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Originally posted by Monkey_Boy:
...the "lovemaking" scene...

Yeah that was funny but boy is Rose McGowan dynamite.

I do agree! That woman especially looked good right there at the end during her monologue ! YOWZA !

Yeah, McGowan's gogo-dancing scene was just about the sexiest thing I've ever seen on the big screen.

ima huge Tarantino fan, and I did enjoy the movie. BUT, the dialogue between both groups of girls seemed almost annoying to me. I guess it was similar to the "I dont tip" in resevoir dogs, but that I atleast was entertained by. Good thing Planet Terror and the car crashes/chase made up for it. Perhaps I had too high of expectations

Id give it a strong B-

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Originally posted by FragileKidA:
***BEWARE, DO NOT READ THE FOLLOWING IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE AMAZING, GRINDHOUSE***

I don't know if you all know, but what happens at the end (everything they show after Kurt Russell gets out of the hospital from killing the first four girls) is what would have happened at the end of the movie, had it been shot chronologically. In other words, when Russell is getting beat up by the girls and the whole last car chase happens, that happened before he kills the first four girls. If you to notice, in the last half of the movie his huge scar in the middle of his face (subsequently from when Rosario Dawson's character kicks him with the heel of her boot--last shot) is missing. Thus, when he is talking to Rose McGowan's character--in the beginning of the movie--and she asks about the scar, he says something to the effect that he is embarrassed about it, well at then end of the movie that's where he got that scar from. So in the end, Russell doesn't die, the girls only brutally beat him up but don’t kill him and he goes on to kill the first four girls, gets away and is still being Stuntman Mike somewhere out there.

WRONG!!!!!! I just got back from watching it again AND Stuntman Mike has the scar in the second half AND he is definetly killed by Abby! You see his skull cave in! She also stomped the right side if his face & the scar is on the left. My friend pointed that out when it happened. Sooooo, the end of the movie IS the end of Stuntman Mike! I thought I would've noticed something that different about his face. It also seemed odd that he wouldn't at least have been arrested for what he had been doing, now that the girls had caught him. With all the havoc they caused on the highway, I'm sure the law was on its way!

Another thing, did you notice that they mentioned Jungle Julia in "Planet Terror"? It was on the radio just before Tammy (Stacy Ferguson) got out of her car to flag down help. They send a shout out in her remembrance, hinting at her eventual death in "Death Proof". Check it out when you go back!

I made my GF laugh herself silly when I did my "Thanksgiving" narrator voice in bed.

Excellent movie, can't wait to get it on dvd, and there wasn't enough of that hottie Mary Elizabeth Winstead on screen.

Oh but crazed, Rosario Dawson is much, much hotter.

There were quite a few beauties in Grindhouse. But I dreamt about Mary Elizabeth Winstead last night. She was even wearing that cheerleader outfit...for awhile.

Oooh you hound dog. That last scene when Ms. Dawson gets out of the car and her pants have rose up, as Borat would infamously say, "Nice! High Five!"

Why do you think that the second Kurt Russell is even Stuntman Mike? He never says what his name is, and he certainly acts like a different character. True, he's got a flippin' scar and a similar car, but hey, Harrison Ford always has a scar on his chin. Well, maybe not the strongest example, but it's an idea.

Whether it's the same character or not, there are different ways to take what happens. I'm more disappointed in not finding out what happened when they took the car back and tried to pick up Lee form "Dueling Banjos' Land.

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Originally posted by mark f:
Why do you think that the second Kurt Russell is even Stuntman Mike? He never says what his name is, and he certainly acts like a different character. True, he's got a flippin' scar and a similar car, but hey, Harrison Ford always has a scar on his chin. Well, maybe not the strongest example, but it's an idea.

This is a very interesting theory, indeed, Mark F.

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I'm more disappointed in not finding out what happened when they took the car back and tried to pick up Lee form "Dueling Banjos' Land.

Me, too ! I was really wanting to see the look on that guy's face when they drove his car back looking like that! I'm sure he made them buy it !

Yeah, you have to remember...you're watchin' a "grindhouse" movie. It might be from the Phillipines or Italy or whatever. They may have crammed two movies with the same actor into the same film, just to fuck with ya. I wouldn't put it past Tarantino. I think he even implied such a thing somewhere on the Net, but hell, no, I'm not promoting his BS! I'll promote his movies, but not the bs!

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Originally posted by mark f:
Why do you think that the second Kurt Russell is even Stuntman Mike? He never says what his name is, and he certainly acts like a different character. True, he's got a flippin' scar and a similar car, but hey, Harrison Ford always has a scar on his chin. Well, maybe not the strongest example, but it's an idea.

Maybe the two sets of four women are the same- just one set reborn as the other (and more death proof than the other). Perhaps one half of "Death Proof" is the reversed mirror version of the other. I dunno.

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Whether it's the same character or not, there are different ways to take what happens. I'm more disappointed in not finding out what happened when they took the car back and tried to pick up Lee form "Dueling Banjos' Land.

I definitely wanted to see more Lee! In some ways, the first set of gals seemed more apt to be killed. I mean that in a horror movie cliche way of determining who lives and who dies, as in slasher/horror films. They seemed less innocent and played more into Stuntman's hands. The second set of girls (or maybe they're the first if the time sequence is reversed) seemed more innocent than the first batch and therefore less likely to be killed. Plus, Lee was left behind. I dunno. I just wanted to see more Lee.

