Undisputed facts re the film and film makers.
For more go to the what the bleep forum and read my response to the filmmakers open letter to the media.

1. In addition to the films three directors, there were actors and others involved in the production who are long time "students" of Ramthas' School of enlightenment.

2. A disproportionate amount of time was given in voice and film to Ramtha, Dr. Joe dispenza, and Miceal Ledwith.

3. Dr Joe Dispenza and Miceal Ledwith are both long time students and "appointed teachers at Ramthas' school of enlightenment (RSE)

4. Dr Joe Dispenza (the one who creates his day) has gone to court and testified that his teacher (ramtha) has told him that terrible times are coming and that he needs to protect his family. He also invested over $10,000.00 in an infamous scam that infected RSE and was touted by Ramtha as a vehicle to gain fabulous wealth and many of the schools membership lost substantial sums of money. Some lost their entire life savings.
This is the person who teaches the brain science in RSE.

5.Miceal Ledwith a clergyman with a rather dubious past (see http://unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=36&si=770458&issue_id=7565) is the one chosen by the film makers to be the theological spokesman. He is also the theologian in residence of RSE.
He also has been marketing several products within the school and its followers. Guess that could not have been done to easily in the Catholic church.

6. The following persons in the film have all spoken at RSE and sold books there.

Fred Allen Wolf
Dr Candice Pert
Amit Gotswami
John Haglin
Joe Dispenza
Miceal Ledwith
and of course the big guy himself, Ramtha

7. One of the scientists who was in the film and had never appeared at the school is Dr David Albert Professor and Director of Philosophical Physics at Columbia university.
He has stated in several venues that his views were totally misrepresented in the film. He claims that in over 5 hours of interviews he explained to the film makers why their concept of how Quantum Physics works has virtually no support in the scientific community.
He even called in to a radio program the director was on to discuss this and was cut off. The host of the show said this was done because it was "negative"
so much for no good or bad, that is unless it is convienent.

8. To date, there has been no response as to where the information which lead to the story about the indians not being able to see the ships of Columbus originated from. There appears to be no evidence to support this claim. In addition, the film mentioned "clipper ships" which were not even in existence at that time. Perhaps that is why they couldn't see them.

There were many more, but I will leave them for others. If anyone has any information to refute any of the facts laid out here, I will be more then willing to retract them.

They are relevant because of the deliberateness on the part of the film makers to keep certain facts unknown (ironically, it is I making the unknown know) and misrepresent others.

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OK, first off, I moved this to Documentaries, even though it does have some well-known actors playing fictional roles. It just didn't seem to belong in the General Movie Discussion. I also clarified the topic by putting the title in the subject. Other than that, the entire post is intact. Since the only thing I know about the film is the weird ads in the newspaper and a cursory glance at Metacritic's accumulated reviews, I have nothing else to add right now. Anybody seen this and have an opinion?

I saw this movie and was quite dissapointed. It was recommended to me from friends. Their were some very good ideas in the movie. But they were put to waste. There were about fifty ideas for different movies going all together at once. It makes the movie boring and hard to follow. It also makes the ideas seem stupid and unrealistic. The directing, in my opinion, was horrible. The movie is unbelievably confusing and unenjoyable. I would not recommend it.

I don't want to take up a lot of space here, butif one wishes to see the film for a excellent example of conceled propaganda then by all means see it. Pay attention to the editing and when it shifts back and forth from some of the scientists to the Ramtha crew (who are unidentified in the film. For those interested, the film makers had sent an open letter to the media detailing why they thought the media was panning them. I have a response to their rather long (7page) letter they sent out on the "what the bleep do we know" web site forum http://66.201.42.16/viewcat.php3?catid=528&kbid=ionsikc under "my response to the film makers open letter."

My response was written within their letter. If you would like to see their letter uninterupted, go to salon.com search what the bleep and get a day pass to read their review . In their review is a link to the filmmakers letter.

I would like to hear from anyone if they have ever heard of filmmakers putting out a letter like that before.