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Personally, I like the idea of giving each member of pool of points to distribute as they see fit. If one member wants to assign a single point to 19 albums and all the rest to the 20th because the member likes those 19 but really loves the 20th, so be it.

Realistically, though, I think we would need a very large pool of contributors (along the lines of the Village Voice) and it would likely lead to more arguments than a coherent, interesting list, so I guess I'm for repeating last year's method.

For the sake of your test run, RL, I'm nowhere near ready to post a year-end list, but if I were to grab ten discs I really like and assign them some numbers (based on 100 overall since I'm only ranking 10 here), it might look something like this:

The Hold Steady Boys and Girls in America 25
Gabriella Montero Piano Recital 15
Regina Spektor Begin to Hope 15
Buttercup Hot Love 10
Get Set Go Ordinary World 10
Avishai Cohen Continuo 10
Essex Green Cannibal Sea 5
Margo and the Nuclear So and So's The Dust of Retreat 5
Butch Walker The Rise and Fall...Butch Walker and the Let's Go Out Tonight's 5

Does that further obfuscate the issue well enough?

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Originally posted by LinnTate:

For the sake of your test run, RL, I'm nowhere near ready to post a year-end list, but if I were to grab ten discs I really like and assign them some numbers (based on 100 overall since I'm only ranking 10 here), it might look something like this:


Mathematically speaking, if you had 200 points to spread over a top 20, you'd have to use more than 100 for the top 10. Unless, of course, you gave exactly 10 to every album, which isn't the case here.

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Originally posted by LinnTate:
Butch Walker The Rise and Fall...Butch Walker and the Let's Go Out Tonight's 5

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I completely forgot about Butch Walker! Thank you for having this be one of ten you grabbed!
 
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Let's not get too fancy, here, folks.
 
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Hey, I'm going through my 2006 discs for my year end list and I'm wondering, what are the rules on including already released material? Delta 5 had a compilation cd come out earlier this year that I would like to include. Is that allowed? I know last year I, as well as some others, included Push Barman to Open Old Wounds by Belle & Sebastian, and there was nothing new on that. So?
 
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We pretty much let you include whatever you want, as long as it's not a reissue from more than a couple years ago or something. Basically, use your own rules. I personally wouldn't count something like Push Barman, 'cause that's all old material, some from a rather long time ago.
 
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Also, I'm gonna go ahead and use the points lists submitted so far along with my own and post the way that points will be distributed. Probably today or tomorrow.
 
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Solid. Thanks.
 
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A general rule is that "Best of" lists are meant to mean "Best NEW music" from that year. For me, this would mean that the songs comprising the album should all be new releases as of 2006. This rules out Live Albums which have old songs, re-releases of an album, re-releases compiling old, albums. But it WOULD INCLUDE compilations from different artists if all the songs were made by the artists for new release in 2006.
 
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I think its totally fair to include live records, especially if the show took place inside the year in question (i.e.: 2006).

Its my personal philosophy about live music that every time a band performs a song live, its essentially a new song.

Besides, it'd be a crime if I didn't include "Okononos" somewhere in my year-end list.
 
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Howard Johnson is right!

Rev-ruh!

Live albums should indeed count. I would have included the expanded edition of The Name of This Band Is Talking Heads—easily the best Talking Heads record ever—in 2004 if it didn't fall outside the guidelines.
 
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I would agree that live albums should count, although it's rare that a live album is that good to warrant making the list of very discriminating listeners, such as those who contribute to these forums.

In my personal opinion, a live album is much more credible when it captures one performance of a band, such as Cheap Trick at Budakon, rather than just being a collection of the best performances from a particular tour. But, that's just me...
 
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Last year I counted Wilco's Kicking Television on my best-of list, even if there was a grand total of one new song. Still, some of the songs really came alive when done live, and became whole new songs for me.


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Ok, so what about the new Beatles?
 
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Ok, so what about the new Beatles?


For what it's worth, we are counting that one on our official Metacritic high score list (assuming it gets 7 reviews eventually). We gave it some thought, and consider it to be the equivalent to all new songs.
 
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It's worth quite a lot receiving a reponse from one of the Overlords. Thank you.
 
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(PRG bows and kisses the feet of the Grand Overlord of Metacritic Music.)
 
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Originally posted by RavingLunatic:
(PRG bows and kisses the feet of the Grand Overlord of Metacritic Music.)


You left out the perfuming of the feet after the kissing Big Grin
 
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All right. I averaged out the values for each of the top 20 slots based on the 4 people who submitted values (including myself). All half-point values were rounded up:

1 - 27
2 - 24
3 - 20
4 - 18
5 - 16
6 - 14
7 - 13
8 - 12
9 - 10
10 - 8
11 - 8
12 - 7
13 - 6
14 - 5
15 - 5
16 - 3
17 - 3
18 - 2
19 - 1
20 - 1

It looks all right to me. If there are any objections, speak them now, or forever hold your peace.
 
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Sorry I didn't respond before, but
I figured I'd just muddy the waters. As it is, I'd say: keep the first five, but tweak the rest to:
6 - 15
7 - 14
8 - 13
9 - 12
10 - 11
11 - 10
12 - 9
13 - 8
14 - 7
15 - 6
16 - 5
17 - 4
18 - 3
19 - 2
20 - 1

That is all!


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Where did you get that nice sun tan?"
 
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