Originally posted by Yay!: BTW, I'd like to know who gave this thread five checks. What the hell...? Was that you, Filmore?
Nope...but, since you brought it up, I gave it a five. This is awesome.
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There's one album that I had some hopes for this year that kinda flopped when I heard it, and that's Danielson's. Listened through it once and just didn't really like it. That's one I won't be listening to again.
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Yeah that Danielson record MASSIVELY disappointed me. I was expecting something more avant than pop. Oh well.
It's too bad Cam'Ron keeps putting out disappointing releases. He and the rest of Dipset could be so good if they just rhyme in a way that made a little more sense, while keeping their flow, and maybe get a little more, y'know, "conscious." Jay-Z conscious, not Common conscious.
Whatever happened to that Cam'Ron/Hova beef, by the way? That lasted a minute.
Originally posted by Filmore Mescalito Holmes: Red Hot Chili Peppers Stadium Arcadium
It's funny cuz it's true!! Funny how no one said that before you.
And its the only one out of that list I've listened to, knew would suck and, in fact, did suck. The first disc (where "Dani California" kicks it off) is enjoyable, whereas the the second disc is just a SLOG. What were they thinking?
Who here thinks Christina Agulera's "Back to Basics" is going to be mediocre to terrible?
Originally posted by Filmore Mescalito Holmes: Red Hot Chili Peppers Stadium Arcadium
It's funny cuz it's true!! Funny how no one said that before you. And its the only one out of that list I've listened to, knew would suck and, in fact, did suck. The first disc (where "Dani California" kicks it off) is enjoyable, whereas the the second disc is just a SLOG. What were they thinking?
What is Rick Rubin thinking?
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Hold on tight. We still have Metallica and Justin Timberlake to go. I mean, I love that man to death (Jew power! Beard power!) but if he's going to insist on pulling this shit through 2007, we're gonna have to take a break.
To be fair, I think producing the Dixie Chicks was pretty cool on his part (thinking about it, I'd be curious to know who that experience was stranger for, he or them), and there is a possibility that a former SLAYER producer can bring Metallica out of suckdom at least a little bit. The Justin Timberlake album will probably be "eh" at best, being overproduced (too many producers, Pro Tools tricks) in every way, and the singles will be great, of course.
You didn't read that wrong, he's done/doing all that for '06. Dude needs more money at his age to, y'know, buy more obscure black magik books and feed his pet boa constrictor rare pygmy mice from Ulan Baatur. Also to pay his New York rent.
I will not listen to the new 'Jeff Lynne (of ELO) produced' Tom Petty record. We all know what a Jeff Lynne produced album sounds like cause they all sound the same.
Hands down, the worst record producer of all time - Jeff Lynne. He puts his patented cheesey ELO sound on everything he records.
Originally posted by Marlon: I will not listen to the new 'Jeff Lynne (of ELO) produced' Tom Petty record. We all know what a Jeff Lynne produced album sounds like cause they all sound the same.
Hands down, the worst record producer of all time - Jeff Lynne. He puts his patented cheesey ELO sound on everything he records.
I definitely want to hear this album now. Tom Petty is the man and I love ELO. Jeff Lynne made George Harrison's final album quite nice. EDIT: Jeff Lynne also produced Petty's 1989 solo debut Full Moon Fever and the Heartbreakers' 1991 Into the Great Wide Open.
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I really can't stand anything that smells remotely of cheese. And Stylus, whose opinion I deeply value as it tells me what to avoid (anything they give a B+ or higher), once had a weekly feature praising ELO. And I don't like Tom Petty. And I generally avoid major label releases. So yeah, I won't be hearing the new Tom Petty. Unless my Dad buys it and plays it in the house or something. 'Cause then it'd be hard to avoid. Like sentence fragments. On a message board.
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I like ELO in small doses. Lynne takes the Beatlesy pop style and dresses it up well. I can think of at least a dozen ELO tracks that are great.
But I agree that he really puts a certain gloss on a record that makes it unmistakably Lynne-like.
I've heard about half the tracks from the new Petty record, though, and they sounded pretty good. It's not Full Moon Fever part two, but it's better than the last couple of Petty records.