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Originally posted by mark f:
Why do you think that the second Kurt Russell is even Stuntman Mike? He never says what his name is, and he certainly acts like a different character. True, he's got a flippin' scar and a similar car, but hey, Harrison Ford always has a scar on his chin. Well, maybe not the strongest example, but it's an idea.

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Originally posted by crazed:
Maybe the two sets of four women are the same- just one set reborn as the other (and more death proof than the other). Perhaps one half of "Death Proof" is the reversed mirror version of the other. I dunno.

These are extremely interesting ideas, guys! Do you come up with these kinds of theories in most movies you watch or is it just for this one? Seems like it'd be fun watchin' a movie with both of ya.

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In some ways, the first set of gals seemed more apt to be killed. I mean that in a horror movie cliche way of determining who lives and who dies, as in slasher/horror films. They seemed less innocent and played more into Stuntman's hands. The second set of girls (or maybe they're the first if the time sequence is reversed) seemed more innocent than the first batch and therefore less likely to be killed.

This is very true, you heard that the second set drank the night before, but it was off camera. They were also drug free AND Abby (Rosario Dawson) wasn't having sex, so this helped to protect the other women in the car, at least that's what I think. I still stand by my assertion that Stuntman Mike was, indeed, killed by the second set of ladies. That was just gruesome when Abby's boot heel was buried into his face. It was similar to the mace to the face in "Braveheart", only from far away. You do see half his head cave-in from the impact. If he managed to survive, he, at the very least, had brain damage!

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I just wanted to see more Lee.

She did look great in this movie, huh? Soooo much better than she did in "Final Destination 3"!

I just learned there will be a direct-to-DVD release for "Machete"! Now that's what I'm talking about! It's too sad "Grindhouse" failed as bad as it did. For some reason, some people just didn't get it. They didn't understand the "missing reels" or the scratches in the film. Hopefully DVD sales will sky-rocket & let them make the sequel this movie so richly deserves. Tarantino had mentioned that he wanted to do a chop-socky, badly dubbed kung fu movie in the second. Now, that would be rich!

I figured I'd post my review for "Death Proof" in the original "Grindhouse" thread.

Well, I grabbed "Death Proof" yesterday, watched the special features last night, and just got through watching the extended & unrated cut, just now, today. I must say, I have no clue why so many people have a problem with this movie! It was great! The added lap dance scene was very nice, indeed. In fact, it was a tad too nice because my wife smacked me for lookin' too hard! Yes, there's alot more of Tarantino's dialouge, so for those of you that couldn't stand it before, will have a major problem with it now, but I laughed most of the time. Especially, with the second set of girls. They were just great! The car crash and chase were just beautiful, the best on film so far! The special features were okay, I guess. Did anyone else notice how Q.T. said "anedotes" instead of "anecdotes"? I immediatly started laughing and had to rewind it to find out what he was saying while my laughter had filled The Den ! While I'm very upset that it didn't include the fake trailers, I do love the movie and the trailer for "Planet Terror" only got me MORE excited to grab that one, too! Hopefully, they do end up releasing the theatrical version. I've owned 2 or 3 versions of other movies, so it's not like they would be the first to try to milk it for all it's worth. Besides, I'm more than willing to fork over as much cash as I can to pick up R.R.'s and Q.T.'s spirits to do a sequel.

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Originally posted by Monkey_Boy:
I must say, I have no clue why so many people have a problem with this movie!

Bearing in mind that I didn't see the original Grindhouse theatrical release, I thought it was just okay. I found the characters pretty entertaining, but the story just didn't go very far or deep. It was 20 minutes worth of story stretched out into 2 hours. I appreciate that Tarantino was trying to pay homage to 70s genre cinema, but he's really done that with just about everything film he's made, only much better. For an example of a chick revenge flick, Tarantino himself did it better with Kill Bill.

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Originally posted by eric to the g75: Newbie Moderator:
Bearing in mind that I didn't see the original Grindhouse theatrical release...

That's too bad. It really did cut to the chase (no pun originally intended ) a whole lot faster.

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I found the characters pretty entertaining, but the story just didn't go very far or deep.

I do believe that was the aim. These kinda movies weren't very deep. They weren't even very character driven. They were all about the action. I mean, look at the original "Gone in 60 Seconds". It's a thief stealing a buncha cars for like, 50 grand or something like that. The acting was sub-par and there really wasn't much of a story, but it's all about the chase! It is a pretty impressive one for as old as it is, but I was actually disappointed. At least with "Death Proof" the characters have motivation and the chase is one of the best I've seen. I really can't think of a movie with a better one... shot with 0 CGI.

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I appreciate that Tarantino was trying to pay homage to 70s genre cinema, but he's really done that with just about everything film he's made, only much better.

True. True. But Q.T. is a movie fan and from what I've read in most of these threads, fans usually wanna do their own version of their favorite films that weren't done as well as they'd hoped. He's just lucky enough to be able to do it!

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For an example of a chick revenge flick, Tarantino himself did it better with Kill Bill.

I absolutely, 100% agree! But, I haveta point out that comparing the 2 is like comparing apples and bananas. They are 2 distinct versions of their respective genres. "Kill Bill" was a serious samurai revenge movie with a touch of anime added for flavor. "Death Proof" was meant as a nostalgic look at those campy 70's films of yore.

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