watch DVDs, I watch Blu-ray movies (not the same thing).  So, it would've been smarter to wait 2 extra years? People are already comparing the PS3's Gen 1 games with the X-Box's newer ones! Because of that, the PS3 sales would've probably been even worse and HD might've (unfairly) won the war!  Wire-less controllers are here to stay. It's something you're going to have to get used to. Whether you're throwing money to the battery makers or to Sony themselves, your spending money in order to keep playing your games. It just depends on how often you want to run to the store, I suppose.I do agree, but I'm not sure if we have affordable technology with an infinite power source available yet. Actually, it was both. The company they were fighting with were the ones with the knowledge! I will admit, I am disappointed we have to keep looking in the future in order to see the REAL POTENTIAL of what this thing can do, but apparently I'm not the only one who can see this:
This message has been edited. Last edited by: Monkey_Boy, "I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!" |
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Slacker First Class |
No, I keep repeating it because you keep beating around the bush trying to avoid the obvious. You simply refuse to agree that it would of been better to allow the user to change the battery. Sure I can work around the issue if I was so inclined to purchase it. But it changes nothing, it's a design flaw in my opinion. Any product that has non-user serviceable batteries is a bad design to me. That's my opinion and I'm not about to change it. Can you at least agree it would of been better in retrospect to let the user change the battery or provided an old style wired controller without a battery? Will it kill you to accept that? This message has been edited. Last edited by: MCP, _____________________________ ENCOM 511 |
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Jedi |
I DID!
I kinda wish you guys got everything out that you wanted to say instead of changing your posts over and over (I'm especially talking to you MetalKid). It's hard to keep up and it's making it seem like I'm just ignoring your points. Unless that is your intention. If it is, then that's just messed up! I normally can't stand multiple posters, but in your case(s), I'll make an exception. "I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!" |
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Slacker First Class |
If you did I missed it. Sorry, some of your posts are edited to. I may of over looked it, again sorry. Least we agree. I edit the spelling mostly, but then while doing that re-wording happens sometimes. The downside of a forum and posting replies to fast. I may actually get a ps3, but it hinges on the games. Only if I run across a must have will I purchase it. As you already know I won't be 100% happy with the controller if I was to get one. I do hope they offer it without a controller, or package it with the newer one soon. I have to have the vibration option in the event I was to get one. There is one game in the works that might cause me to get a ps3. I don't want to have to replace a new controller right away. _____________________________ ENCOM 511 |
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Jedi |
I only edited them to respond to your edits! Right when I posted my response, I noticed you had made a few changes and I tried my best to incorporate them into my post before you came back. I understand. I was a newbie once, too, and I used to do the same thing. But I found it does screw up some arguements because people don't always go back and re-read an edited post. I'm a fast responder when I'm involved in a nice discussion with somebody around here. (Okay, even when the conversation isn't so nice as well.  ) I ain't got nuthin' better to do today. I'm not feeling well and stuck in the house!  At least you aren't as bad as MetalKid. He's changed his opening post from a rant to just "hate" to "love" to "maybe it will grow on me" and back to a rant. Good gravy! Make up your mind before you start a thread, Kid! Yeesh!  Understandable. I would've waited too, but I reeeeeally wanted a Blu-ray player and the PS3 is the cheapest (yet one of the best) players there is! Plus, there's this to look forward to. (I'm a major "Star Wars" fan! )"I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!" |
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Jedi |
I came into this thread because I was getting reports that you were being rude and had almost driven this poster away from the site. In the future, I would appreciate it if you could be more courteous. Your enthusiasm is getting in the way of your manners. |
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Jedi |
Actually, I'm not meaning to be a jerk about it. I'm confused as to why they won't post a reply. Instead of replying, they keep changing their original posts. It's annoying. I've made attempts to talk to them directly, but they continue to edit posts that are days old. A thread is supposed to be a discussion, but how can you discuss anything with someone who won't reply and keeps changing their mind?  Wait. Why are you getting reports? Are you an undercover moderator, Dork? "I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!" |
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Slacker First Class |
I'm not a newbie, way to old to be a newbie. lol Been using the net for years, since about, oh gosh before 1996. I generally edit them within some minutes and never do like the OP and radically alter a post like that. I agree that was not a wise thing to do and really confusing.
Most forums have a "preview" option. That really helps a lot. This forum seems to lack that feature unfortunately. Since I tend to keep stuff for a very long time, usually even after it's discontinued, I have a question. The cable that is used to recharge, is that a standard USB cable, such that a longer one can be purchased? I'm thinking it would be more cost effective to go that route than replace the controller down the road. It appears to be a standard USB cable, but I'm not exactly sure. I like to know such things before I buy. The odds are the game in the works that I like will blow my socks off. The ps2 version did and given the horse power of the ps3, I can't see the sequel being worse.  _____________________________ ENCOM 511 |
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Jedi |
It's far more than your response to the edits that's been a little less than polite in this thread. I realize you don't mean any harm, but just sticking to the posts in this thread, it sure as hell seems like you do. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dork, |
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Jedi |
I've noticed this in another forum I visit. It is a nice feature! Maybe we should start working on that, huh, guys? Yes it is... and it doesn't even have to say "Sony" on it! "I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!" |
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Know-It-All |
Monkey_Boy, i am sorry for changing old posts and the confusion. But, it's true, i am a newbie and don't quite have the hang of things. Please, cut me some slack. I will try to do better in the future.
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Jedi |
I think this is in response to me. I assumed he was new to forums because of his number of posts and edits. Sorry, 'bout that, MCP. I guess it's true what they say about people who make assumptions! "I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!" |
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Jedi |
The beauty of the Edit function. |
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Slacker First Class |
That's good to know. Thanks. _____________________________ ENCOM 511 |
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Jedi |
Honestly. No hard feelings. I also made the assumption you were new, which is why I finally called you out on it. I'm really not a venomous guy. I just don't respond well when I'm not understanding what's going on. It's cool if you're undecided or if you hate it. I only responded because your reasons didn't seem that big to me and I wanted you to clarify. After Dork hipped me to the fact that not everyone kept their PS2s, I understood why this was an issue. I just never considered trading in mine because it would barely put a dent the price of the PS3. (It's not as big of a difference as when I traded my PS1 and games in for a PS2.) Same thing with the controllers. I asked what the problem really was and it took MCP to set me straight on why it was an issue for him. I was only looking for responses. It's why I asked you to elaborate on why you had changed your post in the first place. You then gave me a single sentence that didn't tell me much about WHY you changed your mind. I'm not a mod. I don't make the rules and I ain't trying to enforce any. I was only pleading that you carried a readable discussion with the rest of us. I hadn't even read that you'd changed your opening post again until I read another post in another thread saying you had. No, I wasn't really talking to you directly, but you weren't really talking to me directly, either. It's no biggie and I promise to lay off. My apologies. HA! Now, let's get back on topic! I'll agree the PS3 has it's flaws and that I don't understand EVERYBODY'S problem with it, but I do respect them a little more thanks to this thread. I still don't think the specific reasons here are fantastic reasons to HATE the console, but to each his own. For me the positives far out-weigh the negatives. Being able to utilize Blu-ray technology into games is a fantastic addition! The worlds can be more expansive and vibrant then they can on DVD technology. The main problem we're having with the gaming industry right now, is that they are still making games according to the X-Box 360's specs and then transfering them to the PS3. An example? Assassin's Creed coulda been alot more expansive than it was if it had been made solely for the PS3. At least that's what my friends have been whining about! "I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!" |
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