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I've listened to about half the tracks off the new Petty album too. I like The Last DJ a whole lot more. Then again, I would.
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Originally posted by RavingLunatic: And Stylus, whose opinion I deeply value as it tells me what to avoid (anything they give a B+ or higher.
Amen! Didn't we recently talk about how great The Smiths were? Stylus ran an insufferable feature this week trashing The Smiths. It was snippy and smug and wrong.
I won't listen to the Pipette's album this year. I saw a music video or two, and that was more than enough to understand the entire premise and purpose of the band. Really, I only needed about twenty seconds to judge their entire career if not their lives.
If you have fun listening to the Pipettes, that's great. I can see how it can be fun for a little while. I prefer deeper music, preferably music that is deep and fun. The Pipettes will be forgotten by next year, unless Pitchfork has something to say about it!!
Originally posted by RavingLunatic: And Stylus, whose opinion I deeply value as it tells me what to avoid (anything they give a B+ or higher.
Amen! Didn't we recently talk about how great The Smiths were? Stylus ran an insufferable feature this week trashing The Smiths. It was snippy and smug and wrong.
I think the Smiths are an easy target, if you're trying to take shots at sacred cows, because of the cult that developed around them. It's a standard move in the 'alternative' presses to take on cult heroes and make sure everyone knows you're too cool to care about what everyone else worships reverently.
I'm not accusing Stylus, specifically, of doing that. I've not read the piece, but I could guess the motivation.
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Originally posted by Barbarian: I won't listen to the Pipette's album this year. I saw a music video or two, and that was more than enough to understand the entire premise and purpose of the band. Really, I only needed about twenty seconds to judge their entire career if not their lives.
If you have fun listening to the Pipettes, that's great. I can see how it can be fun for a little while. I prefer deeper music, preferably music that is deep and fun. The Pipettes will be forgotten by next year, unless Pitchfork has something to say about it!!
Yeah, I've got no intention of ever hearing anything from the Pipettes.
They're meant to be like the best parts from 60's girl groups. Well, if a band that was like the best parts of nu-metal came out I wouldn't check them out either.
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I've been giving them a big shot this year, but the whole twee ultra-jaunty/expiremental Pop sect - Animal Collective, Islands, Grizzly Bear, Danielson, Architecture in Helsinki - drive me batty.
One or two songs on each album is enjoyable, but I swear after too much exposure to these cutesy/clever wimps I feel like I need to go out on the street and punch out some random stranger just to get my testosterone levels back to an acceptable minimum...and I'm no brawling alpha male.
Here's hoping this sub-genre nose dives into oblivion in the very near future...but that's highly unlikely, given the worship Pitchfork typical reserves for these annoying bands.
Jay-Z drills a hole in my brain. Most other rap CDs, though, make hurts my head and I just feel stupid having listened.
The Streets though are basically something else. "A Grand Don't Come for Free" is like an electro/hip-hop/rock opera, and "Original Pirate Material" teeters on the edge of disaster and greatness. Outkast is OK, but I can live with just listening to say, BOB/Roses/Hey Ya/Way You Move/Ms. Jackson/So Fresh... And finally, the only other rapper whose albums I can listen to all the way through is Kanye West. College Dropout is pretty insane. I tried the MF Doom/Danger Mouse/Madvillain/Dizzee Rascal and wasn't really into it.
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Jay-Z drills a hole in my brain. Most other rap CDs, though, make hurts my head and I just feel stupid having listened.
The Streets though are basically something else. "A Grand Don't Come for Free" is like an electro/hip-hop/rock opera, and "Original Pirate Material" teeters on the edge of disaster and greatness. Outkast is OK, but I can live with just listening to say, BOB/Roses/Hey Ya/Way You Move/Ms. Jackson/So Fresh... And finally, the only other rapper whose albums I can listen to all the way through is Kanye West. College Dropout is pretty insane. I tried the MF Doom/Danger Mouse/Madvillain/Dizzee Rascal and wasn't really into it.
I think I LOVE every artist you listed, particularly Madvillain (and MF Doom) and The Streets, EXCEPT Kanye West. I understand that arrogance is commonplace in hip-hop/rap, but with him, it's taken to an entirely new level. It's quite a huge turn-off, no matter how good some of his songs are.
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